To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force

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Seriously, when even the Daily Express are even calling mass forced starvation and putting pictures like this on their front pages.

Surely the UN could act as a peacekeeping force and stop this insanity?

Its obscene.

I know your response will just be more undiluted negativity
Well I'm sorry that I fail to see much to be positive about at the moment I view it all with caution because we've been here before with Israel after the blockade but things got worse not better.

Called it.

Undiluted negativity no matter what Israel do - even when what they are doing is allowing aid to come in from other countries via air drops and lorries.

No I'm not saying it's enough but it's a start & it's ongoing. It's a change in policy which personally I welcome.

Given the scale of the crisis and how long the blockade has lasted (and how many civilians have died as a result), a start like this feels painfully slow and limited for those suffering on the ground.

It’s definitely a step forward, but there’s still a huge way to go before it feels like a real shift for the people in Gaza.

Chin up, @ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend -apparently it’s your attitude that’s the real issue here, not the mass displacement or starvation of 2 million people 🙃

It’s kind of wild to frame criticism of a government that’s tried to starve nearly 2 million people for four months as just having a “negative attitude.” 😅

No I'm not saying it's enough but it's a start & it's ongoing. It's a change in policy which personally I welcome.
But you said the same about the GHF and things got worse so I will continue to view things with caution no matter how much you criticise me for it.

Called it
Aren't you clever 🙄

Israel has deliberately starved the people of Gaza for over four months- are we really meant to applaud them for now ‘allowing’ in a trickle of aid?

Yes, it’s a step in the right direction. But let’s not forget: this is a man-made famine, and Israel has played a central role in creating and sustaining it.

not being able to bring themselves to say that the Israel government's new policy on aid is even a step in the right direction.
No that is not what I'm doing. It is too early to tell in my opinion whether it is a step in the right direction or not so I'll wait before I decide whether it is or not. Anyway didn't think you were a fan of personal attacks calling me boringly predictable is close to one. You can make your point without insulting me surely.

I’ve spent so much time on these threads I might save some time and write the replies now:

Deflect:
“Well if Hamas hadn’t started this in the first place, maybe none of this would have happened. Israel has the right to defend itself.”

Minimise:
“I don’t think Israel is deliberately starving people. It’s a war, aid access is always complicated. There’s blame on both sides.”

Tone policing:
“This kind of language- accusing an entire state of purposely starving people- isn’t helping the conversation. It just sounds like you’ve already made your mind up.”

The sidestep:
“Right, so Hamas firing rockets from hospitals doesn’t count, but Israel is suddenly to blame for everything. Got it.”

What about the Druze in Syria? Why is there so little attention paid to the horrific atrocities they are facing? There are deeply disturbing reports of Druze women being subjected to gang rape, having their tongues cut out, and verses from the Koran carved into their bodies before being discarded like nothing.

It is profoundly sad that so many people simply accept the narrative presented by mainstream media,. The public is being conditioned to think and feel only in certain prescribed directions. Out of a misguided sense of empathy, we are now importing individuals from regions with violent ideologies, all while social media is flooded with thread after thread focusing almost exclusively on Gaza.

As far as I see it, we should not be importing the world’s problems. Israel, for all its flaws, is the only nation in the region actively trying to protect its citizens from enemies who openly call for its destruction. Let’s not forget that Hamas is a designated terrorist organisation—one that not only takes Israeli hostages, but has also been reported to torture and rape Palestinian women who dare to live independently. Yet, at the same time, Israel continues to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza. What other nation has ever done that?

We are sleepwalking into danger, and we must wake up before it’s too late.

Bonus category:

Oversimplification:
”Hamas just needs to release the hostages.”

I can't understand why we are supposed to ignore actual aid workers, professionals who coordinate and distribute aid for a living who say that this is not enough, it will not stop people from suffering from malnutrion.

Their expertise was ignored when it came to the GHF and look what happened there, disaster is not a strong enough word to describe how that went. How many times are people supposed to ignore professionals and instead listen to Israel until we say enough is enough, just let the professionals do their jobs?

What’s happening to the Druze in Syria is horrific and deserves attention, empathy, and action. But bringing it up here, in a thread about Gaza, feels like a deflection rather than genuine concern. We can care about more than one injustice at a time.

Framing humanitarian concern as “misguided empathy” or blaming it on refugees with “violent ideologies” is also a dangerous generalisation.

Israel “providing humanitarian aid” after engineering the blockade that created the famine isn’t a moral gold star. It’s like locking someone in a basement, throwing them a piece of bread, and asking for praise.

No one is denying Hamas’s violence. But opposing mass collective punishment, enforced starvation, and decades of occupation isn’t “sleepwalking into danger”.

I wouldn't say things got worse after the GHF appeared seeing as the situation immediately before the GHF was a complete block on humanitarian aid.

I will say that the GHF has not been a success due to there not being enough aid distribution centres being built across Gaza, not enough aid and due to the sites not appearing safe (who exactly is responsible for all the shootings close to the sites is a matter of opinion but I think we can agree they are not safe places for civilians).

Still, it's hard to see how lorries full of aid coming into Gaza could be a bad thing or how not enough aid drops could be worse than no aid drops at all.

We could just as easily say the same about the arguments on the other side. The reality is, there are only so many talking points about this war and we've covered most of them multiple times which is why both sides must be getting deja vu with reading the same points too many times.

You can be pretty repetitive yourself, truth be told.

We certainly are sleepwalking into a dangerous situation. A destructive ideology is being imported—unchecked—from regions where women are subjected to appalling treatment. Meanwhile, media narratives are being manipulated to draw overwhelming attention to the crisis in Gaza, creating a climate of emotional distraction. It’s a classic diversion: "look over here, not over there"—a tactic that numbs public awareness and softens resistance to mass, often illegal, migration. This is not unprecedented. For example a similar trajectory unfolded in Lebanon in the 1960s through to the 90s and the consequences were catastrophic.

At last well done!

Not just this but they also need to surrender and stop pillaging and hoarding all the supplies.

I didn't call you "boringly predictable".

I said it was boringly predictable that you would not be able to bring yourself to say that the Israel government's new policy on aid is even a step in the right direction.

Hardly an insult is it? I've had much better ones thrown at me on here like I hate Palestinian people, I don't care about starving children and (my personal favourite) I lack humanity. Compared to that, what I said was practically a compliment.

Yeah, except myself and others have provided reliable evidence and credible sources backing up our points- which makes all the difference when discussions get repetitive.

Can you start your own thread then?

The challenges of migration and social cohesion are real and complex, but lumping entire groups together based on where they come from risks unfair generalisations and can deepen division rather than solve problems.

Chat GPT is pretty tedious to read tbh - I skim read most of your very long passages.

Interesting how the personal comments creep in when the argument starts to wobble.

It shows- you’ve missed most of the points I’ve raised.

Is it that much of a "personal comment" to suggest you use Chat GPT, which you have admitted yourself?

Pretty tame compared to the sort of personal comments I get where I get told I have no heart or humanity - now that's harsh!

Same. It's a c&p fest isn't it.

No, it’s totally relevant here thanks.