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Conflict in the Middle East

Does the CITME forum negatively affect your mental health?

216 replies

SomeoneSomewheree · 04/08/2025 20:43

Personally, yes, it does.

To see people day in and day out try and justify a genocide does affect my mental health so I try to stay away at times.

I have also noticed it is the same handful of posters on both sides arguing, neither convincing the other.

I have unfortunately witnessed at times anti-semitic and anti-Palestinian comments, which are not pleasant to read.

Does it affect you? It is not always a pleasant place whatever your stance is on the conflict.

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Gloriia · 12/08/2025 14:43

'I find it incredibly depressing and infuriating'

Well I find it encouraging to see that so many don't lap up the crap that hamas spout. Many can see there is aid, the people stopping it are hamas themselves those terrorists who couldn't give a shit that their people suffer whilst they gorge on food and sell it at exorbitant proces.

I do not know one person irl who parrot the 'the IDF is doing a genocide' hysteria. Rather, yes the gazans are suffering so we can only hope the IDF get rid of the terrorists and left gazans live in peace.

'Free the hostages and get rid of hamas'. Stick that on the placards.

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 14:46

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 14:43

'I find it incredibly depressing and infuriating'

Well I find it encouraging to see that so many don't lap up the crap that hamas spout. Many can see there is aid, the people stopping it are hamas themselves those terrorists who couldn't give a shit that their people suffer whilst they gorge on food and sell it at exorbitant proces.

I do not know one person irl who parrot the 'the IDF is doing a genocide' hysteria. Rather, yes the gazans are suffering so we can only hope the IDF get rid of the terrorists and left gazans live in peace.

'Free the hostages and get rid of hamas'. Stick that on the placards.

I do not know a single person in real life who is in denial that the IDF are carrying out a genocide of the Palestinians.

This is no longer a isolated opinon - it is mainstream.

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SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 14:50

Everyday I see more and more companies and governments distancing and condemning the Israeli government for their genocidal actions in Gaza and the West Bank.

For example just today:

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/norway-sovereign-fund-expects-sell-more-israeli-stocks-over-gaza-west-bank-2025-08-12/

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SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 14:51

Reading real news and seeing the push back against the genocide in the real world does fill me with some hope.

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Gloriia · 12/08/2025 14:59

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 14:51

Reading real news and seeing the push back against the genocide in the real world does fill me with some hope.

Reading real news and seeing the push back against the stories from hamas in the real world fills me with some hope too.

Free the hostages, hamas surrender. We should all say it together!

Twiglets1 · 12/08/2025 15:01

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 14:59

Reading real news and seeing the push back against the stories from hamas in the real world fills me with some hope too.

Free the hostages, hamas surrender. We should all say it together!

Free the hostages, Hamas surrender!

OhMaria2 · 12/08/2025 15:04

dairydebris · 05/08/2025 08:00

Oh fgs.

If it harms your mental health why on earth do it at all?

Admittedly its often frustrating when others don't even try to understand where opposing points of view could come from. And it takes me away from more constructive things sometimes.

But damaging to mental health? Get off it then!

Can't unsee starving children with their skin burned off which is then followed by living amongst the ghouls that justify it.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:16

Tell you what disappoints me, the media. Sky news now 2 reporters wittering on about the bloke killed who was a terrorist and also worked for aljazeera. These silly reporters up there with Jeremy Bowen intelligence wise asking exasperated IDF spokespeople 'yes but how do you know he was a terrorist??' As if they're going to reveal all their intelligence, the stuff we've seen online seems pretty incriminating and that's without all the classified info we won't see.

News flash Sky reporters, they don't kill innocent journalists Confused.

GladioliGreen · 12/08/2025 15:35

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:16

Tell you what disappoints me, the media. Sky news now 2 reporters wittering on about the bloke killed who was a terrorist and also worked for aljazeera. These silly reporters up there with Jeremy Bowen intelligence wise asking exasperated IDF spokespeople 'yes but how do you know he was a terrorist??' As if they're going to reveal all their intelligence, the stuff we've seen online seems pretty incriminating and that's without all the classified info we won't see.

News flash Sky reporters, they don't kill innocent journalists Confused.

News flash Sky reporters, they don't kill innocent journalists.

Why did they kill Reuters journalist Issam Abdullah? I'm interested to hear what you think he was 'guilty' of?

https://cpj.org/special-reports/no-justice-for-journalists-targeted-by-israel-despite-strong-evidence-of-war-crime/

No justice for journalists targeted by Israel despite strong evidence of war crime - Committee to Protect Journalists

A year on, there is still no accountability following the October 13, 2023, targeted Israeli attack that killed Issam Abdallah and injured six journalists in southern Lebanon Less than a week into the Israel-Gaza war, at 6:02 p.m. on October 13, 2023,...

https://cpj.org/special-reports/no-justice-for-journalists-targeted-by-israel-despite-strong-evidence-of-war-crime/

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 15:36

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:16

Tell you what disappoints me, the media. Sky news now 2 reporters wittering on about the bloke killed who was a terrorist and also worked for aljazeera. These silly reporters up there with Jeremy Bowen intelligence wise asking exasperated IDF spokespeople 'yes but how do you know he was a terrorist??' As if they're going to reveal all their intelligence, the stuff we've seen online seems pretty incriminating and that's without all the classified info we won't see.

News flash Sky reporters, they don't kill innocent journalists Confused.

I find it disappointing when serious journalistic inquiry is dismissed as “silly.” Asking how anyone can be sure someone is a terrorist before accepting such a grave accusation is exactly what responsible reporters do- it’s not a sign of ignorance but of integrity.

Moreover, relying on unverified “online” content as proof is deeply problematic; social media can easily spread misinformation and propaganda. Blanket statements like “they don’t kill innocent journalists” are factually incorrect. Multiple independent investigations- including those by Amnesty International, the UN, and the Committee to Protect Journalists- have documented cases where Israeli military actions have killed journalists, sometimes with tragic consequences.

It’s crucial to uphold demands for transparency and accountability, especially in conflict zones where civilians and reporters alike face extreme risks. Dismissing calls for evidence and justice undermines not only journalism but also fundamental principles of human rights and international law.

Frankly, your points sound rather “silly” and aren’t persuading anyone.

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 15:43

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:16

Tell you what disappoints me, the media. Sky news now 2 reporters wittering on about the bloke killed who was a terrorist and also worked for aljazeera. These silly reporters up there with Jeremy Bowen intelligence wise asking exasperated IDF spokespeople 'yes but how do you know he was a terrorist??' As if they're going to reveal all their intelligence, the stuff we've seen online seems pretty incriminating and that's without all the classified info we won't see.

News flash Sky reporters, they don't kill innocent journalists Confused.

Silly reporters?

That's embarrassing.

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Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:46

'Asking how anyone can be sure someone is a terrorist before accepting such a grave accusation is exactly what responsible reporters do- it’s not a sign of ignorance but of integrity.'

Oh of course you ask and challenge but professionally not in a yeah but no but way.. It was cringeworthy to watch. Perhaps I need to try a different channel but then we have Jeremy Bowen on the bbc wanging on about not being able to film out of a plane window seemingly oblivious to the fact that is normal in areas of conflict as there will be classified military locations etc they wont want the bbc sharing globally . Obvious to everyone except Jez.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:47

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 15:43

Silly reporters?

That's embarrassing.

I know! One of our dc could've done a better job.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 15:53

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:46

'Asking how anyone can be sure someone is a terrorist before accepting such a grave accusation is exactly what responsible reporters do- it’s not a sign of ignorance but of integrity.'

Oh of course you ask and challenge but professionally not in a yeah but no but way.. It was cringeworthy to watch. Perhaps I need to try a different channel but then we have Jeremy Bowen on the bbc wanging on about not being able to film out of a plane window seemingly oblivious to the fact that is normal in areas of conflict as there will be classified military locations etc they wont want the bbc sharing globally . Obvious to everyone except Jez.

The way you write phrases like “wanging on” really undermines your own argument. Honestly, some of your posts are so poorly phrased and off-putting that I’ve wondered if you’re unintentionally making the pro-Israeli side look worse.

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 15:54

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:47

I know! One of our dc could've done a better job.

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You calling them silly is embarrassing. They do a fine job holding the genocidal IDF to account.

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Everexpanding · 12/08/2025 15:56

@Gloriia here is a link to a video of the man Israel murdered along with his colleagues, as you seem to be having trouble understanding that we are dealing with the deaths of humans here. Israeli claims of oh but Hamas are not reliable as has been repeatedly shown. They have killed close to two hundred journalists,

m.youtube.com/watch?v=vArcxT2kc18

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:56

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 15:54

You calling them silly is embarrassing. They do a fine job holding the genocidal IDF to account.

They really don't. The IDF spokesperson was very professional and patient it has to be said though.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:57

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 15:53

The way you write phrases like “wanging on” really undermines your own argument. Honestly, some of your posts are so poorly phrased and off-putting that I’ve wondered if you’re unintentionally making the pro-Israeli side look worse.

You know Boris I could critique your posting style but I won't because I'm not rude. You do you though.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:01

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:57

You know Boris I could critique your posting style but I won't because I'm not rude. You do you though.

That’s a nice change of tone, especially considering how rude you’ve been in past posts. Civility works both ways, doesn’t it?

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 12/08/2025 16:05

' HellsBalls · 05/08/2025 09:04

I think there would not be a CITME forum if it was another Muslim nation at war with the Gaza. '

summed up in one complete sentence

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 16:13

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:01

That’s a nice change of tone, especially considering how rude you’ve been in past posts. Civility works both ways, doesn’t it?

Boris, with respect you have said previously that you will not engage with me.
Why don't you stick to that? I've been nothing but patient and polite on here and other threads. Yes I uses childish terms like 'wanging' when talking about hapless UK reporters but that does not take away from how very seriously I view the awful situation in gaza.

Free the hostages. I think we can all agree on that.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:21

Stop purposely starving children and babies to death.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 16:23

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:21

Stop purposely starving children and babies to death.

Yes hamas need to help their people get the aid, I absolutely agree with you.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 17:01

For over five months, Israel has blocked the entry of humanitarian aid, including food and medicine, putting the lives of more than 2 million Palestinians at risk.

A child is dying in Gaza every 53 seconds.

Over half a million children are now suffering from acute malnutrition.

Israel controls all land crossings, airspace, and sea access to Gaza.

Aid has been blocked or severely limited at
Israeli checkpoints since early 2024.

The UN and all major aid organisations say the famine is entirely man-made.

Amnesty International: “Israel is deliberately starving Gaza”
Human Rights Watch: “Israel is using starvation as weapon of war”
Save the Children: “Israel's siege is starving the people of Gaza”
Doctors Without Borders: “Israel is destroying conditions of life in Gaza”

"There are no uninvolved in Gaza" -
Israeli rabbi Ronen Shaulov has called for every child in Gaza to be starved to death, saying that "not a trace can remain" of Gaza and there is no such thing as uninvolved civilians. Ronen Shaulov is popular in Israel with a large social media following.

Who controls the aid?
The UN does not control Gaza's border crossings.
Only Israel does.
Since Oct 2023, Israel has forced aid trucks to unload at the border and leave

Why doesn't the aid move inside Gaza?
Once unloaded, local trucks inside Gaza must get Israeli permits to pick up the aid.
Israel often denies or delays the permits
then asks, "Why isn't the UN picking up the aid?"

Even with permits, truck drivers risk being bombed or shot by Israeli forces.
This has happened repeatedly.

There, Israeli-backed armed gangs steal aid, beat, kidnap, or kill drivers.
Israel knows this - and still forces that route.

It's Israel controlling the borders, not Hamas. Aid is sitting in trucks because Israel is blocking it, often for weeks or months at a time. This has been confirmed by the UN, WHO, Amnesty, and multiple aid organisations on the ground.

Close to 20,000 children have already been killed, and those who survive are being slowly starved- half of all children under five are acutely malnourished. Infant formula is being blocked, along with food, medicine, and clean water. Babies are being born to starving mothers, in tents, with no incubators, no fuel, and no chance. Newborn babies have starved to death. This isn't just a humanitarian failure- it's the deliberate use of mass starvation as a weapon of war.

Blocking aid, bombing bakeries, attacking distribution points, and denying formula to babies is not "defeating Hamas." It's collective punishment and under international law, it is a war crime.

"IDE officers told Haaretz that the army does not allow the public in Israel or abroad to see footage of what takes place around the food distribution sites [...]
But lately, firing shells has just become standard practice. Every time we fire, there are casualties and deaths, and when someone asks why a shell is necessary, there's never a good answer I...]
Gaza doesn't interest anyone anymore ... It's become a place with its own set of rules. The loss of human life means nothing. It's not even an 'unfortunate incident, like they used to say."
"Earlier this week, soldiers from Division 252 opened fire at an intersection where civilians were waiting for aid trucks. A commander on the ground gave the order to fire directly at the center of the junction, resulting in the deaths of eight civilians, including teenagers [...]
When we asked why they opened fire, we were told it was an order from above and that the civilians had posed a threat to the troops. I can say with certainty that the people were not close to the forces and did not endanger them. It was pointless - they were just killed, for nothing. This thing called killing innocent people - it's been normalized."
"We open fire early in the morning if someone tries to get in line from a few hundred meters away, and sometimes we just charge at them from close range.
But there's no danger to the forces [...]
I'm not aware of a single instance of return fire. There's no enemy, no weapons [...]
He also said the activity in his area of service is referred to as
Operation Salted Fish - the name of the Israeli version of the children's game:
"Red light, green light"

“A very small part of the aid gets in here.
And even to get it, you live death a billion times every second from bombing and gunfire.
Every day, more than 50 people die here, and more than 1000 people are injured by bullets and shells while we try to get aid.
And if you do get this aid, there are armed gangs here who come and take what you managed to get by force, and it is very easy for them to shoot and beat you because these gangs are supported by Israel.
A short time ago, I was hit by a shrapnel from a shell. While I was trying to get flour, we were heavily shelled with artillery. Everyone who was there, if they were not martyred, was injured.
And the ambulances are forbidden from reaching there.”

Even if Hamas disappeared tomorrow, Israel's siege and aid blockade would still be in place unless it is lifted.

40,000 orphans
Highest number of child amputees.
98(?) children and counting dead from starvation.
No education for two years.
1 million children displaced and homeless.
49% want to die because of the conflict.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 12/08/2025 23:03

From Google:
( prob AI generated )

Several countries are currently facing severe food crises, with some experiencing famine-like conditions. According to recent reports, Haiti, South Sudan, Sudan, and the Occupied Palestinian Territories are among the most critical hunger hotspots. Additionally, Mali, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Chad are also experiencing severe food insecurity.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Haiti:
Faces a combination of political instability, natural disasters, and economic hardship, contributing to widespread hunger.

South Sudan:
Ongoing conflict and displacement have severely impacted food production and access, leading to widespread food shortages.

Sudan:
Conflict, displacement, and economic instability have created a dire humanitarian situation.

Occupied Palestinian Territories:
The ongoing conflict and restrictions on access to food and resources have led to a severe food crisis.

Mali:
Conflict and climate change are major drivers of food insecurity in Mali.

Syria:
The long-running conflict has devastated agricultural production and infrastructure, leading to widespread hunger.

Yemen:
The ongoing conflict and economic collapse have caused a severe humanitarian crisis, with millions facing starvation.

Afghanistan:
Drought, conflict, and economic instability have pushed millions into severe food insecurity.

Chad:
Drought, climate change, and conflict are major factors contributing to food insecurity in Chad.

How many of these countries are holding 50 hostages, 50 hostages held for 675 days...

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