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Conflict in the Middle East

Freedom Flotilla

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Badh · 06/06/2025 23:11

Thought this might be worth its own thread. The freedom flotilla The Madleen was getting close to Gaza but seems to have made a diversion, as it was the closest boat to answer a distress call. They seem to also have four Sudanese asylum seekers on board who were trying to escape the Libyan coast patrol.

The UK and France are asking Israel for its safe passage.

The tracker is here but is in and out of action.
https://freedomflotilla.org/ffc-tracker/

More details here, although the latest detour is not covered in the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-navy-gears-up-to-block-high-profile-protest-ship-headed-for-gaza/amp/

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Whatsinanamehey · 09/06/2025 21:04

sualipa · 09/06/2025 20:50

"Selfie Flotilla"

Shameless.

NotABottie · 09/06/2025 21:20

So it seems the shipmates did ditch their phones in the sea according to this video from the NY Post.

Can anyone think why?

Do we assume they threw their own personal phones overboard (which would be a great loss, right? ) or do we think they had phones just for the trip that they were OK to dump?

Interesting.

Francesca Albanese, the UN Rapporteur for the Palestinian Territories said on X she had been in contact with them right up until the IDF approached. She has been accused of Hamas links.

unwatch.org/report-un-orchestrated-cover-up-of-francesca-albaneses-financial-misconduct/

The Head of ‘Break the Seige’ has links to Hamas as per my links of my 9.30am post.

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/world-news/alleged-hamas-operative-organized-greta-thunbergs-failed-attempt-to-break-gaza-blockade-report/#:~:text=Zaher%20Birawi%2C%2063%2C%20the%20head,blockade%20on%20the%20Palestinian%20enclave.

This is what supporters of Greta are supporting.

HTHs.

Alleged ‘Hamas operative’ organized Greta Thunberg’s failed attempt to break Gaza blockade: report

British-Palestinian journalist Zaher Birawi, who has long-been accused of being a “Hamas operative,” served as a key figure who helped launch the aid vessel carrying Greta Thunberg and …

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/world-news/alleged-hamas-operative-organized-greta-thunbergs-failed-attempt-to-break-gaza-blockade-report/

Nowayyousure · 09/06/2025 21:31

NotABottie · 09/06/2025 21:20

So it seems the shipmates did ditch their phones in the sea according to this video from the NY Post.

Can anyone think why?

Do we assume they threw their own personal phones overboard (which would be a great loss, right? ) or do we think they had phones just for the trip that they were OK to dump?

Interesting.

Francesca Albanese, the UN Rapporteur for the Palestinian Territories said on X she had been in contact with them right up until the IDF approached. She has been accused of Hamas links.

unwatch.org/report-un-orchestrated-cover-up-of-francesca-albaneses-financial-misconduct/

The Head of ‘Break the Seige’ has links to Hamas as per my links of my 9.30am post.

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/world-news/alleged-hamas-operative-organized-greta-thunbergs-failed-attempt-to-break-gaza-blockade-report/#:~:text=Zaher%20Birawi%2C%2063%2C%20the%20head,blockade%20on%20the%20Palestinian%20enclave.

This is what supporters of Greta are supporting.

HTHs.

I wouldn't bother, supporters of terrorists won't read this. They will deny any links to terrorism by any of the people on the boat even if poof is provided.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 09/06/2025 21:43

Can anyone think why?

Yes.

Knowing how Israeli intelligence services operate, their long history of flagrantly ignoring international law, their long history of murder, barbarism, abduction, torture, assassination, blackmail, false flag, financial dirty tricks, and psy ops intended to ruin reputations and health, I wouldn't want my phone full of contacts falling into their hands either.

ssd · 09/06/2025 21:49

Nowayyousure · 09/06/2025 21:31

I wouldn't bother, supporters of terrorists won't read this. They will deny any links to terrorism by any of the people on the boat even if poof is provided.

1200 plus murdered on Oct 7th

54000 plus murdered in Gaza since Oct 7th

Who are the terrorists now?

1dayatatime · 09/06/2025 21:50

@sualipa

"There is a much bigger land convoy travelling through Northern Africa on the way to Gaza - how far it gets will be down to individaul Arab governments. When Greta gets out she may wish to hitch her global reach to this. "

You are correct how far it gets will depend on individual Arab countries, in particular whether Egypt allows it to enter Gaza.

There is also the issue of getting across Libya safely given its lawlessness.

sualipa · 09/06/2025 21:53

NotABottie · 09/06/2025 21:20

So it seems the shipmates did ditch their phones in the sea according to this video from the NY Post.

Can anyone think why?

Do we assume they threw their own personal phones overboard (which would be a great loss, right? ) or do we think they had phones just for the trip that they were OK to dump?

Interesting.

Francesca Albanese, the UN Rapporteur for the Palestinian Territories said on X she had been in contact with them right up until the IDF approached. She has been accused of Hamas links.

unwatch.org/report-un-orchestrated-cover-up-of-francesca-albaneses-financial-misconduct/

The Head of ‘Break the Seige’ has links to Hamas as per my links of my 9.30am post.

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/world-news/alleged-hamas-operative-organized-greta-thunbergs-failed-attempt-to-break-gaza-blockade-report/#:~:text=Zaher%20Birawi%2C%2063%2C%20the%20head,blockade%20on%20the%20Palestinian%20enclave.

This is what supporters of Greta are supporting.

HTHs.

They’re using terms like "alleged" and 'Hamas operative' very deliberately because they can’t prove it and they don’t want to get sued. Even the Telegraph covered this, and as your own source notes, Birawi was eventually awarded compensation when he sued the NatWest financial database for allegedly putting him on a terrorism watch list. That speaks volumes. It has all the hallmarks of an Israeli intelligence smear campaign, because that’s almost certainly what it is.

sualipa · 09/06/2025 22:06

1dayatatime · 09/06/2025 21:50

@sualipa

"There is a much bigger land convoy travelling through Northern Africa on the way to Gaza - how far it gets will be down to individaul Arab governments. When Greta gets out she may wish to hitch her global reach to this. "

You are correct how far it gets will depend on individual Arab countries, in particular whether Egypt allows it to enter Gaza.

There is also the issue of getting across Libya safely given its lawlessness.

Egypt will no doubt turn it back if it ever gets there it's effectively a US client state and has been for decades since the death of Nasser in 1970 and gets $1 billion a year for the US which Trump hasn't stopped.

quantumbutterfly · 09/06/2025 22:10

1dayatatime · 09/06/2025 21:50

@sualipa

"There is a much bigger land convoy travelling through Northern Africa on the way to Gaza - how far it gets will be down to individaul Arab governments. When Greta gets out she may wish to hitch her global reach to this. "

You are correct how far it gets will depend on individual Arab countries, in particular whether Egypt allows it to enter Gaza.

There is also the issue of getting across Libya safely given its lawlessness.

What could possibly go wrong?

Whatsinanamehey · 09/06/2025 22:16

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 09/06/2025 21:43

Can anyone think why?

Yes.

Knowing how Israeli intelligence services operate, their long history of flagrantly ignoring international law, their long history of murder, barbarism, abduction, torture, assassination, blackmail, false flag, financial dirty tricks, and psy ops intended to ruin reputations and health, I wouldn't want my phone full of contacts falling into their hands either.

I read an article recently how BBC journalists were arrested, blindfolded and had all their devices taken from them by the IDF when they were reporting in Syria. They were then held at gunpoint and threatened not to return to report in the area again even though they were allowed to be there.

The team's interrogation lasted more than two hours, during which all our phones and laptops were examined, and many photos - including personal ones - were deleted.
The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

sualipa · 09/06/2025 22:21

Whatsinanamehey · 09/06/2025 22:16

I read an article recently how BBC journalists were arrested, blindfolded and had all their devices taken from them by the IDF when they were reporting in Syria. They were then held at gunpoint and threatened not to return to report in the area again even though they were allowed to be there.

The team's interrogation lasted more than two hours, during which all our phones and laptops were examined, and many photos - including personal ones - were deleted.
The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

Thanks for the heads up - quite and somehow I don't think we will ever hear a peep from the BBC's chief tormentor and ex of that parish Danny Cohen.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4grldkeyv5o

SigmundinaCafe · 09/06/2025 22:22

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Headfullofbees · 09/06/2025 22:23

@NotABottie The report I saw said the people on board were saying 'we are all healthy, noone is injured at the time we were boarded' and saying all phones were ditched so that now if reports are made that something which could be linked to terrorism was found on a device, or they sustain injuries between boarding and release then there is footage out there saying that those two things cannot be true as they were all uninjured and had no devices when the boat was boarded.

Edit to add I'd assume they were phones /devices purely for this trip. They were very ready to throw them out and the whole moment of boarding felt expected/practiced/scripted. They said in several videos they were trained for this moment, so seems they were prepared enough to have not brought personal devices. Just my assumption though.

Badh · 09/06/2025 22:25

@sualipa Yes from reading it seems highly unlikely that Egypt with let in any of these groups going to Gaza. As in they won’t let them into Egypt. Only small highly vetted groups have been let in prior. Same as Europe, too wedded to the US.

I applaud each and every one of them.

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HellsBalls · 09/06/2025 22:29

ssd · 09/06/2025 21:49

1200 plus murdered on Oct 7th

54000 plus murdered in Gaza since Oct 7th

Who are the terrorists now?

You forgot to add the hostages murdered by Hamas to the 1200, and deduct the Hamas terrorists from the 54,000.

The terrorists are still Hamas. HTH.

quantumbutterfly · 09/06/2025 22:35

Badh · 09/06/2025 22:25

@sualipa Yes from reading it seems highly unlikely that Egypt with let in any of these groups going to Gaza. As in they won’t let them into Egypt. Only small highly vetted groups have been let in prior. Same as Europe, too wedded to the US.

I applaud each and every one of them.

You think that's the only reason why Egypt might not want 1000 unknown people within it's borders, after having at least one president assassinated and various islamist attacks in recent years? Because America?

NotABottie · 09/06/2025 22:36

Whatsinanamehey · 09/06/2025 22:16

I read an article recently how BBC journalists were arrested, blindfolded and had all their devices taken from them by the IDF when they were reporting in Syria. They were then held at gunpoint and threatened not to return to report in the area again even though they were allowed to be there.

The team's interrogation lasted more than two hours, during which all our phones and laptops were examined, and many photos - including personal ones - were deleted.
The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

They didn’t deny they were filming military positions did they?

Surprised you didn’t include the article.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4grldkeyv5o.amp

The journalist from the report was a British Palestinian, with a team of two Iraqis and 4 Syrians reporting in an area where the IDF were carrying out a ground incursion in Syria. They were reporting for BBC Arabic.

Unsurprising the IDF were cautious IMO. Obviously no evidence of what they said happened but they were released without injury weren’t they?

No pic of marks on wrists from being zip tied or do the IDF use special feather ones?

Probably a case of don’t film a military in active warfare don’t you think, or rather FAFO? As a war correspondent, he would have known that.

Martymcfly24 · 09/06/2025 22:36

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No they didn't.

But it's good to know your post has every piece of Israeli propaganda recycled in it.

"Inadvertently kill innocent people"

It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

sualipa · 09/06/2025 22:36

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Not all, and certainly not me. Accusing people of supporting a terrorist organisation simply because they care about civilians being killed feels wildly unfair. Empathy isn’t a crime but the way you’ve framed it, that’s almost how it comes across.

And yes, even if Hamas operates in civilian areas (which they clearly do), that doesn’t give another state a blank cheque to bomb entire neighbourhoods. That’s not just an emotional point it’s grounded in international law, including the Geneva Conventions. As for the Gaza Health Ministry numbers the US State Dept, UN and even some Israeli officals have used their figures before. Writing them off completely just sounds more political than anything.

And no, recognising and speaking out about mass civilian suffering is not the same as supporting Hamas. It’s possible to be horrified by what happened on October 7 and by what’s happened since. We don't have to excuse one set of atrocities to condemn another.

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Badh · 09/06/2025 22:41

quantumbutterfly · 09/06/2025 22:35

You think that's the only reason why Egypt might not want 1000 unknown people within it's borders, after having at least one president assassinated and various islamist attacks in recent years? Because America?

I think it would be possible for them to facilitate more but they won’t because of the US. Nobody is expecting any country to let 1000 unknown people in. You’d expect a normal visa issuing process to be followed.

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Martymcfly24 · 09/06/2025 22:41

No pic of marks on wrists from being zip tied or do the IDF use special feather ones?

Because they took their phones and cameras?????

quantumbutterfly · 09/06/2025 22:43

Badh · 09/06/2025 22:41

I think it would be possible for them to facilitate more but they won’t because of the US. Nobody is expecting any country to let 1000 unknown people in. You’d expect a normal visa issuing process to be followed.

Then it'll be fine as long as they have their paperwork.

YourOnMute · 09/06/2025 22:44

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 09/06/2025 19:57

Oh come off it, pull the other one. Greta has no interest in the humanitarian aid, have you seen her delivering medical supplies into Ukraine or any of the other war torn areas.

This war, one of many which goes on across the globe each year has drawn unprecedented attention from the left wing/believe anything as long as there’s a band wagon to jump on. What makes this war so different that it’s evoking this response boils down to one thing, that one side is Jewish and it plays into the stereotyping of Jewish people by the oft anti Semitic left.

The majority of support from Gaza comes from people who would be imprisoned or killed if they lived under Hamas -the rest from those who subscribe to the desire to get rid of Israel.

All of it is ego led. What do you want the outcome to be? For Israel to lay down its weapons and not defend itself? If so it’s clear your agenda.

Particularly "it's clear your agenda"...what agenda is that please pray tell?
I had to expressly spell out on another thread that I post what I post in good faith and I object strongly to this and other accusatory statements. If you want to say something, say it but do not accuse me of secret agendas, or stereotyping of Jewish peoples etc.
I can criticise Israel's actions and if I do, I always say why. That does not make me anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish or the "oft ant-semitic left".
I don't make labels or claims about any poster. I expect the same respect. Do not post your spurious views of my "agenda".
I am entitled to have different views, as are you. That does not make me anti-Semitic. Thousands of Israeli Jews are themselves against what's happening and the government too. Are they anti-Semitic or do you just reserve that term for whatever "ethnicity of a person" you imagine me to be?

Ukraine hasn't had a border siege since the beginning of March so it doesn't need support getting food and aid in. It has a well functioning humanitarian aid program on site. Hope that helps.

SigmundinaCafe · 09/06/2025 22:46

Jesus, Mary, Saint Joseph, and the wee donkey, I’ve just got round to watching the video of the Selfie Yacht getting intercepted 😂😂😂😂😂 It’s fucking hilarious, what a bunch of losers. I can barely type this I can’t stop laughing 😆

And even better, there’s an Al Jazeera person on board, the Qatar backed, blood libelist, propaganda machine. Is any of us remotely surprised by this revelation? No.

Can you even imagine, having the audacity to sail past Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, and be in the direct vicinity of Lebanon, Syria, parts of Kurdish Turkey, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, and Ethiopia, and the first place you’re going to provide aid to is Gaza? The place that’s been receiving an aid a surplus for the past two years, and billions of dollars for well over a decade before that?! My god.

This has been very revealing, at least there’s that: anyone who thinks these bozos are to be admired better get themselves checked out, that’s all I can say.

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