Anti-semitism in the UK

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Published yesterday I believe.

Evidence of anti-Semitism in the UK

Not sure if that link will work so…

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1944147294917439912?s=61&t=_cKTNp_TyAyzDViEOCJDFQ

Apologies Voxon. I read your post quite differently.

It makes it harder. In some cases perhaps impossible, we will never know. If there’s nothing to hide let independent journalists in then at least independent reporting can take place. ( Let’s not forget those actions were at first denied. ). This isn’t just about reporting on the actions of the IDF it’s also about Hamas and most importantly the civilians. More reporters might mean they are safer. At least people can see how they really are being treated. You try to hide that then you cant expect people to just believe you.

thank you for the you tube link, it's answered many questions.

I understand the concerns about Hamas and the security threats Israel faces — those fears are real and impact many lives every day. However, it’s important to look at the bigger picture with honesty and compassion.
First, the humanitarian situation in Gaza is dire. While some say there’s no starvation, millions of Gazans face severe hunger, malnutrition, lack of medical supplies, unsafe water, and crumbling infrastructure. This is documented by UN agencies, humanitarian organizations, and doctors who have recently returned from Gaza with heartbreaking stories of shortages and overwhelmed hospitals.
Aid convoys do exist, but they are frequently blocked or delayed at Israeli checkpoints. There have been distressing reports of Israeli civilians physically blocking aid trucks, sometimes even standing in front of them with their babies in slings, as a form of protest against aid reaching Gaza. This kind of action directly harms innocent families who depend on that aid.
The blockade severely restricts the entry of essential goods — food, medicine, fuel, and materials for rebuilding — causing a humanitarian crisis that is the result of policy choices, not just the result of distribution challenges within Gaza.
It’s also vital to acknowledge that Israel’s education system, media, and public narrative are tightly controlled. Israel does not have a free press in the way many Western democracies do. Military censorship, social pressures, and laws limit reporting on the realities inside Gaza. This restricts many Israeli citizens’ access to information about what’s happening to Palestinians, which in turn shapes public perception and limits empathy.
On the ground, medical professionals who have returned from Gaza paint a grim picture. Surgeons describe operating without adequate supplies, treating horrific injuries, and facing impossible choices daily. Their testimonies are a powerful reminder that civilians — women, children, the elderly — bear the brunt of this conflict.
While Hamas’ tactics, such as operating within civilian areas, complicate the situation and put civilians at risk, international humanitarian law clearly requires all parties to protect civilians and avoid collective punishment. The suffering of Gazans cannot be dismissed as simply the fault of one group.
Lastly, the cycle of violence harms everyone. Israeli civilians live under threat, yes, but Palestinian civilians endure blockades, bombing, and severe deprivation daily. Recognizing the humanity and suffering on both sides is essential if there is ever to be hope for peace.
We cannot forget that in the end, innocent families—on both sides—are paying the highest price.

If I saw footage and imagery of people killed and dead because the IDF have responded, it wouldn't change my position. I am confident that I won't see quite what October 7th displayed in terms of the 'place' that came from. That was not a ' save my people and their homeland '.

I have just watched a very insightful debate that highlights the reality that Hamas are responsible for the deaths of their own people, their Palestinian people. Hamas are the ones who can stop it all surely. They never will based on enough that I have seen. They don't give a shit about their people is my guess. The overview we have of them boasting about achieving an aim to destroy Jews. Come on. They are not freedom fighters.

It would never be safe for anyone within Israel to down tools and say let's be friends. Will I ever see anything that changes what I'm observing from my armchair? No. I don't believe it.

There's a tiny group swamped by Arabic, Islamic countries all around them. So it's never going to be safe based on as much as I have seen and observed so far.

Yes I understand I am detached emotionally from one part of this and their suffering.

A good analogy was made that the Nazis were ultimately entirely responsible for the death of innocent Germans. Comparatively, Hamas are responsible for the deaths of their people. I can see the validity in this.

So the solution ?

https://mailchi.mp/antisemitism/ofcom-investigating-after-bbc-claims-nothing-to-see-here?e=98bf4d3edf

Ofcom investigating after BBC claims ‘nothing to see here’
The BBC has published its long-awaited report into its decision to broadcast and then take down a documentary purportedly about children’s lives in Gaza. The film was removed from iPlayer after it was revealed that its thirteen-year-old narrator was the son of a senior Hamas official.

In February, the BBC apologised after an interim report identified “serious flaws” in the making of Gaza: How to Survive a War Zone, which was made for the BBC by production company Hoyo Films.

After the revelation of the identity of the narrator by researcher David Collier, Campaign Against Antisemitism organised two protests at Broadcasting House, where we called for the BBC to stop whitewashing terrorism and stop serving as spokespeople for Hamas. We also launched a campaign across national newspapers, calling for the suspension of the licence fee, pending an independent investigation. Our petition making that demand has received tens of thousands of signatures.

This new report, which sheds little additional light, has been led by Peter Johnston, the BBC’s Director of Editorial Complaints and Reviews, which is reportedly independent of BBC News and reports directly to Director General Tim Davie.

We’ve waited months for this report, only for the BBC to try to bury it under Greg Wallace’s professional corpse. Even so, the report says nothing we didn’t already know: paying licence fee money to a Hamas family was bad. The report yields no new insight, and almost reads like it’s trying to exonerate the BBC. The recommendations are frankly insulting. The only one with any merit – which isn’t even in the final list – is to consider introducing more accurate translations of Arabic curses against Jews, which the BBC has been wilfully mistranslating for decades.

The BBC is a place where bias is so ingrained that something like this could happen in the first place.This report fails to grapple with that issue in any way. We expected that from an internal BBC report, which is why we have called from the start for a thorough external investigation into bias in the BBC’s Middle East coverage and a suspension of the licence fee until that happens.

Now, Ofcom has announced that it is opening its own investigation, saying: “Having examined the BBC's findings, we are launching an investigation under our rule which states that factual programmes must not materially mislead the audience.”

But this is about more than just this Gaza ‘documentary’. From Glastonbury to Gary Lineker, the BBC has disgraced itself again and again.

If the BBC were an accountable organisation, senior executives would be scrambling to save their jobs. Instead, it’s the usual weasel pledge to ‘update some guidelines’. This is appalling. Under Director General Tim Davie the BBC has gone from national treasure to national embarrassment. He needs to go.

We are in discussion with the police about taking Britain’s March Against Antisemitism to Broadcasting House on 7th September, because we cannot tackle antisemitism in Britain until we tackle the rot at the BBC.

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Nothing wrong with the Palestinian stickers. Palestinians exist.

You clearly very good at being loudly vocal.

Well done!

You totally ignored my initial query about Mizrachi Jews whose families were forced out of Arab countries might feel about a return to Arab control. Diverting into discrimination against them by the Israeli state was a diversion from that (I know it exists, BTW, but I'm seeing a Mizrachi friend of mine in a few days, so I'll investigate further).

At no point have I said Palestinians should not have statehood. I have pointed out why it hasn't happened (and at the time also observing that some Palestinians have Israeli citizenship).

And you have also sidestepped my point that this thread was started to discuss antisemitism in the UK and its upsurge post 7/10. The conclusion that I draw from this thread is that a lot of people, while willing to say 'I obviously condemn all antisemitism', are not prepared to go further in any direction other than 'but look at Gaza!'

@Hotchocolatebuns You never did answer either of these questions. They weren't rhetorical.

Which part of the sticker was 'evil'?

All of it. It did say Palestine after all. Damn those evil Palestinians.

What a completely ridiculous post. This woman has described her children being spat at for being Jewish, and her being excluded from work opportunities and you're judging her for immigrating to israel?

You say yourself you disapprove of America. You do realise almost all Americans support America, irrespective of their agreement with policies? Or do you currently require all Americans to also denounce their country?

Do you require all Chinese? All Russians? All Palestinians? Anyone else required to do this?

@veiledsentiments are you going to explain why you accused me of hate speech, which is a pretty fucking serious accusation, or are you going to retract it?

@beachcitygirl
The list of antisemitic abuse @PurpleChrayn has experienced ( and the long and terrible history of anti semitism in many countries across the world) should explain why @PurpleChrayn and many Jewish people feel so strongly about the existence of Israel - the one Jewish state in the world.
It does seem to me that you do not care about the safety of Jewish people- whether here in the UK or the security of Israel as a nation .

I have no solution. My understanding and skills in this element are very limited.

I do believe that I may actually know more about the situation than many people out protesting. That is a large part of my focus and why I often come back to that point.

I will not be out there doing that at this time. Not unless I am absolutely up to speed on every part. This is a big issue for me. It's the wider issue of these people who are interviewed in their plenty and don't understand what they are saying. The message that sends and any other problems it enables.

Do you have an idea in your mind regards a solution that is workable?

I am not of the belief that if the IDF downed arms and did nothing at all, it would be over. It would never end imo simply because Jewish people are there existing.

I have seen lots of Jews say that they did not give Israel much thought prior to October 7th but with the increase in antisemitism they have started to really appreciate the importance of a ‘homeland’ for Jews that they can escape to when the danger posed by antisemitism becomes too great. And before anyone suggests that’s an overreaction perhaps they should consider the circumstances of the founding of Israel and before that the long history of Jews being expelled from countries, including England.

I agree entirely. We need to read and absorb the experiences people are telling us about on here. It's getting no air time so how much worse is this than we could realise.

Look at the downplay of Oct 7th, look at history.

It makes me really uncomfortable watching people not see this unfold.

“I do believe that I may actually know more about the situation than many people out protesting”

You previously stated “I am not actively seeking out evidence and examples to show me what's happening to the Palestinian people” so I don’t think that’s true.

My statement is very general and I'm not quantifying it because I can't.

I am not suggesting this applies to people here debating.

When I say this, what I am immediately thinking about are the hours of footage I have watched of people who I see don't understand basic elements whilst they chant. They don't understand ' river to the sea', they don't understand the limitations of a suggested solution ( most never have one), they don't ever reflect on anything at all above Free Palestine, love and peace. Not one thing at all has moved my position reading this thread where people know much more than these out there with flags. ( I wish I could quantify it in terms of who is clueless - I can't. I can see very clearly people do things they fine understand and that's getting out of control.

I do believe that people in Palestine are suffering immensely. And the thing that is really unsettling here- this isn't changing my position.

When I see comparisons like Oct 7th I'd feel different.

I am interested to know how war crimes would be addressed? How ? Who determines this,based on what evidence? What can be done? I am open to that because that's crossing over if it's happening as said. There are counter points saying that a deliberate famine isn't actually what's happening.

I am struggling to trust these sources.

This is why the international media needs to go inside.