Anti Israel Rhetoric is rife. Why?

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As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.
why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the current 110 conflicts?
The answer is blindingly obvious

I’m not comfortable with the way you use the word Zionist and think you intend it as an insult so I won’t be engaging with you.

Plus we hold very different views on Imran Khan who I believe was rightly imprisoned for corruption so there’s no way we could ever see eye to eye anyway.

You haven't seen it? Have you chosen not to look? Do you not remember the posters of the hostages being torn down in multiple cities around the world? The pictures of Ariel and Kfir Bibas being defaced? The van with video screens of the hostages prevented ft driving round London in case it provoked the Pro-Palestinian demonstrators? The memorial in Brighton being destroyed multiple times? Have you not seen the videos of people being attacked by Pro-Palestinian protestors for holding banners saying Hamas are terrorists?

Have you not heard of Hasan, an X account with 1.5m followers who said even Israeli babies are settlers and therefore targets? Is that a Zionist conspiracy too?

Where have you been?

@Twiglets1 please understand that I will always condemn Hamas and have stated so many times. October 7th was unforgivable and I would never denigrate anyone's feelings about this tragic event.

I don't understand why the international community has not stepped in , on the ground among friends and colleagues I only see disgust at the actions of the IDF. I do believe though American is leading the way in supporting Israel due to political reasons(control in a volatile area especially Iran)and now with Trump there is a very strong fiscal reason to take over the area. Netanyahu is with him today.

I also don't know if after years of turmoil in Afghan, Iraq and Syria are people accustomed to Muslims and the Middle East being bombed.

Maybe countries feel.if they support Palestine they are denying Israels right to exist which should not be in doubt.

I don't know if that answers the question because it is purely my opinions on a complex issue.

Both really because if enough of the population protest about something then the government has to do something.

I remember the poll tax riots and the government had to listen in the end because so many of the electorate were against it.

Whereas this issue is more divided with lots of people feeling pro Israel while others are pro Palestine. Though it has to be said the pro Palestine camp are louder.

I guess these are just tricks of Zionists too 😂

Is everything that doesn't fit in with your world view down to pesky Zionists?

In the UK, the “do something” was pass laws restricting the right to protest, jailing a few examples and carrying on as per usual because the great unwashed can’t tell their betters how to think.

oh on poll tax, they renamed it as council tax….they still did taxed.

Another poster has clearly posted evidence that what you posted is fake. I agree with the posters of Israeli hostages not being plastered all around the world. Posters are put up to find missing people. Those posters were put up to fuel a genocide . We don’t put posters up have the children Israel holds hostage in other parts of the world as it won’t help the cause . Your arguments are futile . All you’re trying to do is justify a genocide and the slaughter of children and I’m sorry but absolutely nothing you post will justify the death of a baby / child whether that baby is Palestinian or Israeli. You should be shocked by the death of a Palestinian baby as much as you are by the death of an Israeli baby and what you don’t realise is that you’re inadvertently adding to the anti Israel rhetoric !!!!

I wouldn't either. But you don't seem to believe anything from any source that contradicts you.

No the government did abolish poll tax and introduced a new tax that was much fairer.

Of course people still pay taxes on the properties they live in! There were always taxes before the poll tax and afterwards but believe me the council tax we pay now is a much fairer system than the old poll tax was.

Nothing I have posted is fake, unless you think by dismissing everything as a Zionist conspiracy makes it so

If October 7th hadn't happened, there'd be no need for the posters would there? Was it embarrassing to the cause to raise awareness that Palestinians had kidnapped a baby, a toddler and elderly people? That's why they were ripped down wasn't it

I'm not justifying anything, least of all a proscribed terrorist organisation by putting everything down to a conspiracy theory

Semantics. Council tax replaced poll tax. It was taxing residents either by head or by what property they occupy in order to fund local services.

I understand that you do condemn Hamas.

But some people feel more strongly about it than you do, like they can't get over what happened on October 7th. So as much as they express disgust at certain actions of the IDF it always comes back to that.

I think there is truth in what you say about maybe countries (or individuals) feel like if they support Palestine they are denying Israel's right to exist. You say that shouldn't be in doubt but it is in doubt, isn't it? Hamas want to eradicate Israel's right to exist. Hamas just have to be defeated in my opinion as they are pure evil.

Where have you condemned Israel and the USA for breaking the ceasefire in March? Did I miss that?

@PollyPaintsFlowers who said anything about embarrassment?

It definitely is not semantics.

You obviously don't know how the poll tax worked if you think it was just like the council tax. It wasn't. It was so unfair it got ordinary people rioting in the streets and contributed to the downfall of Margaret Thatcher.

news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/31/newsid_2530000/2530763.stm

They do have to be defeated but I really do believe it has to be at the negotiating table and not in the Battle field.

The gun has to be taken out of politics because all that is happening at the moment is another generation of angry young men is been given a reason to cause more destruction.

Take away their power by giving Palestinians a better life.

That's why I am so angry at Donald Trump sticking his beak in in such a negative way and giving Netanyahu the confidence to break the ceasefire.

I understand why people can't get over October 7th especially of a people with such a tragic history but we can't keep justifying the killing of more Innocents.

I never said it was just like council tax, I said that the government still got their way to increase taxes by replacing poll tax with council tax. The protesters originally were against poll tax and any new additional tax.

The Gov still got their way and levied more taxes.

The protesters still had to pay more tax, just under a different name.

The government had to back down and Margaret Thatcher was humiliated in a way that she could never recover from. It contributed to her downfall so the government did not get their own way.

The point is: where enough of the population really are incensed by what their government are doing, they do rise up to effect change.

Obviously a lot of people are incensed by what is happening in Israel, we see that on these threads. But there's also a big chunk of the population who feel sympathy for Israel.

You sound so idealistic ... like what you want is admirable and I would normally say the same thing about sorting differences out with words not weapons. But seriously? How can Israel negotiate with Hamas? Even before the ceasefire was broken it was not a permanent ceasefire. Hamas always intend to eradicate Israel and they did say they would attack Israel again in future.

Dear me, the Government still got their way. The Government wanted rid of Thatcher anyway by that time. It was convenient excuse.

”where enough of the population really are incensed by what their government are doing, they do rise up to effect change.”

True, in some cases, however the UK poll tax is not the example I would have picked to demonstrate that.

Hamas always intend to eradicate Israel and they did say they would attack Israel again in future. @Twiglets1

You really have to get over this idea that Hamas could eradicate Israel. You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that they could defeat one of the best equipped, best trained, army and air forces in the world. They also possess at least 90 nuclear warheads. It's not going to happen, so stop holding it up as a justification for eliminating Hamas.
There are other, better reasons for wanting the dismantling of Hamas.

@Twiglets1 Im idealistic because what's the alternative more bloodshed? I saw a video of a father hugging his dead 6 year old today she has a bobble in her hair like mine has, to think when someone tied her hair up that morning they had no idea it would be the last time . And I'm not point scoring here because I cried when I saw Yarden Bibas apologizing to his family for not protecting them . There has just been too many lives ruined.

I never thought I would see peace in Northern Ireland but there is a way forward.

No I won't get over the idea that Hamas want to eradicate Israel and are committed to keep trying.

Just because they couldn't succeed that doesn't stop them carrying out massacres on innocent Israeli citizens apparently.

I hardly need a justification for wanting to eliminate a terrorist organisation so I wouldn't call it my "justification" but it is my reason. That and the fact they treat their own people like shit so will be no loss to the Palestinians either.

That’s not a fair statement. I doubt anyone would say that if Hamas were close by and committed.