Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

[SomeWomanSomewhere]

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

For those of a cynical bent and possibly of a certain age, there are three Tom Lehrer songs that I highly recommend. Available on YouTube with the strong sense of Groundhog Day and nowt new under the son.

We've been here before of course, but the chessboard is dramatically different, and the odds far less certain. Living in hope is essential of course, but also it's wearisome that we have to.

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Yup, the technology has progressed even further, many countries have achieved and others are working on MRR low yield tactical nuclear bombs. The Low yield minimal fallout nuclear weapons is the most dangerous thing as they can be deployed in a "backpack" size, they have less fallout so are not as detectable. Also as they are not "Strategic" weapons are not subject to the START treaty.

A lot of countries treat their citizens badly. Are Israel going to attack all of those as well?

I'd guess only if they have ambitions towards getting nukes and attacking Israel with them.

@SharonEllis

"Sorry if people don't want to hear about the horrific state of affairs in Iran but here is the link again to recent information on Iran. A country that treats its citizens like this is a major threat to the world if it has nuclear weapons "

How Iran or China or whoever treats their own citizens is a matter for that country. It is not up to other countries to try and implement regime change. It is up to their own citizens to either vote for an alternative (in a democracy) or a public uprising to overthrow the existing authoritarian regime.

However preventing a state from obtaining nuclear weapons, a state that has attacked British shipping, kidnapped Royal Navy sailors and marines on several occasions, Iranians recently arrested for planning a terrorist attack in London and today threatened the British military with attacks is very very much in the interests of the UK.

@GretaGreen

"Why not speak out about all horrific governments having access to nuclear weapons? "
That is kind of already been done by an organisation called CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament) - you may of heard of them?

As a side note who gets to decide which Governments are horrific and which are not. Some might for example say that the US Government is horrific or others might say that the Chinese Government is horrific - but it's largely irrelevant because neither are giving up their nuclear weapons anytime soon.

What is relevant is preventing Iran, a country that seeks the destruction of Israel as well as attacking British interests and military from obtaining nuclear weapons. Or are you OK with that?

As a side note who gets to decide which Governments are horrific and which are not.
Apparently Israel does. That's their justification for bombing Iran that people are defending.

What is relevant is preventing Iran, a country that seeks the destruction of Israel as well as attacking British interests and military from obtaining nuclear weapons. Or are you OK with that?

Not how it being done no. Dropping bombs isn't the way peace. You would think Israel who have dropped the equivalent of 6 Hiroshimas on a tiny strip of land as well as bombing multiple other countries over the past 18months would know that better than anyone.

I’m not keen on Iran , either. They don’t treat women well, for a start. But if another country invades them, don’t come to us for help after the fact.

Following the rules of unintended consequences, US secretary of defence Pete Hegseth has just confirmed that America transferred Air Defence systems from Ukraine to the Middle East.

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1933902198368358877

Ironically the Iran/Israel conflict is now benefiting Russia who is getting more money from increased Oil Prices and will be able to proceed at a faster pace due to Ukraine having less Air Defence.

Congratulations Donald "I will stop this war in 24 hours" Trump, negotiation skills top tier as usual.

I do not think that you will find any more than a handful of people backing the Iranian regime in the whole of Europe, if there is even one.
But I think it is too much of a coincidence that Israel declares war on Iran on the very same day Netanyahu is in trouble in Parliament and court. It is becoming too much of a theme here. Whenever there is a momentum built against him, there is a new place to bomb.
I have no trust left for whatever he and his government says is the reason. My spidey senses tell me that Netanyahu is the reason.
And, yes I know Iran is a threat to Israel and US. But US was going through the diplomacy route. They just were telling us that till yesterday. And they have said multiple times that they do not want a war with Iran. Trump has met with them recently, too.
Netanyahu is making Trump appear like his puppet, same as he did with Biden.
He needs to go.
Many other peoppe in power in Middle East need to go behind him, but I think Netanyahu gone will actually help.

I hope UK does not send a single soldier or resource. We should keep them, to defend ourselves and combat Russia, who is just getting more and more emboldened every day. And this is the conflict tgat is taking more lives, fromm all the current active wars.

Why should any British soldier fight alongside this if then Vance will just refer to the effort as some random country? And treat us like UK has done nothing.
UK should distance itself from this madness.
Appart of the petrol prices going up, we will have the shipping of goods increase and also delays and uncertainty related to the conflict in the area. Because we are stupid enough to use China and East Asia like our manufacturing backyard. But Middle East time bomb is just stuck in between us. And whoever gathers power in the area will be sending us a big bill for the priviledge of moving goods through their waters.

Not a peep yet from Trump on his Truth Social he's more obsessed with his military parade which looks like it will be rained on ! Very strange - you would have thought some solidarity message would have been in order and Ambo Huckabee hasn't tweetd for 9 hours to say don't figet how many US citizens live in Israel. Everyone will be waiting for the Great Orange ones take before opining.

@MushMonster No soldiers will get involved. It will be restricted to intelligence, navy and Air Force.

I disagree, i think to bring about regime change was one of the reasons they attacked. Not just because they consider them a nuclear threat.

https://news.sky.com/story/nuclear-threat-wasnt-the-only-reason-israel-attacked-iran-13383624

Oh he's not going to, the way he was strutting around yesterday like Billy Big balls, claiming he knew and how negotiations were just a ruse and isn't Trump great. If he was capable of feeling embarrassment he would be doing so now, after the destruction in Tel Aviv. Most probably reaching out through third countries asking Iran not to hit US bases and its his Birthday today.

The financial market isn't happy and the MAGA base is extremely angry too.

The most important thing though is the way the operation was carried out (drones on trucks inside Iran) is exactly the same as how Ukraine carried out it's operation against Russia's nuclear assets. Pointing to NATO involvement in both operations.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/14/uk-moves-jets-to-middle-east-as-starmer-refuses-to-rule-out-defending-israel

Oh good. 🫥

I did read on wiki that Israel have those
They are smaller and easier to transport as well

No idea what other countries have them and irrelevant as other countries aren’t the issue at the moment.

https://x.com/kennardmatt/status/1933827851934957769

"BREAKING: This morning at 8.51am Keir Starmer sent a UK military Voyager KC3 air-to-air refuelling plane from the UK base on Cyprus

It flew over Lebanon, Israel and Syria before turning off its transponder over Iraq

It was flying in direction of Iran

It’s in the sky now"

This is what Trump posted on January 7th and it’s still up. It’s an astonishing post, though Trump is so mercurial that it’s impossible to draw firm conclusions from any single message.

He reposted a “truth” in which Netanyahu is described as a “deep, dark son of a beech” who allegedly dragged the U.S. into endless wars and is now intent on pulling America into a final, planned conflict with Iran.

If this still reflects Trump’s position, it essentially signals that Netanyahu is on his own. If Iran refrains from attacking non-Israeli targets, then the U.S and likely Europe and other traditional allies will stay out of it. The risks are simply too great, and the consequences too devastating to entertain direct involvement.

This echoes a previous understanding Trump reportedly had with the Houthis: if they stayed away from attacking ships in the Gulf, the U.S. would leave them alone. What they did to Israel, in that logic, was “none of our business.”

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113789043423746072

Ah shit. Maybe Iran won't notice?

Talk about mixed messages - "De-escalate, de-escalate, commit to nothing"
(While we bolster military hardware into the area).

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I literally said ' he want regime change'. Are you argiung with me for the sake of it?

The threat to the UK and others is based on if they support Israel in a military way That’s key!

If they support Israel in a military way then they have chosen to engage themselves in the war between Israel and Iran and decided to side with Israel against Iran.
That is how wars work.

China meanwhile have made the following statement
( I have no idea at this point what other countries have said )

Agree and let’s not forget @MushMonster post as well.
This is entirely in Netanyahus self interest

I wouldn’t normally post Steve Bannon, but he is the ideological engine and conscience of the MAGA movement and without that movement, Trump is little more than a convicted, bankrupt felon. Bannon is now pushing hard to frame Israel’s actions as part of the neocon war hawk agenda that has sacrificed “America First” for narrow, sectional interests and sees Netanhayu as wanting to drag America into another "forever" war.

https://twitter.com/Stevebannonsk/status/1933652123629052276

You said that's not why he is attacking Iran. I think that is one of the reasons he is. No, I'm not arguing for the sake of it.