Arab world tells Hamas to lay down arms and end rule of Gaza

[Twiglets1]

Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt called for the Palestinian terror group to disband on Tuesday, the first time they have done so.

They joined 14 other countries, including Britain and France, in signing a statement that also condemned the Oct 7 terror attacks and told Hamas to give up power.

It is the first time Arab countries have condemned the group and demanded it play no part in the future governance of Palestine.

“In the context of ending the war in Gaza, Hamas must end its rule in Gaza and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority, with international engagement and support, in line with the objective of a sovereign and independent Palestinian State,” reads the declaration, which was produced after a conference at the United Nations.

By signing the statement, the Arab nations also demanded the release of all remaining Israeli hostages.

“Only by ending the war in Gaza, releasing all hostages, ending occupation, rejecting violence and terror, realising an independent, sovereign, and democratic Palestinian State, ending the occupation of all Arab territories and providing solid security guarantees for Israel and Palestine, can normal relations and coexistence among the region’s peoples and States be achieved,” it reads.

The text, which was also signed by Canada and other Western nations, also supports a two-state solution and the deployment of foreign forces to Gaza when the war ends.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/29/arab-world-tells-hamas-lay-down-arms-end-rule-gaza/

Indeed. I remember the 1970s. The Israelis offered Arafat pretty much everything he asked for, but no, the PLO went on its terrorist ways. Skyjacking, gunning down Israeli athletes …

Here yer go @PurpleChrayn

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62xnqlj11lo

This is not true. It's really irresponsible to contribute to the spread of disinformation.

You ommitted the bit about 'the release of all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails' and there is no mention of Hamas disarming.

Ignore this!

The Palestinian official familiar with the talks told the BBC that Hamas has signalled its readiness to hand over governance of Gaza

So one unnamed source, nothing official from Hamas.

Ah, I've remembered now. It wasn't actually Hamas offering to disarm, they were just offering to hand over the administration of Gaza. They proposed that they remain involved with "security arrangements".

"While Hamas leaders will not agree to leave Gaza or disarm, the terror group is prepared to cede governing control of the Strip to independent Palestinian technocrats and agree to a years-long truce with Israel that includes “security arrangements,” the senior Palestinian official claimed."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-ready-to-free-all-hostages-at-once-for-end-to-war-palestinian-official/amp/

What utter rubbish @Jujujudothe settlers being rightly removed from land and property which they have forcibly stolen is not ethnic cleansing! It has bugger all to do with them being Jewish either. They have broken international law which nobody is above. It doesn’t matter if they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu or any other religion. I suspect at least a percentage of the settlers are not Jewish.

If being deported back to Israel is so offensive then perhaps they should be given the choice to stay put. Pay hefty compensation to those Palestinians who have lost their homes and land and live under Palestinian rules.

Hahaha wow - where are you lot getting your information from? Deported to Israel? Some not Jewish? Stolen land (Hebron? Are you kidding). Jesus Christ.

Report in Times of Israel: In 1st, entire Arab League condemns Oct. 7, urges Hamas to disarm, at 2-state confab

Arab and Muslim countries, including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey, signed a declaration Tuesday condemning for the first time Hamas’s onslaught of October 7, 2023, and calling on the Palestinian terror group to release all the hostages it is holding, disarm and end its rule of Gaza, in a bid to end the devastating war in the Strip.

Seventeen countries, plus the 22-member Arab League and the entire European Union, threw their weight behind a seven-page text — obtained by The Times of Israel — agreed at a United Nations conference on reviving the two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians.

The “New York Declaration” sets out a phased plan to end the nearly eight-decade conflict and the ongoing war in Gaza. The plan would culminate with an independent, demilitarized Palestine living side by side peacefully with Israel, and their eventual integration into the wider Middle East region.

The declaration, spearheaded by France and Saudi Arabia, was signed by the Arab League, the EU, Egypt, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, United Kingdom, Canada, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Japan, Brazil, Mexico, Norway and Senegal.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-1st-entire-arab-league-condemns-oct-7-urges-hamas-to-disarm-at-2-state-solution-confab/

The seven page text which contains details of the phased plan is available to read on a link provided by the Times of Israel on their article about this news story, or here:

https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/uploads/2025/07/NV_High-Level-Conference-Outcome-document.pdf

Thankyou @Twiglets1

This seems a very good thing imo. Hostages returned and hostilities stopped. Ordinary citizens no longer being killed and starved. Living in relative safety with support to rebuild.
Why do I feel this is unlikely to happen or to lead to lasting peace?

This. Keir Starmer should take the lead from other Arab nations instead of France.

It feels like a good thing to me too.

But the problem is … Hamas & Israel government have to agree to it. Which seems unlikely at the moment.

France co hosted with Saudi. The UK is also part of this declaration.

It is countries coming together to find a path a peace. The article is poorly worded.

Clearly a lot more reliable source than yours! Perhaps you should step back and do some fact checking?

I very much doubt that you know more about this than I do, but go ahead with your narrative if it makes you feel noble!

You seem really surprised that other people have a different point of view. You know, I assume that the rest of the world views the settlers as being on occupied land?

It’s not a personal narrative by any means. This is very much the mainstream view outside of Israel. I understand you see this as a red line, I’m just questioning your surprise that there is another widely held opinion.

Facts aren’t opinion

The fact is that the land currently known as the West Bank is part of Palestinian territory not Israeli land. That is the view of the global community. The only way that Israel is ever going to live in peace with their neighbours is by removing the settlers.

But you don't think that's the only issue, surely? What can be done about the Palestinians who don't think Israel (Jewish people) should have any land at all?

Hamas need to stand down but they are a nihilistic death cult so it would be like asking the 9/11 terrorists to please land a plane safely. Hamas will fight to the very last Palestinian and then get their sorry was leadership out of they can (or accept martyrdom of they crave).

We also have the problem of getting the Palestianians to accept a peaceful government when many let's face it will want some sort of retribution. Objectively Hamas standing down before a ceasefire is a humiliating for Gaza and Hamas supporters who will see all the dearth and destruction for nothing. A two state solution seems a fever dream and the borders of a putative Palestinian state are forever shrinking. A peace seeking Gazan government will look to many of the pronPalestinian loons as a defeat and I don't know quite how they will sustain their campaign when all goes quiet. There are many who secretly harbour desires for an on going conflict in the Palestinian side as it has brought geopolitical gifts like the offer from Britian for recognition of Palestine as a a state.

Israelis aren't going to concede sovreignty and the West isn't going to attack Israel to enforce change of current territorial borders i.e. being in troops to remove settlers. This seems to be some sort of wet Dean of Jeremy Corbyn and isn't going to happen.

It will be again at the interests of any peace to start talking about historical theoretical borders and no one is going constant there. The Palestinians get what they get.

They have never offered to disband.