Palestine Action demo 9 August

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To my amazement, last night I discovered that some posters on MN think that "radical Islam" means simply "Muslim" 😬

I wonder if this explains why so many are unconcerned about who might be pulling the strings behind the "peace" rallies that were first organised on 7 October? Do they know what radical Islam is, how powerful it is, that it is widely acknowledged as the greatest threat to UK national security, that its intentions are clearly stated, that it is 10000000% different than simply observing Muslim faith?

Palestine Action are planning a rally in central London on Saturday and hope to overwhelm the police presence. Is anyone concerned about this? I'm worried that the seeds of civil unrest are being sown, without it being entirely clear who is sowing them.

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/met-police-palestine-action-protest-b1241347.html

Because you aren't personally going to be a victim of Jewish terrorists are you? If you were living in Palestine getting attacked by Jewish extremists then you would be. www.npr.org/2024/11/13/nx-s1-5137001/violence-by-extremist-israeli-settlers-increases-in-the-occupied-west-bank

It is on SM more than any other time. I think you bring up some good points.

Yes, thank you for openly saying you think Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

According to numerous polls carried out in various European countries. Feel free to research them.

What bothers me is things like seeing "pro-Palestinian" marches in our capital city that were organised on 7 October 2023. Coincidence? Really? Seeing UK citizens who have never paid a moment's attention to ME politics suddenly "well informed" about a chaotic history that even a specialist historian has trouble unravelling. Noticing just the other night that a lot of posters on the CITME forum have absolutely no concept of what radical Islam is - how it has poisoned Gaza, how it seeks to destroy Israel, how it literally seeks global domination (I know this sounds bonkers! but there we are...)

It’s not bonkers at all, it’s the entirely logical conclusion of what is happening at the moment. We have 40,000 people on our terrorism watch list and yet we think it’s a great idea to let tens of thousands of unvetted men from high risk terror countries pour into the UK. We’ve had numerous terror attacks since 9/11 resulting in the deaths of over 100 people, 84 sharia courts operating without any resistance whatsoever, and people are in hiding for ‘religious blasphemy’.

The useful idiots cheering on the creation of another Sharia terrorist state are utterly nuts, and frankly only hold this opinion as they’re insulated by the British authorities and forces which are the only things standing between them and a terrifying new reality.

I honestly think the awful events in Gaza are something of a Trojan horse, to sneak Islamist ideas through off the back of the suffering.

It is all incredibly worrying and the useful idiots won’t wake up to it until it’s too late. If they think the UK is ‘far right’ they would be in for a treat under radical Islam.

I don't feel I'm going to be attacked by Jewish extremists in the UK.

What's wrong - I was impressed with that thought provoking, considered response, oozing with rebuttal.

Ah, right. So if I want to have my mind changed, that Israel is committing genocide, I need to go and find sources which prove European countries are in agreement. Shall we start with France and its relationship with Qatar?

I share your concerns.

Europe is vulnerable to a new kind of fascism that it doesn't recognise because it doesn't match up with the one we have experienced just about within living memory (my surviving parent was at school during WW2 and I was born shortly after it). We think we know what to look out for. This is utterly alien to Western culture.

Absolutely bang on about fascism. You normally have to be careful how you talk about it on here. Many times, I read views, which discuss racism, amongst other things, and I see exactly in their posts, what they are complaining about. The irrational fear of Reform is a prime example. I can't believe how some think Farage is a bigger threat than Islamic extremism. Hate the bloke, by all means, but fgs, get some perspective.

We saw the naivety unfolding the other night. If only they spent as much time waking up to the biggest threat we face, as they do looking for racism around every corner.

You normally have to be careful how you talk about it on here.

Well, I might have my posts deleted as some kind of hate speech, but that is not my intention. I have stressed repeatedly that I am not talking about the Muslim faith. Radical Islam is an utter perversion of the Muslim faith. In religious terms, it's the equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan being "Christian."

I suppose it's fear speech and I am sharing it in the hope that someone can set me straight by pointing to why none of this adds up. Unfortunately, to me, it does seem to add up.

It's like a magic trick where you're all looking the other way while something is switched without you noticing.

Thanks for letting us know about the protest. I'll be there 👍

Right on!

Hamas are evil, using Islam as a cover.

A bit late to this conversation, but I agree with you. Yes it is difficult to talk about the subject on MN, so one has to word things carefully. I believe the UK is sleepwalking into a very different future.

For me it does add up but I'm a Christian and have been following various 'end times' prophesies which of course will probably sound bonkers to most reading this, but I can see a lot of things starting to point in a certain direction, not to be too specific about it.

Interesting. What are these prophecies then?

It's like a magic trick where you're all looking the other way while something is switched without you noticing.

In the nicest way, this is just crazy talk. And I know you think I might just be saying it because I disagree with your stance on the genocide but it's not. I would tell you this even if I agreed with your views in general. You are going down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, rather than acknowledging that people have differing views.

She’s not crazy. I know exactly what she’s trying to say.

Biblical prophesies concerned with the end times Tribulation (a 7 year period just prior to the return of Christ), but things like the Gog Magog (or Ezekiel) war which likely has to precede the Tribulation, which is basically a country to the extreme north of Israel (possibly Russia or Turkey) that will attack along with several other nations (which one can figure out), but their army will be totally destroyed in the mountains of Israel by 'supernatural' means. Beyond that and into the Tribulation, there'll be a lot of disastrous events but there will be a one world government and a one world religion. Plenty to ponder on there.

I found this

1. Wars and Conflicts:

The Bible speaks of wars and rumors of wars in the end times, and some Christians see the conflicts in the Middle East, particularly those involving Israel, as part of this pattern.

Ezekiel 38 and 39 are often cited, describing a future war involving nations like Russia and Iran attacking Israel from the north and south.

These events are seen by some as leading to the final battle of Armageddon, where Jesus will defeat the forces of evil.

So you think the one world religion will be Islam? And the world will be run by Muslims?

Not exactly, no. No-one knows for certain what it will be exactly or how much resemblance to any current religion there will be. It will be a sort of 'perversion' of religion, it will be state-run, promoted by the government. It's described in Revelation as 'the great harlot', so a sort of prostitution of what religion and faith should be. What will happen though is that anyone not supporting this 'religion' will be killed.

So what happens to the Jewish people in Israel when the war happens according to Christian beliefs?

Most Jewish people don't believe that Jesus is a prophet so how do they fit into this scenario?

It all sounds very alien to me but thank you for taking the time to explain your beliefs.