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Conflict in the Middle East

Anti-semitism in the UK

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Lolapusht · 13/07/2025 11:02

Published yesterday I believe.

Evidence of anti-Semitism in the UK

Not sure if that link will work so…

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1944147294917439912?s=61&t=_cKTNp_TyAyzDViEOCJDFQ

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JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 10:35

Hearing · 15/07/2025 10:33

This is why the international media needs to go inside.

I can understand why this could go terribly wromg based on excellent points made.

I also understand it's not sending a good message blocking it either.

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 15/07/2025 10:37

JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 09:56

I agree entirely. We need to read and absorb the experiences people are telling us about on here. It's getting no air time so how much worse is this than we could realise.

Look at the downplay of Oct 7th, look at history.

It makes me really uncomfortable watching people not see this unfold.

This.

Antisemitism must be addressed and dealt with urgently in the UK. The appalling rise started after Israel was attacked on October 7th. That is vile.

JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 10:40

Whatever is shown - I will never believe that an outfit like Hamas, did or do anything here out of a long-standing frustration about land, about freedom, about their people. It is coming from something that nothing at all will stop them wanting. Death to Jews, especially if they're in this Arabic/Islamic space.

If people accept that - Again, what's the suggested solution to this? A desire and will to obliterate Jews because they're Jews?

What will anything tell me that changes that? And what can be done in light of accepting that part?

JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 10:52

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 15/07/2025 10:37

This.

Antisemitism must be addressed and dealt with urgently in the UK. The appalling rise started after Israel was attacked on October 7th. That is vile.

I have seen a great deal of footage, just now at UCLA. A stand alone student screamed at by a Professor because he's stood there with an Israel flag whilst there's a protected encampment for all the Pro Palestine people. He's screamed at, he says, we feel unsafe. Ignored.

He says, how can this be genocide when the Palestine population is increasing rapidly since 1948. Screamed at, by the one of many Pro Palestine lecturers.

Yesterday I watched a brave Irish student raise an Israel flag inside the education building he was at. He was incredibly calm. Really articulated and intelligent. He was seized physically by a raging 60 something teacher and dragged out.

People are filming this on their phones. There will be so much happening.

It is putting a minority group in a really precarious position and no one cares because many are screaming and crying. I don't believe they are actually crying or screaming about dead Palestinian children. It's something else. Sue me.

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 11:36

This is what’s happening.
They had to start a private prosecution because the Met couldn’t decide if it was a crime for 4 months 🙄

Anti-semitism in the UK
Lolapusht · 15/07/2025 11:43

Can’t remember who it was who took pride in being loudly vocal, but it looks like al-Julani’s troops have entered Sadwayda, Syria and are starting to massacre the Druze.

Similar situation to the Alawite massacre.

Definitely something to protest about and try to stop.

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Hearing · 15/07/2025 11:48

You start the protest first and I’m sure others will join

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 11:49

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 11:36

This is what’s happening.
They had to start a private prosecution because the Met couldn’t decide if it was a crime for 4 months 🙄

Psychotic. What was the outcome of the prosecution?

JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 11:50

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 11:36

This is what’s happening.
They had to start a private prosecution because the Met couldn’t decide if it was a crime for 4 months 🙄

This has just epitomised every single point made about this.

The thug in this situation, he is emboldened and bolstered up. Why? He watches what all these people are doing here. He watches the Police. He watches the way things are handled very differently according to Political and especially religious position. There's no denying this is happening.

People watch, observe and absorb. Then emboldened, say things like this. With confidence.

And to further re enforce the confidence, we have the MET debating regards how to handle.

So this is all relevant to my gigantic issues that I can't hide. Why is one group ridiculously protected at the detriment of people doing nothing but wanting to exist?

Why are so many of the public emboldening this.

It is not about poor Palestinian people. I know this and I can't tell you why or prove it.

The reason I get passionate and then can use insults is because I actually find this all scary. That masses can get swept up in things and there's no empathy at all. I actually come at this with empathy for the people shitting themselves in the midst of it. But I am going to be received and presented as cruel, racist, all sorts.

This mass, collective alignment to Pro Palestine is scary to me. People blindly walk into all sorts and we have seen that happen before.

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 11:51

Lolapusht · 15/07/2025 11:43

Can’t remember who it was who took pride in being loudly vocal, but it looks like al-Julani’s troops have entered Sadwayda, Syria and are starting to massacre the Druze.

Similar situation to the Alawite massacre.

Definitely something to protest about and try to stop.

No Jews, no news?

JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 11:53

Hearing · 15/07/2025 11:48

You start the protest first and I’m sure others will join

I would be a bit scared you know. I'm not Jewish or Israeli. I'd be a tad scared.

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 11:53

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 11:49

Psychotic. What was the outcome of the prosecution?

CPS decided to take up the prosecution. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison.

Voxon · 15/07/2025 11:53

Lolapusht · 15/07/2025 11:43

Can’t remember who it was who took pride in being loudly vocal, but it looks like al-Julani’s troops have entered Sadwayda, Syria and are starting to massacre the Druze.

Similar situation to the Alawite massacre.

Definitely something to protest about and try to stop.

I'm reading Israel are jumping in both to defend the Druze and to secure the border - so wait for it, by tomorrow the story will be Israel trying to colonise Syria

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 12:02

@JoyDivision79 It’s absolutely shocking and under reported.

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 15/07/2025 12:02

Voxon · 15/07/2025 11:53

I'm reading Israel are jumping in both to defend the Druze and to secure the border - so wait for it, by tomorrow the story will be Israel trying to colonise Syria

Israel already illegally occupies the Golan heights.

The Syrian government is not "massacring the Druze", this is an outbreak of fighting between Druze and Bedouin groups:

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-30-dead-100-injured-in-clashes-between-armed-groups-in-southern-city-of-sweida-say-syrian-officials-13396334

As for Israeli forces they seem to be doing in Syria what they do in the West Bank, demolishing homes and harassing the local people:

https://snhr.org/blog/2025/06/21/condemning-the-israeli-occupation-forces-demolition-of-no-less-than-15-civilian-homes-following-ground-incursion-into-al-hamidiyah-quneitra-countryside/

This is despite Al Sharaa saying on several occasions that he does not wish to enter into any conflict with the Israeli state.

At least 30 dead and 100 injured as armed groups clash in Syria, officials say

Fighting in the city of Sweida between local military groups and tribes represents the latest escalation of sectarian violence in the region.

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-30-dead-100-injured-in-clashes-between-armed-groups-in-southern-city-of-sweida-say-syrian-officials-13396334

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 12:05

I wonder if anyone who is ‘pro Palestine’ can tell me why a British Jew would be so hated because of a war that has fuck all to do with him or indeed the ‘man’ who was convicted?

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 12:07

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 15/07/2025 12:02

Israel already illegally occupies the Golan heights.

The Syrian government is not "massacring the Druze", this is an outbreak of fighting between Druze and Bedouin groups:

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-30-dead-100-injured-in-clashes-between-armed-groups-in-southern-city-of-sweida-say-syrian-officials-13396334

As for Israeli forces they seem to be doing in Syria what they do in the West Bank, demolishing homes and harassing the local people:

https://snhr.org/blog/2025/06/21/condemning-the-israeli-occupation-forces-demolition-of-no-less-than-15-civilian-homes-following-ground-incursion-into-al-hamidiyah-quneitra-countryside/

This is despite Al Sharaa saying on several occasions that he does not wish to enter into any conflict with the Israeli state.

Your choice of words and reporting outlets for each article is a tad partisan.

Voxon · 15/07/2025 12:14

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 15/07/2025 12:02

Israel already illegally occupies the Golan heights.

The Syrian government is not "massacring the Druze", this is an outbreak of fighting between Druze and Bedouin groups:

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-30-dead-100-injured-in-clashes-between-armed-groups-in-southern-city-of-sweida-say-syrian-officials-13396334

As for Israeli forces they seem to be doing in Syria what they do in the West Bank, demolishing homes and harassing the local people:

https://snhr.org/blog/2025/06/21/condemning-the-israeli-occupation-forces-demolition-of-no-less-than-15-civilian-homes-following-ground-incursion-into-al-hamidiyah-quneitra-countryside/

This is despite Al Sharaa saying on several occasions that he does not wish to enter into any conflict with the Israeli state.

Yawn. Same old flipped narrative. What actually happened was:

From 1948 to 1967, Syrian forces used the Golan’s elevated terrain to shell Israeli communities in the Galilee below, killing civilians and making farming and daily life near-impossible. Children grew up in bomb shelters. Israel repeatedly appealed to the UN to intervene and stop the attacks - nothing was done.

In the 1967, Syria started heavily shelling Israeli towns from the Golan. Israel pushed Syrian forces off the heights in a defensive move to protect its northern border. And as usual this us what ANY COUNTRY WOULD DO.

Israel has the right—and the obligation—to protect its citizens. As pissed off as that fact makes people, it is still a fact. If the UN won't do anything, then they will protect themselves however necessary.

Lolapusht · 15/07/2025 12:24

JoyDivision79 · 15/07/2025 11:50

This has just epitomised every single point made about this.

The thug in this situation, he is emboldened and bolstered up. Why? He watches what all these people are doing here. He watches the Police. He watches the way things are handled very differently according to Political and especially religious position. There's no denying this is happening.

People watch, observe and absorb. Then emboldened, say things like this. With confidence.

And to further re enforce the confidence, we have the MET debating regards how to handle.

So this is all relevant to my gigantic issues that I can't hide. Why is one group ridiculously protected at the detriment of people doing nothing but wanting to exist?

Why are so many of the public emboldening this.

It is not about poor Palestinian people. I know this and I can't tell you why or prove it.

The reason I get passionate and then can use insults is because I actually find this all scary. That masses can get swept up in things and there's no empathy at all. I actually come at this with empathy for the people shitting themselves in the midst of it. But I am going to be received and presented as cruel, racist, all sorts.

This mass, collective alignment to Pro Palestine is scary to me. People blindly walk into all sorts and we have seen that happen before.

And while people blindly walk into being openly anti-Semitic, are they helping to actually free the Palestinian people?

It would make the all the hatred and insanity slightly more bearable if it was actually achieving something positive but it’s not. Has Bob Vylan chanting “d*ath to the IDF” stopped people dying in Gaza? Is the next flotilla heading to Gaza going to deliver aid and do anything other than provide material for SM posts? Will the Wailing Welshman stop the indoctrination of Jew hatred in children by giving us another heartfelt speech?

If you’re coming from the standpoint of Israel being the perpetual oppressor then you’re standing in the way of finding a solution. The solution to this crisis is not for Israel to get rid of all its guns. I don’t think anyone answered my “what does the day after look like” question. This is too big to be left to Israel & Palestine to sort out. They can’t. They’re too entrenched and too far into this to be able to do anything practical. Countries like Qatar need to take more responsibility for the part they’ve played. Hamas clearly listens to them on some occasions so why can’t they lead the way on bringing an end to the current war (again…follow the money and think about the reasons why some countries don’t want this war to end. Qatar could end this and stop Palestinians being killed but they haven’t. Instead they continue to host Hamas leaders in 5* hotels)?

While everyone is sitting around pointing the finger of blame at Israel, the parties who could effect change or who have contributed to the current state of Palestine life go unchallenged. Instead of accepting $$ from Gazans leaving, Egypt could have put a stop to the smuggling tunnels that have undoubtedly kept the conflict going. Instead of giving $billions to Hamas leaders, the UN could have made sure that Palestinian society was operating more fairly. Arab countries could have provided resources to improve life for Palestinians but they’ve left them to suffer at the hands of Hamas. Why does it serve them for that to be the case? These countries could play a massive part in transforming the entire region into one of peaceful existence and economic regeneration but they haven’t. They have chosen not to and I find it very frustrating that instead of questioning why that is the case a lot of people just start chanting “Globalise the Intifada”.

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PuttingOnTheKitsch · 15/07/2025 12:26

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 12:07

Your choice of words and reporting outlets for each article is a tad partisan.

Sky News is partisan now?!

The previous poster wrongly claimed the Syrian Government is massacring the Druze. I provided some facts on the ground.

Lolapusht · 15/07/2025 12:30

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 15/07/2025 12:02

Israel already illegally occupies the Golan heights.

The Syrian government is not "massacring the Druze", this is an outbreak of fighting between Druze and Bedouin groups:

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-30-dead-100-injured-in-clashes-between-armed-groups-in-southern-city-of-sweida-say-syrian-officials-13396334

As for Israeli forces they seem to be doing in Syria what they do in the West Bank, demolishing homes and harassing the local people:

https://snhr.org/blog/2025/06/21/condemning-the-israeli-occupation-forces-demolition-of-no-less-than-15-civilian-homes-following-ground-incursion-into-al-hamidiyah-quneitra-countryside/

This is despite Al Sharaa saying on several occasions that he does not wish to enter into any conflict with the Israeli state.

Did government forces massacre the Alawites?

Love your dismissive tone, btw.

Tbh, I generally use OSINT sources rather than MSM these days. Much better (if not more gruesome) to see contemporaneous evidence as it happens than reports quoting official sources.

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PuttingOnTheKitsch · 15/07/2025 12:32

Voxon · 15/07/2025 12:14

Yawn. Same old flipped narrative. What actually happened was:

From 1948 to 1967, Syrian forces used the Golan’s elevated terrain to shell Israeli communities in the Galilee below, killing civilians and making farming and daily life near-impossible. Children grew up in bomb shelters. Israel repeatedly appealed to the UN to intervene and stop the attacks - nothing was done.

In the 1967, Syria started heavily shelling Israeli towns from the Golan. Israel pushed Syrian forces off the heights in a defensive move to protect its northern border. And as usual this us what ANY COUNTRY WOULD DO.

Israel has the right—and the obligation—to protect its citizens. As pissed off as that fact makes people, it is still a fact. If the UN won't do anything, then they will protect themselves however necessary.

The annexation of the Golan is illegal, stating so is not a "flipped narrative". International law exists for a reason and applies to all parties. You can't just opt out of it bring saying countries can do whatever they like if they feel attacked.

www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-182862/

Lolapusht · 15/07/2025 12:32

@PuttingOnTheKitsch sorry, I may have missed it, but where were your “on the ground facts”?

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noblegiraffe · 15/07/2025 12:37

If you’re coming from the standpoint of Israel being the perpetual oppressor then you’re standing in the way of finding a solution.

You could see this mindset in the people who jumped to defend Iran of all counties, simply because Israel started bombing them. And claimed that Iran had done nothing to deserve it.

This mindset of Israel = baddie, anyone else opposed to Israel is therefore a goodie is utterly stupid and widely pervasive. It’s why we have seen people chanting support for the Houthis (sometimes concealed by references to Yemen) on the streets of England even though part of their slogan is ‘A curse upon Jews’. It’s why people perform contortions to ignore Hamas when they suggest that Israel should open its borders. It’s why people claim that criticism of Israel isn’t antisemitic when it can be, and evidently sometimes is. Because anti Israel has to equal goodie.

TinklySnail · 15/07/2025 12:37

@Voxon I have come to see very clearly that Islamic terrorist government supporters do not care about anything apart from crying victim.
You can see that by them all pleading “not guilty” to crimes they commit on camera.
The MSM, government and police are also complicit in this.
It’s definitely not a humanitarian thing to many of them, it’s a way to spread antisemitic propaganda under the guise of ‘won’t someone think of the children’ whilst simultaneously ignoring far worse war crimes committed by Hamas’ mates.
They only care because it’s Jew/Arab conflict not Arab on Arab conflict.

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