Freedom Flotilla

[Badh]

Thought this might be worth its own thread. The freedom flotilla The Madleen was getting close to Gaza but seems to have made a diversion, as it was the closest boat to answer a distress call. They seem to also have four Sudanese asylum seekers on board who were trying to escape the Libyan coast patrol.

The UK and France are asking Israel for its safe passage.

The tracker is here but is in and out of action.
https://freedomflotilla.org/ffc-tracker/

More details here, although the latest detour is not covered in the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-navy-gears-up-to-block-high-profile-protest-ship-headed-for-gaza/amp/

It seems they are close to Ashdod port currently.

Please don’t compare MLK and the suffragettes to a boatload of terrorist sympathisers trying to provoke a reaction, for propaganda purposes and SM clicks in an active war zone situation from a tiny country fighting terrorists on 7 fronts, and failing miserably.

As someone reminded me upthread “This thread is about the Freedom Flotila”

I asked one poster to stop with the hysteria, because of their numerous posts and misinformation on this thread about the crew being attacked, tortured etc.

If you had bothered to read the thread, you would have noted that.

But I actually think you have read the thread, so I’m really curious as to how you’ve made the jump from that, to me apparently saying that tens of thousands of dead children is hysteria and misinformation.

Because that never happened. As well you know.

It’s always the way of these threads unfortunately, blatant lies about what people have said, and throwing around insults.

Perhaps, pantsalot, you’re not so upstanding yourself…

I’m an absolute darling actually.

This thread is as many, if not all, in this section. A lot of bitter fighting, day in, day out.
But I think we are taking our eyes off the ball here. The goal of the ship is to deliver the aid to Gaza. Even if it is only a truck load worth, it is still needed. That Israel has said they will deliver it, is not the same as they have delivered it. And I have zero trust on Netanyahu's word for anything.
So I hope there is some tracking on the cargo and proof that is delivered, after inspection, in whole, timely and to the people who actually needs it, distributed fairly, among the civilians in Gaza. And then, after this one, all the many other truck loads waiting to be delivered and distributed to the civilians in Gaza. With no more blockade on aid. Enough was enough.

I agree with this so much. You put it perfectly.

We also see the “break the siege” mainly Tunisian activists on their way to Gaza.

And the thousands who will join the March to Gaza starting on June 12.

These groups are unlikely to even get to the border never mind get into Gaza. More symbolic actions drawing attention to the devastating situation in Gaza.

Well said.

Mmm, not really.

You said:

Tens of thousands of dead children is neither hysteria nor misinformation but sleep well you upstanding human.

I never said anything like that.

I asked one poster to stop with the hysteria, because of their numerous posts and misinformation on this thread about the crew being attacked, tortured etc.

What is the purpose of accusing me of things I never said? To insult me?

Why?

Well, I obviously can’t repeat it, because it will be deleted again.

But it wasn’t anything bad.

Just asking why you felt the need to lie?

You probably had it deleted because it was a personal attack, or whatever.

But it was nothing like your insult to me.

Which I’m not interested in reporting.

No idea why it was deleted, I didn’t report it so it must have been someone else who thought it wasn’t very nice. Anyway let’s not continue to derail this thread. Aid getting to starving people is important and if it can’t because it’s being stopped then other measures must be taken. Hats off to Greta - I hope she remains safe and the aid is delivered.

I hope the Israeli government realise that if they don't want a repeat of the flotilla or similar, they need to allow in sufficient aid to the Palestinians. They can't limit aid so much of the population is suffering and simultaneously complain that others are making the effort to make up for their shortfall.

My name is Greta Thunberg and I am from Sweden. If you see this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces, or forces that support Israel. I urge all my friends, family, and comrades to put pressure on the Swedish government to release me and the others as soon as possible."

Apparently, the Swedish consular hotline has received a high volume of calls in response to this.

Maria Malmer Stenergard, the Swedish Minister of Foreign Affairs has responded:

'A great responsibility rests on those who choose to travel contrary to the advice given to a place,'

It is quite dangerous to run a campaign that means that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs' consular hotline is called down”

'The consequence is that Swedes in need abroad have to wait in line for far too long.'

“If she needs consular support, we will do everything we can, just as we do with all Swedish citizens”

I will thank you. You don't have to agree.

Oh come off it, pull the other one. Greta has no interest in the humanitarian aid, have you seen her delivering medical supplies into Ukraine or any of the other war torn areas.

This war, one of many which goes on across the globe each year has drawn unprecedented attention from the left wing/believe anything as long as there’s a band wagon to jump on. What makes this war so different that it’s evoking this response boils down to one thing, that one side is Jewish and it plays into the stereotyping of Jewish people by the oft anti Semitic left.

The majority of support from Gaza comes from people who would be imprisoned or killed if they lived under Hamas -the rest from those who subscribe to the desire to get rid of Israel.

All of it is ego led. What do you want the outcome to be? For Israel to lay down its weapons and not defend itself? If so it’s clear your agenda.

What do you want the outcome to be here? How do you see this war ending?

The answer to your first question is to stop the genocide and help Palestinians survive. I’m surprised you’re asking.

Re your second one, all wars end either by one side being exterminated, or by a peace agreement. One of the sides here has the most powerful military killing machine on earth, the other doesn’t have an army. What do you think we want? And why don’t you want the same?

How do I see it ending? I don’t really see it ending. The wider conflict will continue on. It will just ebb and flow. Israel will proceed with their plan to contain or expel the Palestinians, they will expand the West Bank settlements. They will become increasingly isolated internationally but they won’t care as the US will stay behind them. Terrorist attacks will continue to target Israeli citizens and Jewish people worldwide. Palestinian civilians will continue to die and suffer.

How would I want the war ending? It would be an essay but I would largely agree with Blinken’s last speech which in short called for a proper plan for the end of the war, a viable political path to a Palestinian state and a ceasefire including the return of the hostages.

It seems very far away. The most urgent thing right now is that enough aid is let into Gaza before thousands start to die from lack of food and medical aid.

There is a much bigger land convoy travelling through Northern Africa on the way to Gaza - how far it gets will be down to individaul Arab governments. When Greta gets out she may wish to hitch her global reach to this.

A major solidarity convoy called “Al-Soumoud” (Steadfastness) set off from Tunis early Monday, June 9, on a historic journey toward Gaza. Nearly 1,000 Tunisians, joined by activists from Algeria, Libya, and Mauritania, are traveling overland through Libya and Egypt to reach the Rafah crossing.

The convoy includes doctors, lawyers, journalists, students, and aid workers. Organized by the Joint Action Coordination for Palestine, the mission aims to break the siege on Gaza and push for the entry of humanitarian aid, medical teams, and journalists.

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1932159883706773601

"Selfie Flotilla"

I know. You are 100% right. It would nearly make you lose faith in humanity.

Utter cunts.

I would largely agree with Blinken’s last speech which in short called for a proper plan for the end of the war, a viable political path to a Palestinian state and a ceasefire including the return of the hostages. @Badh

That's pretty much how every sane person would want it to go, however Netanyahu doesn't.

Has his son actually served in the IDF yet or does his just frolic in the US with his large security detail on his luxury beachside condo ? Just checked he was in the Press Corps based in Jerusalem.