Anti Israel Rhetoric is rife. Why?

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As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.
why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the current 110 conflicts?
The answer is blindingly obvious

The coverage seems quite fair to me, perhaps even bias towards Israel? news outlets report that the casualty figures are from Hamas, always mention the horrors of October and the disgraceful hostage taking and the subsequent treatment... but also report on the bombings, deaths and mutilations of civilians.

Would you rather they hide this from the public?

The conflict gets coverage precisely because of the history, the Wests arming of Israel, the closeness to Europe and last but not least, the death toll and utter destruction caused.
I believe the latest fighting has one of the highest casualty per capita ratio of any modern conflict and involves the entire movement of a population.

Well said
Perhaps we just need to keep repeating this until it sinks in that there are people criticising the IDF’s actions that are not antisemitic nor pro-Hamas
These are just ways to deflect the criticism without reflecting on why so many people are outraged by what the Israeli army has done.

Hamas didn't exist until 1987 and didn't control Gaza until 2007. Israel's actions are as responsible for Hamas controlling Gaza as Hamas are for inciting Israel's current round of killing Palestinians. That's also factual.

I think the PP was referring to Israel's occupation of Gaza preceding the formation of Hamas.

Its a small sample & the small increase in support for Hamas was only amongst Arab Israelis @TheWombatleague … hardly “garnering support” for Hamas in any meaningful way.

I think this whole thing has proved Hamas has a lot less support internationally than they believed they had. Not only have their numbers been reduced significantly by so many being killed by the IDF but they also have to face the hard fact no one is coming to their rescue.

Hamas never has much international support.
All the press interest and marches are not because people support Hamas but because they are horrified by what the IDF is doing to Palestinians. We want our governments to do something to reduce Palestinian suffering.

As people have tried to say about those who live in Israel- don’t confuse the culpability of a population with it’s leaders.

You're joking surely? They've had nobody coming to their rescue for 60 years. Hamas is growing in power in the West Bank, these things matter, not a thread on mumsnet.

Even if every single armed fighter for Hamas is killed, the conditions that led to their formation are still there - along with thousands of youths who will likely want vengeance because their families are decimated, they are homeless, and they have no future. The Muslim Brotherhood are still about as are other groups with an interest in funding conflict in the region.

The pro-Palestine marches across the West have drawn antisemites out from the shadows and hate fuelled attacks on Jews have increased.

You're deluded if you think Israel's actions are making Jews outside Israel safer or are going to stem the long term terrorist threat from the middle-east.

@Polka83 I never thought they did have much international support apart from in places like Iran and Qatar.

My response was specifically in reply to @TheWombatleague who claimed that Israel's actions under Netanyahu have made the world less safe for Jews, stirring up antisemitism and garnering support for Hamas

So what’s the point of a thread like this if you aren’t curious about the answers to your question? It’s not really a question at all then is it?

Come on ... Hamas will lose the war... no one is coming to their rescue... they are too mad & violent for other countries to want to be associated with them.

I doubt the region will look the same after the war is over, do you? Israel will not risk another Hamas rising from the ashes.

That's genocide in the West Bank next then is it?

No one is going to win or lose this war until there is a proper two state solution and I cannot see that happening in my lifetime sadly.

This is not something I want to see but I wouldn't be surprised to see an Israeli annexation of the West Bank, with Trump's support.

Hamas are proxies for Iran, who are financing them.

Probably as a distraction from the video that contradicts Israel's version of the killing of 15 medics surfacing.

They already are.

I would expect to see the annexation process completed.

Anyway, that's just my opinion seeing as you ask about the West Bank.

Israel will not risk another Hamas rising from the ashes

there’s only one way to attempt that isn’t there? Genocide.

I think Israel underestimate the Islamic world. They may not want to be associated with this conflict but Israel manufacturing generations of martyrs isn’t going to guarantee peace in the future. If anything the direct opposite.

I don't know.

It's very clear that Hamas underestimated Israel.

Whether Israel in turn underestimates the Islamic world, time will tell.

Quite. The West had an easier task of wiping out Al-Queda and managed to capture or kill almost all its leaders and fighters. They simply didn't have the time to put structures in place for rebuilding before they were decimated.

Fast forward to 2025 and Al-Queda, according to U.N. reports aren't gone and the group’s activities are intensifying not just in Afghanistan, but globally as well. The group’s sustained ties with the Taliban and their leaders’ strategic return to Afghanistan are an advancement — not a decline. While top al-Qaeda figures are also calling for renewed jihad in Sudan, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb is simultaneously targeting nations like Morocco with new propaganda campaigns.

They're in Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt.

Hamas have now said it themselves. Are they lying? https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-848592

It’s foolish of Israel to ignore the evidence of very recent history as well as the history of their own ancestors. Judaism and Zionism weren’t wiped out despite multiple events throughout centuries including the horrors of WWII. I can’t see anything but a future of further vengeance brought about by the actions of the Israeli government.

the only hope for generational peace is to raise all victims of Hamas out of their hopelessness and offer a path that truly leads to peace. One that is theirs guaranteed with no threat of having it taken away without warning.

That says 72% are male and the age of combatants (which is described as 13-55 years old so very broad) not that they are male combatants.

The PP said that percentage were male combatants rather than men of male combatant age which is incorrect I think?

Incorrect. See below.

Considering how much Hamas lies, as in most of the victims aren't women and children, but men of fighting age, I'm happy to assume they're combatants. Unless you can prove their innocence?

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