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Conflict in the Middle East

Protesters in London - stop bombing Iran?????

418 replies

mids2019 · 21/06/2025 15:27

Is this the same Iran was enriching uranium for the express purpose of building a nuclear bomb?

Is this the same Iran that was plotting a terrorist attack on a British base in Cyprus?

Is this the same Iran that send missiles against hospitals?

The same Iran which actually has a lot going people in Iran hoping the bombing of military facilities can somehow dethrone a hated Islamist regime?

Wtaf?

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Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 22:55

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Run along with your foul mouth. You don't even know what zionism means, apart from what you have been brainwashed with.

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 22:57

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 22:25

Script? I doubt the Jewish people, who have to put up with virtuous hand wringing got a copy of the script. What's this latest round of naivety going to achieve?

Weaponizing anti semitism to shut down a conversation is so wrong.

No one mentioned Jewish people.

The discussion is about stopping Netanyahu bombing Iran based on his assertion that they are building a nuclear weapons (which he has been saying for about 30 years now but none of which happened) despite the fact that Israel have secret nuclear weapons themselves.

BibiSuzanne · 21/06/2025 22:59

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 22:55

Run along with your foul mouth. You don't even know what zionism means, apart from what you have been brainwashed with.

😂😂😂😂 well done. Another item on the script. I don’t know what Zionism means. 😂😂😂
And I’m brainwashed??? By whom? 😂😂😂
And yes, I am foul mouthed. But that’s what frustration at the ignorance, arrogance and lies does to me.

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:00

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 22:57

Weaponizing anti semitism to shut down a conversation is so wrong.

No one mentioned Jewish people.

The discussion is about stopping Netanyahu bombing Iran based on his assertion that they are building a nuclear weapons (which he has been saying for about 30 years now but none of which happened) despite the fact that Israel have secret nuclear weapons themselves.

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Antisemitism is real. End of.

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:01

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:00

Antisemitism is real. End of.

It absolutely is.

Holding Israel accountable for their actions the same as any other government is not anti semitism.

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:01

BibiSuzanne · 21/06/2025 22:59

😂😂😂😂 well done. Another item on the script. I don’t know what Zionism means. 😂😂😂
And I’m brainwashed??? By whom? 😂😂😂
And yes, I am foul mouthed. But that’s what frustration at the ignorance, arrogance and lies does to me.

Stick to watching Kneecap and I will continue supporting the oppressed from medieval regimes.

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:04

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:01

It absolutely is.

Holding Israel accountable for their actions the same as any other government is not anti semitism.

I wonder then how you hold Muslims accountable for slaughtering other Muslims. That's not edgy enough for you, is it.

BibiSuzanne · 21/06/2025 23:05

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Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:06

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:04

I wonder then how you hold Muslims accountable for slaughtering other Muslims. That's not edgy enough for you, is it.

???
I haven't a clue what you are talking about?

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:06

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Nite. It's been a long day.

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:07

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:06

???
I haven't a clue what you are talking about?

Therein lies the problem.

YourOnMute · 21/06/2025 23:07

sunnydaysfillmewithpeace · 21/06/2025 17:46

Wonder if the people on the Iran march realise that Iran is a massive backer of Russia in Putin’s war in Ukraine. I’d really laugh if I saw some Ukrainian flags being waved at the march - it really wouldn’t surprise me.

Well Trump took missile shields from Ukraine to give to Israel so...it really wouldn't surprise me.

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:08

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:07

Therein lies the problem.

Could you explain what the post meant to me please?

PaxAeterna · 21/06/2025 23:11

Jumpupjumphigh · 21/06/2025 17:16

But arguing against the wisdom of the UK getting directly involved is not "supporting the Iranian regime".

Unless you think there can only be two types of governments in the world: those we actively support and those we go to war against.

Exactly.

The latest Uk poll has very little support for Iran and lots of support for backing neither.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/international/survey-results/daily/2025/06/13/0d5a9/3

In the event of a full-scale war between Israel and Iran, which side, if either, do you think the UK should back? | Daily Question

In the event of a full-scale war between Israel and Iran, which side, if either, do you think the UK should back?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/international/survey-results/daily/2025/06/13/0d5a9/3

YourOnMute · 21/06/2025 23:14

BibiSuzanne · 21/06/2025 20:32

@mids2019
I marched today. Along with 350,000 people. I chanted to stop bombing Iran. Israel’s hypocrisy and arrogance makes me sick. Every accusation they have uttered has been a confession. And you and your many posts about Palestine and now Iran are pathetic. You are deliberately trying to provoke a reaction and at the same time waiting for a lot of back patting from the many Zionist supporters that seem to have multiplied on Mumsnet.

I am admittedly not great on technology but I listened to a discussion today that similarly to many Russian based bots pushing forward the Brexit agenda and various conspiracy theories, similar is happening with bots pushing a pro-Netanyahu agenda.
Certainly the Iran activities are keeping Gaza and the escalation of displacement of Palestinian people in the illegally occupied West Bank off the headlines.

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:18

Agree @YourOnMute especially when we see on Monday we will see the full review from the EU that finds:

"The review says that it amounts to “collective punishment of the civilian population” – which is illegal under international law – and that it also amounts to the use of “starvation as a method of war”.

It also references the “unprecedented level of killing and injury of civilians in Gaza” resulting from “indiscriminate attacks without proportion or precaution”.

LottieLovehandle · 21/06/2025 23:19

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EscargotChic · 21/06/2025 23:20

The Iranian and Israeli regimes have both done appalling things and I would love to see them both fall but I think a war between them is most likely just to result in further suffering and possibly strengthening them both against the external enemy.

PaxAeterna · 21/06/2025 23:33

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Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve always understood that a bot is computer generated and simply repeats phrases. Like I don’t think a bot could interact with a thread.

There are however troll factories that employ real people to push certain narratives.

https://www.france24.com/en/technology/20230215-israeli-firm-boasted-of-meddling-in-more-than-30-elections-worldwide

YourOnMute · 22/06/2025 01:04

I could have picked up the terminology wrong but that was the jist of it.

Madcatdudette · 22/06/2025 01:30

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:06

???
I haven't a clue what you are talking about?

Really? You have no clue about the slaughter of other Muslims around the world? Or the slaughter of Christians? Or any other religious group?

YourOnMute · 22/06/2025 02:07

Do you mean the slaughter of Muslims and Christians in Gaza and in Lebanon? The slaughter of Muslims (and possibly Christians too) in Syria? All recently bombed by Israel.
I don't want anyone to be bombed. Who does?

Wasn't it the bombings and atrocities carried out against ordinary civilians in WW2 that so horrified the world that it created international laws and defined war crimes within this to prevent it happening again?

But this is a thread about a demonstration protesting the bombing of Iran in London. If you care so much about other atrocities, please feel free to create a thread for them or join existing ones.

CharlieRight · 22/06/2025 06:35

China has banned the export of rare earth metals (eg Ce, Nd, Dy), heavy metals (As, Sb) and refractory metals (W, Mo, Nb). That’s a problem because China dominate the supply chains of these materials and they are essential for motors, electronics, bullets, high explosives, shrapnel and armor penetration.

so hopefully they will run out of bombs soon

mids2019 · 22/06/2025 07:33

Well done Trump by the way. Courageous and righteous decision.

You do worry now about the anger in some of these pro Palestinain / pro Iran demonstrations will spill out into physical violence . We already have had vandalism on RAF bases and with Iran's foreign spy network probably agitating for more demonstrations of is worrying. There was a 'stop the hate" counter demonstration where a bottle was thrown at a member of the crowd and do people believe this is reasonable behaviour?

A quick question. If Iran decides to use terrorism as a means of revenge for the recent US attacks to get and instill fear into the US population how should the US and its allies respomd?

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Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 07:33

Madcatdudette · 22/06/2025 01:30

Really? You have no clue about the slaughter of other Muslims around the world? Or the slaughter of Christians? Or any other religious group?

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Ok maybe you can explain the post since @Dangermoo won't despite me asking politely and them being active on numerous other threads
Their post was in response to my post stating

"It absolutely is.

Holding Israel accountable for their actions the same as any other government is not anti semitism"

And that was the response. I said I don't have a clue because I fail to see the relevance.

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