What’s the alternative to Netanyahu’s government?

[PaxAeterna]

Perhaps somebody well versed in Israeli politics can explain. If there was an election who is most likely to gain power? Is there more moderate realistic alternative?

This isn’t something being discussed by media in the west at all.

No there wouldn't be 'no' posters, especially as I originally said pretty much, and not a conpletely no-go area. But Im sure you know as well as I do that there used to be lots of Jewish and Israeli posters who don't come here any more. Occasionally some pop back to explain.

I think very few were, or are "I'm for Israel,whatever they do" as you put it. The trouble is that is how its interpreted, particularly if you raise questions about the veracity of stories coming from sources that don't question the Hamas narrative, or you suggest that some empathy for the Israeli position might be helpful. Which is why some people just don't bother any more.

No they aren’t. There are many more vocal pro Palestinian people on these threads than pro Israel. If you don’t believe me, look at the thread titles. It’s very clear which side dominates these boards.

And what happens when any of us dares to push back is a pile on. You’ve been here long enough to know all this. Denying it doesn’t make it less real, the evidence is literally in writing for all to see.

It doesn’t directly answer OPs question but, in terms of explaining the mindset and views of Israelis, the fact that the country has compulsory military conscription is important.

(Except for the ultra-religious who are exempt from serving, but that’s a whole different thread…)

Everyone will have either served in the army, know people who have previously, or have friends and relatives currently conscripted. This will have a huge influence on how people will view issues of security, defence, etc.

Can you imagine the Israeli equivalent of Mumsnet if the parents of every 18 year old was about to send their child to serve 2 or 3 years in the army. What would the discussion be like if you knew your son or daughter could be deployed in Gaza? While also knowing that your country faces existential threats from surrounding hostile states and so having a strong military, including conscription, is the only option.

I do not really know anything about Israel's internal politics and who could be their next PM, but I wish for Israel to find a party which will stop arming groups in Gaza, for a start. How can Netanyahu survive being caught arming Gaza (via his "special" gangs), while bombing populated areas is beyond me. How is that Israel can send their young to fight in Gaza, while Israel's PM is giving weapons to gangs in Gaza and then go and say "What is wrong with that?"?. And nobody within Israel serms to be up in arms against this? There are many things to criticise negatively about Netanyahu and his government, but this, which is clearly the seed of future conflict, just under a different terrorist name, and it is happening under Israeli's noses. Yet Netanyahu stays. I really cannot get it.

I think the alternative is a disaster for Israeli independence. I think the present set up is unworkable with criminals behaving as they are. Netanyahu is not going to step down willingly. Then there is the problem of all those who have been active participants in the brutality returning to civilian life and the cost of rebuilding lives and presumably paying for the distraction in Gaza. The shadow of the last two years will be felt for generations.

How a new government, chosen democratically can affect negatively the independance of Israel?
It wll eventually happen, though better now than later. At some point Israel's policies and parties in power will change.