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Conflict in the Middle East

Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

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SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:17

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

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anotherside · 13/06/2025 13:55

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 13:47

Yeah, you’re right.

Israel became a nuclear power 70 years ago. Never once used a nuclear weapon. So let’s just hand them out to dictatorship regimes like Iran.

It’s only fair, right?

Neither have the seven other countries which have them, including two dictatorships and two arguably quasi dictatorships. The only state which has used them is Israel’s biggest support, the democratic US.

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 13:57

anotherside · 13/06/2025 13:55

Neither have the seven other countries which have them, including two dictatorships and two arguably quasi dictatorships. The only state which has used them is Israel’s biggest support, the democratic US.

Are you arguing Iran should develop nuclear weapon capability?

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:00

My X timeline is full of Zionist Iranians longing for the return of the Shah yet there's barely a mention of the democratically elected socialist leader who was overthrown in a coup backed by the US and UK to install him in 1953. Who knows had that regime and its democratic successors been left alone, they might have brought real peace and prosperity to the region. He is the most popualr Iranian leader of all time.

But no meddle, frustrate, topple. Funny that

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

anotherside · 13/06/2025 14:00

@mids2019
All the team Gaza folk obviously are now team Iran as well. How many are wishing well to any strikes on the IDF. Despicable

Apologies for not cheerleading Netanyahu’s murder of some 14,500 Gazan children over the last 18 month period. (UNICEF figures). Despicable indeed.

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:08

anotherside · 13/06/2025 13:55

Neither have the seven other countries which have them, including two dictatorships and two arguably quasi dictatorships. The only state which has used them is Israel’s biggest support, the democratic US.

Well, it is absolutely meaningless that the US is the only power to have used a nuclear weapon because it is precisely for that reason, that no one else has ever used one.

Someone would have been the first to use one at some point. It was inevitable. The important thing is that they are not used again. The important thing is that we do not make any more nuclear powers, but instead work towards denuclearisation.

For the benefit of everyone.

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:11

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 13:57

Are you arguing Iran should develop nuclear weapon capability?

Yes, a lot of people on this thread appear to think Iran should be able to develop nuclear weapons.

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 14:12

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:11

Yes, a lot of people on this thread appear to think Iran should be able to develop nuclear weapons.

I’m quite interested in that. It’s a bold position to take.

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:15

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:11

Yes, a lot of people on this thread appear to think Iran should be able to develop nuclear weapons.

Well should the world have bombed North Korea when it knew they were on the threshold if not why not ? Same for Pakistan and India and Turkey and South Korea have declared intent and capacity.

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:25

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:15

Well should the world have bombed North Korea when it knew they were on the threshold if not why not ? Same for Pakistan and India and Turkey and South Korea have declared intent and capacity.

Is the world currently bombing Iran?

The countries you mention are already nuclear powers, so the conversation about what “the world” could have done, should have done, is pointless.

The world does not need any more nuclear powers.

The world should be working towards denuclearisation.

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 14:28

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:15

Well should the world have bombed North Korea when it knew they were on the threshold if not why not ? Same for Pakistan and India and Turkey and South Korea have declared intent and capacity.

@sualipais it important to you Iran do get to do this?

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:29

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 14:28

@sualipais it important to you Iran do get to do this?

Honestly I don't undertand your question ?

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 14:30

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:29

Honestly I don't undertand your question ?

Is it important to you that Iran also get to develop nuclear weapon capability?

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:31

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:25

Is the world currently bombing Iran?

The countries you mention are already nuclear powers, so the conversation about what “the world” could have done, should have done, is pointless.

The world does not need any more nuclear powers.

The world should be working towards denuclearisation.

"Pax Judea" - after Jesus tried and failed. Has a nice ring to it !

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 13/06/2025 14:34

Vivi0 · 13/06/2025 14:25

Is the world currently bombing Iran?

The countries you mention are already nuclear powers, so the conversation about what “the world” could have done, should have done, is pointless.

The world does not need any more nuclear powers.

The world should be working towards denuclearisation.

The world should be working towards denuclearisation.

Absolutely this. Are they though? Who'll bite first? Because until they do more developing countries are going to want to develop nuclear power.

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:41

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 14:30

Is it important to you that Iran also get to develop nuclear weapon capability?

Thanks. I don’t want Iran to have nukes who does? But you can see why they might try. They’ve seen what happened to Iraq and Libya when they didn’t have them, and they’re surrounded by nuclear-armed powers. It’s not ideal, but it’s hardly shocking either.

What baffles me is this idea that lobbing bombs at them will somehow make things better. It won’t it'll just light another fire in an already unstable region, and we’ll all end up feeling the fallout one way or another.

And where were all these armchair experts when 500 of us were out marching with CND from St Martin-in-the-Fields back in ’79, Monsignor Bruce Kent at the front, or camping at Greenham Common freezing our arses off to stop this sort of nuclear madness? We’ve been banging on about this for years. Funny how it’s only a crisis now.

And while we’re at it can the international agenices maybe get round to inspecting Israel’s nukes too?

TorroFerney · 13/06/2025 14:44

Flanger · 13/06/2025 01:30

Why do people comment this? Is Google not free for you to use or do you just think that 99% of news items are bollocks?

agree. And at least type do you have a source for this or where have you seen this reported. One word is so staggeringly rude!

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:48

TorroFerney · 13/06/2025 14:44

agree. And at least type do you have a source for this or where have you seen this reported. One word is so staggeringly rude!

Que ?!

SigmundinaCafe · 13/06/2025 14:53

After Gaza, it's time they found their own way in the world without constantly expecting others to come to their rescue.

Tell me you know nothing about the history of the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing about the Middle East 😂 My god. Go back and read the history books and pay very close attention to the Israeli War of Liberation, 1948.

SigmundinaCafe · 13/06/2025 14:57

“Virgin female prisoners should be raped before execution so that they do not go to heaven.”

The words of Ayatollah Khomeini, the founding leader of the Islamist Regime in Iran.

Good job Israel!! 🇮🇱

sualipa · 13/06/2025 15:01

SigmundinaCafe · 13/06/2025 14:57

“Virgin female prisoners should be raped before execution so that they do not go to heaven.”

The words of Ayatollah Khomeini, the founding leader of the Islamist Regime in Iran.

Good job Israel!! 🇮🇱

I'm not saying it's untrue but there are just 2 google pages with that qoute most in the last few hoiurs from pro-Israel accounts - the Hasbara is strong on this. What else have you got wrong in that case ?

Update it came from "The quote “Virgin female prisoners should be raped before execution so that they do not go to heaven” is attributed to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the former leader of ISIS (Islamic State).
This statement reflects the brutal and extremist ideology promoted by ISIS regarding treatment of prisoners, particularly women. It is one of many horrific justifications used by ISIS for acts of violence and sexual slavery."

HellsBalls · 13/06/2025 15:02

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:15

Well should the world have bombed North Korea when it knew they were on the threshold if not why not ? Same for Pakistan and India and Turkey and South Korea have declared intent and capacity.

You can actually reason with those people.
You cannot reason with Islamist fundamentalists.

SharonEllis · 13/06/2025 15:02

sualipa · 13/06/2025 14:41

Thanks. I don’t want Iran to have nukes who does? But you can see why they might try. They’ve seen what happened to Iraq and Libya when they didn’t have them, and they’re surrounded by nuclear-armed powers. It’s not ideal, but it’s hardly shocking either.

What baffles me is this idea that lobbing bombs at them will somehow make things better. It won’t it'll just light another fire in an already unstable region, and we’ll all end up feeling the fallout one way or another.

And where were all these armchair experts when 500 of us were out marching with CND from St Martin-in-the-Fields back in ’79, Monsignor Bruce Kent at the front, or camping at Greenham Common freezing our arses off to stop this sort of nuclear madness? We’ve been banging on about this for years. Funny how it’s only a crisis now.

And while we’re at it can the international agenices maybe get round to inspecting Israel’s nukes too?

What on earth are you talking about. Have you paid no attention to the debates around nukes since Hiroshima? Absolutely bizzarre. And I was a Greenham and Aldermaston so dont need lectures thanks but the world is a very different place.

sualipa · 13/06/2025 15:05

SharonEllis · 13/06/2025 15:02

What on earth are you talking about. Have you paid no attention to the debates around nukes since Hiroshima? Absolutely bizzarre. And I was a Greenham and Aldermaston so dont need lectures thanks but the world is a very different place.

I don't remember the battle cry "bombs for peace". But then the Quakers are quite extreme if you can get over the long silences.

GretaGreen · 13/06/2025 15:07

SigmundinaCafe · 13/06/2025 14:57

“Virgin female prisoners should be raped before execution so that they do not go to heaven.”

The words of Ayatollah Khomeini, the founding leader of the Islamist Regime in Iran.

Good job Israel!! 🇮🇱

I'm not sure why you think Israeli leaders would care about that? Israel have quite the long list of rape and sexual assault allegations(that they investigate themselves and clear themselves of), when they found out children were raped and sexually assaulted in prison they closed down the organisation that brought it to light. Should Israel be bombed too? Will you cheer that on too?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/8/9/everything-is-legitimate-israeli-leaders-defend-soldiers-accused-of-rape

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

https://www.thejournal.ie/children-abused-in-israeli-prison-6443831-Jul2024/

Palestinian children describe abuse, starvation, sexual assault and disease in Israeli prisons

Children, like many other Palestinians held captive by Israel, are often not allowed to communicate with their parents or a lawyer.

https://www.thejournal.ie:443/children-abused-in-israeli-prison-6443831-Jul2024/

Whatsinanamehey · 13/06/2025 15:08

HellsBalls · 13/06/2025 15:02

You can actually reason with those people.
You cannot reason with Islamist fundamentalists.

You can reason with North Korea?

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