Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Because Hamas are Islamic zealots and Islamic zealots are more of a threat to home turf than anything Jewish 🤷‍♀️

Why is conflict in NI between Catholics and Protestants the fault of Israel?

They obviously do still have problems in NI but just because Kneecap are Irish that does not give them a "free card" to incite violence.

Any venue still platforming these vile artists need boycotting.

No one said it was the fault of Israel.

I’m simply debuting your comment which was denying the experiences of catholics in the UK and then minimising it because it only happened in NI.

From reading the thread it seems like you were the one to bring kneecap into it even though the topic wasn’t about them anyway and now you’re asking what they have to do with the conversation?

Much feeling sorry for yourself about things that might happen, no feeling sorry for the tens of thousands of Palestinian children who have already been slaughtered.

@Hadtodoanotherchange
I'm not Jewish but this is exactly what I feel.
I can see it happening around me in my own life.
I just keep thinking of Jewish teenagers at some secondary schools/ unis here in the UK; I can imagine it must be an isolating experience to say the least.
In my opinion I would feel extremely concerned if I were Jewish & had children in the UK (I'm really sorry to say).

Well yes NI is in the UK, generally.

Irish Catholics who live in a place where 'All Taigs will be crucified' is painted are not victims of death threats, they are 'little Irish lads being picked on'. Who exactly are the victims then? Would you be as dismissive of Jews who live in an area where 'death to Jews' was spray painted, insist that they aren't victims or do you keep that especially for Irish people in the UK?

Because the Jews are to blame to everything and have been for the last 2 thousand years. That's why they've been hounded, persecuted and gassed.

I am so angry at seeing responses on X and FB applauding kneecap and Vylan each time this happens it makes me even more certain this is anti-Jewish rhetoric. I’ve seen musicians I follow ) and they are older men ‘left’ leaning. I’ve just seen one man, someone who’s always calling other men ‘gammon’, threatening violence on in the streets of London if Vylan is arrested. These men are salivating over this, I’m a socialist and I’m bitterly disappointed in their views. I condemn the IDF soldiers putting names in bombs and I condem Hamas for putting their HQ and weapons in civilian settings. I am sickened to think people I like and have admired have become so rabid over the Middle East that they will allow a culture to flourish where women and children (and men) have become too scared to say they are Jewish in the UK. We were a better country than this.

Absolutely. And agree with @ginasevern

They’re also the same dickheads who lined J K Rowling up with Putin and Musk. Morons the lot of them.

@Zombiefluff I don't think it was your intention but you are literally making my point for me!
Why should I as a British Jew have to be accountable for Netanyahu et al? Why do I have to endorse or condemn resolutely?tTo conflate being Jewish with being responsible for all Israel Gov actions is just another veiled form of anti semitism now widely countenance as anti zionist views!
I do not know what religion or political persuasion you may or may not hold but I wouldn't expect you to stand-by, explain or answer for all the decisions of whatever governing or religious majority of the country you live in!

and hear you are putting words in my mouth? Have you bothered to ask? At any point in my post did I say I don't feel sorry for Palestinian people?? I can hold more than one belief at the same time. I wish the same could be said for so many others commenting!!

It's a very specific part of the UK and I think you were being disingenuous to allow people to think you were referring to the UK generally.

You can keep repeating yourself forever but Kneecap aren't the victims in this scenario. Just because they came from a troubled area does not absolve them of any responsibility.

They aren't even claiming victimhood for themselves, you are!

Why should I as a British Jew have to be accountable for Netanyahu et al?

Where did I say you were responsible?
Or even suggest it?

I do think people who claim support for Israel while showing no criticism for the actions of the IDF are responsible though.

To conflate being Jewish with being responsible for all Israel Gov actions is just another veiled form of anti semitism

I haven’t done that.

I have no idea how you can say this. Loads of us who are broadly pro Israel are very critical of the Israeli government in various ways and say so often enough But there is very little space for a discussion in good faith because we just spend so much time correcting egregious lies, hyperbole and propaganda and pushing back on open and thinly disguised racism. If someone istalking BS I can criticise it. I don't have to accompany it with chapter and verse on my views of Netanyahu to make my criticism or correction valid. What is hilarious is when people claim to know what I think because I have expressed some support for Israel against the genocidal cult that is trying to destroy it.

I do think people who claim support for Israel while showing no criticism for the actions of the IDF are responsible though.

Responsible for what exactly?

This is just open racism.

damned if we do and damned if we don't! 🤷🏻‍♀️
I wouldn't dream of telling a Black person that what they are experiencing isn't racist if they told me it was but as a British Jew, I'm told that if I say something is antisemitic I'm conflating it with anti zionism automatically

A lot of forced teaming and exploitation of other grievance is going on, it's sinister and familiar.

Yeah a very specific part that the rest of the UK doesn't give a shit about. A part where 'All Taigs will be crucified' is a common refrain but gets no headlines, no comment from Starmer whose schedule is so empty he can comment on a music festivals line up, no empathy for those victims, in fact they aren't even seen as victims at all while the same people howl with indignation about 'death' to a foreign military. So much for looking after UK citizens first, it's fucked up that people care more about Israels military than they do their own people.

The Met have absolved them of all responsibility, they are not charged with anything.

For what actions of who they support.

It’s quite literally nothing like racism.

It’s just reality that if you constantly tell people that being critical of the actions of the Israeli state is antisemitism they will assume you are saying the Israeli state speaks for all Jewish people.
Otherwise how can criticising the actions of a state be deemed as antisemitic?