Anti Israel Rhetoric is rife. Why?

[cindyhove]

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.
why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the current 110 conflicts?
The answer is blindingly obvious

I don't know quite what you're on about now but I already said I posted that comment at 11.41 today (on this thread).

Condemning Israel? Or expecting some Israeli soldiers actions to be held to account?

I'm asking you why you are calling posters weird for talking about Israel on a thread about Israel and hassling them to condemn Hamas but you aren't doing the same to the people who refuse to condemn the IDF.

Actually do you know what I don't care. This thread is mental. I'm not posting to defend myself for disagreeing with shooting first asking questions later or disagreeing with 15 aid workers being shot in close range one by one. If people want to try and deflect and distract go for it. I'm done with work in 5mins and am going out to enjoy the sun grateful that no one is shooting first then asking questions where I live.

Yep. I fully stand by it. I'd expect any soldier to shoot first think later in many war situations. And if you'd read the first thing about war you'd understand what I mean.

Do you expect every single soldier in the heat of war to be able to correctly analyze every single interaction? Or just the Israeli ones?

Yes the conversation has got confusing.

At 15.33 @Mylegishangingoff urged me to "Just say I agree, those poor people should never have been killed".

I reminded them that I had already said earlier today that "I don't agree with soldiers shooting people who appear to be surrendering. It seems likely that the stress of war conditions is getting to some of the IDF mentally and they are not behaving as they should. And I think that's understandable to an extent, but they still have to be held to account".

Enjoy the sunshine.

I'm grateful too that there's next to no chance of a terrorist organisation deciding to massacre our young people at a music festival this evening just because they have a grudge against the UK.

Yes it's the same people who defend the genocide against the Palestinians.

Next to no chance, but sadly not no chance 😟. Still a damn sight safer than some places, unless you're visibly Jewish at the moment.

Awful what I’m hearing about some Jewish people feeling unsafe in the UK at the moment.

Nope. Been here through the whole thread. No-one has said that. At all.

The levels of antisemitism have reached insane proportions

How do you think the IDF analysed the situation before killing 14 aid workers, and then felt the need to tell lies upon lies about how it happened ? How do you think the Israels analysed that same situation when they only initiated a proper investigation after footage emerged blowing the story out of the water ? And how do you think the rest of the world should analyse the subsequent burying of these aid workers plus their crushed emergency vehicles ?

Oh, that's OK then. The deliberate targeting of civillians by Israel? You seem to have ignored that.

I wish I could say I was shocked. There are some good interfaith initiatives bringing people together in the UK and the middle east, seems like a positive step towards peaceful co-existence.

In the same way that if a few Palestinians behave disgracefully that doesn’t mean that “Palestine” is rotten.

Oh please. You only have to read through any thread on this subject to know that’s exactly what the majority of people on MN think. Gazans are all condemned as deserving of everything they have suffered at the hands of the Israelis because they all support Hamas. Difficult to know how people can unequivocally state this as fact, since there have been no free elections there since 2006.

We live in an area where the Jewish population is high. We have several Jewish friends. They all say the same thing. They feel unsafe. And it’s because people think that because they are Jewish they must support what Israel is doing. They don’t. They don’t want any of Israels expansionist, colonial ideals perpetrated in their name. They’re sick of any criticism of what Israel is doing being met with cries of anti semitism. They want Netanyahu ousted and prosecuted for the criminal he is.

Just look at the threads on this board - most of the them are pro Palestine not pro Israel.

There are more people posting that are anti Israel too.

Perhaps before deciding you are Judge and Jury, (are even you qualified?) you should listen to this explanation of the case brought against Israel by South Africa which has not been determined yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68906919

And the point is that they should not feel unsafe in the UK, whether they agree with Israel or not.

Well I’m sorry to hear your Jewish friends feel unsafe.

Theres really no excuse for it whatever the political views someone may or may not have.

I agree with that. I include the poor man who wanted to cross the protest some while back.

Don’t forget the 2017 Manchester Arena attack on young fans of Ariana Grande.

As I explained to @whathaveiforgotten at 3.36 today, no one has explicitly said it (that the October 7th massacre of innocents was justifiable) but we can infer it from the justifications using the history of the region to "explain" why Hamas were so angry on behalf of the Palestinian people".

We see these sort of comments on most big threads about this topic.

I've no idea how they analyzed the situation and neither have you unless you were in the ambulance with them.

I expect they told lies about it because some people are liars. And truth of often a casualty of war.

I doubt very much there's any real investigation or any meaningful analysis of possible war crimes under Netanyahu's administration. I hope I'm wrong.

Anyone is of course free to analyze it how they wish. Forgive me if I don't give massive credence to us lot pontificating on mumsnet never having been part of an urban war situation.

Yet there's been surveys run by a Palestinian organisation that shows the majority of Palestinians backed the actions of October 7th and support for Hamas has grown since. Recently there's been protests against Hamas, probably because civilians are sick of having their aid stolen and being used as human shields

www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/