Anti Israel Rhetoric is rife. Why?

[cindyhove]

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.
why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the current 110 conflicts?
The answer is blindingly obvious

And why should they be able to enter Areas A&B? It does not belong to Israel, it is occupied territory. And how many Palestinians have the settlers and Israeli forces killed in the West Bank, A, B * C? Personally I don't know but they have killed many children in the West Bank https://www.dci-palestine.org/targeting_childhood_palestinian_children_killed_by_israeli_forces_and_settlers_in_the_occupied_west_bank

And if the numbers are too many for you to cope with, here is just a couple of examples, a 2 year old child https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_fatally_shoot_2_year_old_palestinian_girl_in_the_head_near_jenin
or this 4 year old child https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_shoot_kill_4_year_old_palestinian_girl_in_the_backseat_of_a_car

Would you want people with a track record of violently throwing your people out of their homes to come visit where you live? Look what happens when Israelis are in the West Bank, they bulldoze and burn homes even if there are people in them, they shoot a toddler dead when they are sitting at their dinner table, they perpetrat 4 violent attacks every single day! They aren't very good visitors are they especially when they refuse to leave again?

Well that was a rather large omission from Crunchyknees wasn't it? I wonder why the murder of 2 Israelis warrented a mention but the murder of 100 Palestinians didn't?

Btw the murder of anyone is awful whether Israeli or Palestinian, they should have just had the soldiers arrested until they figured out whether or not they were there to kill people and escorted them away if they were satisfied they weren't but your first paragraph reads as if you expect Palestinians to welcome any Israelis that want to drop by. My post was in response to that, of course they don't want Israelis who could be violent IDF Soldiers or violent settlers coming to visit. Why on earth would they.

As mylegishangingoff says, the Israeli illegal settlers (they have no right on the land) and the Israeli army arrive with guns and JCBs, wanting to frighten and intimidate Palestinians. In Area C, they bully the Palestinians, burning down the Bedouin tents and even going into primary schools to frighten the children. That means that parents will hesitate to send their children to school the next day. I know what that is like, the IRA exploded a bomb just next to my sons' school at 3pm! I really had to think about packing them off to school the following morning. But that was just one time - what if it is so regular to be almost continuous?

Incorrect. Lay down their arms yes, but only for ten years. They've never agreed to long term peace with Israel nor recognition of the Israeli state. They have also never changed their charter expressing their commitment to the destruction of the entire state of Israel

www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna24235665

You're equally dehumanizing of Israelis here though. A good few of IDF soldiers are young people on compulsory national service. Someone's sons and daughters.
I'd imagine they find it extremely difficult at first, then rationalize it saying they are fighting the enemy who invaded, raped and murdered last year, and to keep their nation safe. Same as any soldiers anywhere. Then the longer they are at war, the more likely the more aggressive amount them lose all reason and start committing war crimes. Again, same as any army of humans anywhere.
Both sides have dehumanized the other.

The headline they copied was from SKY News, whatever you think of Honest Reporting do you think SKY News are lying? 😂

Don't be ridiculous, this lovely specimen has been reporting from inside Gaza just within the last few days

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14574327/Israelis-not-human-beings-Jews-devils-says-journalist-used-BBCs-Arabic-channel-Gaza.html

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza

But if we ask them how they live with themselves we will be accused of dehumanising war criminals 🙄

And the massacres of the Palestinians continues.. they murder and murder and murder and murder but please don't say any meanie words or it will make them sad. Fuck the IDF

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-airstrikes-kill-more-than-30-people-in-gaza-including-more-than-a-dozen-women-and-children-13343661

How is this anything except evidence for the need for neutral journalists to be allowed access to report?

Of course a Gazan is going to be biased and of course a person under attack is going to be less than complimentary about their attackers - it’s war remember?

He works for the BBC, he needs to do his job or find a different profession. The BBC also need to do due diligence and not employ people who like you say will be naturally biased

To quote someone else, it's a war remember

He doesn’t work for the bbc, he’s submitted articles but he isn’t on their payroll.

anyway, this is just a distraction from the fact that no one else is allowed access to Gaza. If all other sources are restricted then you only leave biased resources available. Israel also release bias articles - are you as bothered about that or comfortable with your hypocrisy?

And look at it another way. Hamas have murdered multiple Palestinians who took part in the anti-Hamas protests. They murdered Palestinians who took flour that Hamas refused to distribute. Dissent is violently suppressed. What makes you think any journalist not toeing the Hamas line would be safe in Gaza? They'd be killed and Hamas would blame Israel, just like they blamed Israel for the deaths of the victims of their own misfired rockets. They've also added deaths by natural causes to the figures blamed on Israel.

It would be a suicide mission. Gaza needs to be freed from Hamas first.

Doesn't matter whether he's on the payroll or not. He's appeared on the BBC news channels and like you said submitted articles, where was the due diligence? Because again like you said, he's not an unbiased source

And if as you say the only sources there are biased, why are the BBC, ITN, SKY News, etc and people like yourself taking what they say as gospel, and letting it go unchallenged?

What qualifies you to make that decision on behalf of every journalist? Just like every aid worker who takes the decision to go into a combat zone, journalists have a drive to report information.

it’s the flimsiest of arguments to persuade people that the only truthful account is that of the government. You realise the argument about journalist safety was formulated after access was restricted.

I'm quoting myself I know, but it's meant as a continuation of what I was saying

I'm not making any decision, don't be silly. I'm just commenting on the reality

But taking your point, if it's a flimsy argument that the only truthful account is that of the government, why are you so quick to believe Hamas, they are after all the government of Gaza

So what news source do you recommend?

Let me be clear - Hamas and the Israeli government lie. They’re both liars with equally reprehensible agendas.

Why do you think that journalistic access is unimportant? What’s the problem with people taking their own decision to go into danger? Are you frightened (like the Israeli government) they will reveal without doubt that their actions are as heinous as those they profess to be fighting against?

I take anything mainstream with a pinch of salt, especially when they get their reports from the journalist I mentioned above and Al Jazeera who stage managed the hostage release 'ceremonies' I do listen to Palestinians in the West who can safely criticise Hamas without fear of repercussions. Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib's posts are a good place to start. He's scathing of Israel but also of so called Pro-Palestinians in the West who aren't actually doing anything to help Gaza but just getting their jollies by bashing Israel

Speaking of, what are you Pro-Palestinians achieving? How are you actually benefiting Gaza? Because right now they're being murdered by their own government and there's been silence from their so called supporters