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Conflict in the Middle East

Anti Israel Rhetoric is rife. Why?

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cindyhove · 05/04/2025 14:19

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.
why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the current 110 conflicts?
The answer is blindingly obvious

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Wildflowers99 · 06/04/2025 10:16

Kakeandkake · 06/04/2025 08:35

See, this is another thing I find really strange. Those who are broadly pro-Palestinian will accept blame lies on both sides. But for some strange reason which I can't fathom so many like the poster above verysmellyjelly absolve Israel of all blame even though it's Israel that are throwing two thousand pound bombs on schools and hospitals. It's all really odd.

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I’m happy to blame Israel for any crimes it has committed which violate international law and I also think Netanyahu needs to face thorough investigation/trial.

I also think Israel is validated in its existence, that they have a right to defend themselves, that antisemitism props up a LOT of the pro-Palestinian cause in the UK/West, and that allowing Hamas to form a government and create yet another Sharia country which is a threat to the UK is a terrible idea.

Wildflowers99 · 06/04/2025 10:17

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:16

The UK government gives financial and arms funding to hundreds of countries. Why the focus JUST on israel?

Antisemitism. It’s also become a trendy ‘cause’ for the liberal left who don’t realise they’re advocating for a Sharia state which is the opposite of everything they purport to believe in.

Zonder · 06/04/2025 10:19

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:16

The UK government gives financial and arms funding to hundreds of countries. Why the focus JUST on israel?

You have extreme tunnel vision if you believe the focus is just on Israel. To an almost narcissistic level.

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:21

Zonder · 06/04/2025 10:19

You have extreme tunnel vision if you believe the focus is just on Israel. To an almost narcissistic level.

No tunnel vision at all. Look at the news coverage in any given week. And as for narcissistic? Get a grip!

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whathaveiforgotten · 06/04/2025 10:24

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:16

The UK government gives financial and arms funding to hundreds of countries. Why the focus JUST on israel?

In February 2003 around 1.5 million people protested against our involvement in the Iraq war.

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:25

whathaveiforgotten · 06/04/2025 10:24

In February 2003 around 1.5 million people protested against our involvement in the Iraq war.

Oh you’re right. There was ONE other time. Apologies

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cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:27

And for those who say Israeli targets women:
just one example of why

Palestinians are mourning the death of journalist Islam Mekdad last night in Khan Yunis.

It is important to note that she was killed in an attack on the Abd al-Hadi family home in the Amal neighborhood of Khan Yunis - which was actually a weapons cache 👆👆This is evidenced by the secondary explosions.

It's not wise to go to sleep on a stockpile of weapons...

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Kakeandkake · 06/04/2025 10:30

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:08

To keep the Muslim vote?

This is hilarious 😂

Kakeandkake · 06/04/2025 10:31

Zonder · 06/04/2025 10:19

You have extreme tunnel vision if you believe the focus is just on Israel. To an almost narcissistic level.

Definitely.

Whatthewhatwhatwhat · 06/04/2025 10:34

Wildflowers99 · 06/04/2025 10:17

Antisemitism. It’s also become a trendy ‘cause’ for the liberal left who don’t realise they’re advocating for a Sharia state which is the opposite of everything they purport to believe in.

If it’s antisemitism, what do you say about the Jews (like me) who are vocal against Israel’s actions, including rabbis and Holocaust survivors? Are they antisemitic?

No one I know is advocating for a sharia state. They are advocating for Palestinians to not be killed. Beggars belief that you think this is about being ‘trendy’. It’s about life and death.

whathaveiforgotten · 06/04/2025 10:39

I don’t believe there is anything anyone can say to you @cindyhovethat will make you believe their thoughts and feelings on this subject are a result of anything other than antisemitism. I’m unsure therefore how useful it is to ask people to share their thoughts and feelings. It seems rather futile.

If you’re really honest with yourself, will you always believe that no matter what people tell you there is an element of underlying antisemitism to their criticism of Israel’s actions?

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 10:44

Whatthewhatwhatwhat · 06/04/2025 10:34

If it’s antisemitism, what do you say about the Jews (like me) who are vocal against Israel’s actions, including rabbis and Holocaust survivors? Are they antisemitic?

No one I know is advocating for a sharia state. They are advocating for Palestinians to not be killed. Beggars belief that you think this is about being ‘trendy’. It’s about life and death.

I don’t think anyone on this thread is saying that everyone who is vocal against Israel is doing it because of antisemitism. But many people are.

CrunchyKnees · 06/04/2025 10:46

KrisAkabusi · 06/04/2025 00:43

Is there video showing clearly lit and marked ambulances containing UN staff and other aid workers being targeted in other countries? Have army spokespeople in other countries lied and said that they were travelling with their lights off and were acting suspiciously?
Or could it be that its not anything to with being anti Israeli or anti semitic, but that people are appalled at the actions so close to home, by a country that their own governments considers an ally?

I’m sure plenty of Armies have lied and made mistakes in the trauma and horror of war, you’d rarely hear about it though, if at all, as most wars, if any at all, have not had such close scrutinisation with smart phones filming every thing as it happens with the aggressor pushing the narrative of war crimes, war crimes, at every opportunity they get.

Let alone while the war is actually taking place.

With the MSM rushing to report on everything they’re told, by a designated terrorist organisation, who actually filmed themselves taking part in outrageous and unimaginable evil atrocities against their opponents.

Not forgetting the massive propaganda campaign set up BEFORE the terrorist organisation deliberately started the war to push that narrative.

Also not forgetting that one side has been demonstrably vilified for years for having to put security measures in place to protect its citizens from constant terrorist attacks caused by organisations (not only Hamas) who only care about trying to annihilate them and have been very vocal about that.

Have other countries had their opponents hide behind their own civilians, publicly stating they need their blood for the cause? Deliberately making absolutely no attempt to protect their civilians from a war it deliberately brought to them?

In fact, the opponents leave them try to minimise civilian casualties by warning them and evacuating them.

Opponents who pretend to be medical staff, journalists, UN social workers and teachers etc? Who have bases in hospitals, schools, refugee camps, etc?

Who only wear clearly distinct uniforms when they are parading the coffins of dead babies, mothers, and elderly people that they have murdered with their bare hands and held their bodies hostage for over a year?

Have you known of any other wars where hundreds of civilians have been held hostage including babies, children and the elderly and their posters have been ripped down by people who support those who kidnapped them?

Any other wars where civilians have kept their opponents civilian hostages in their homes?

Any other countries who have had to provide water, electricity and WiFi to their opponents during a war their opponents started?

I think you’ll find this circumstance of warfare is unprecedented.

The IDF have said that at least 6 of the ‘medics’ killed in the ambulances were immediately identified as Hamas.

Why aren’t you up in arms about Hamas using ambulances as cover and causing the deaths of innocent medical staff ?

The IDF said they covered the bodies to prevent wild animals getting to them and immediately informed the UN where they were for collection.

I’d believe them over a monstrous terrorist organisation, and the civilians who participated in, the atrocities of Oct 7th anyday of the week.

The only reason this war is being scrutinised as it is, and discussed from a false narrative, IS due to the insidious global hatred of the Jewish people.

Absolutely no way would any other country, other than the world’s only Jewish state, be forced to put on a special screening for journalists to prove atrocities had taken place that the monsters who committed them had already live streamed themselves.

Absolutely no way would hundreds of thousands of people worldwide IMMEDIATELY march and protest in support of an evil terrorist regime, who cut off women’s breasts while gang raping them and filmed themselves hacking off someone’s head with a garden implement, took babies hostage, filmed their civilians spitting on the naked dead body of a young woman while parading her (and holding her by the hair) through the streets, filmed themselves dragging other bodies through the streets on the back of motorcycles etc, etc, if the country they committed those atrocities on wasn’t the world’s only Jewish state.

I mean come on, think about it.

You don’t have to be Jewish to stand up for Israel, you just have to have critical thinking skills.

Now I’m off to prepare food for a belated Eid BBQ with Muslim family and friends.

Whatthewhatwhatwhat · 06/04/2025 10:51

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 10:44

I don’t think anyone on this thread is saying that everyone who is vocal against Israel is doing it because of antisemitism. But many people are.

I don’t think that’s true. It’s clear in this thread (and in life) that lots of Israel supporters are laser-focused on antisemitism being the driving force of advocates for Palestine. Of course there are antisemites among them. But in my view (and in my experience) most people are driven by disgust at the scale of death and destruction.

This obsession with antisemitism is a large-scale defence against reality – the fact that Israel is behaving in a clearly indefensible manner. It’s too painful to face this reality, so people become fixated on antisemitism instead.

Swiftie1878 · 06/04/2025 10:51

cindyhove · 06/04/2025 10:07

My OP was about the amount of coverage/marches/anti israel rhetoric compared to every other conflict

Yep. It’s because of people like you who refuse to acknowledge any misgivings about Israel’s actions since the October attack.
If everyone could just call a spade a spade, we’d all be better placed to find a solution.

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:52

Workhardcryharder · 06/04/2025 09:54

Ideally not go and murder other equally innocent babies..?

Do you think the babies and children who died during the bombings of Germany by allied forces were “murdered”? Or are you just using inflammatory language in this specific instance because it happens to be the sole Jewish state that’s at war.

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:53

Swiftie1878 · 06/04/2025 10:51

Yep. It’s because of people like you who refuse to acknowledge any misgivings about Israel’s actions since the October attack.
If everyone could just call a spade a spade, we’d all be better placed to find a solution.

Israel has a right to defend itself. If you can’t acknowledge this then it’s impossible to have a meaningful discussion.

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:56

Whatthewhatwhatwhat · 06/04/2025 10:51

I don’t think that’s true. It’s clear in this thread (and in life) that lots of Israel supporters are laser-focused on antisemitism being the driving force of advocates for Palestine. Of course there are antisemites among them. But in my view (and in my experience) most people are driven by disgust at the scale of death and destruction.

This obsession with antisemitism is a large-scale defence against reality – the fact that Israel is behaving in a clearly indefensible manner. It’s too painful to face this reality, so people become fixated on antisemitism instead.

Of course people aren’t going to come out and say “yes, I’m anti-Semitic and I’ve also swallowed the Hamas propaganda wholesale!” But ultimately people who are attacking Israel are engaging in anti Jewish hatred and using the exact same tropes and techniques that have been employed for centuries. If they weren’t, they’d offer more reasonable arguments. Where a reasonable argument is given (for example, criticising the IDF committing a war crime), people who support the state of Israel overwhelmingly are willing to condemn specific actions and tragic occasions of brutality.

Cornettoninja · 06/04/2025 10:56

I’m as anti-semitic about Isreal as I was/am unpatriotic about Britains invasion of Iraq.

I can see what’s right and what’s wrong. I’m not going to be bullied by name calling for saying what I see.

CrunchyKnees · 06/04/2025 10:57

whathaveiforgotten · 06/04/2025 10:24

In February 2003 around 1.5 million people protested against our involvement in the Iraq war.

Totally incomparable situation. Iraq had not deliberately started a war by invading and carrying out a frenzied orgy of rape, murder and pillage against thousands of civilians of a neighbouring country, or taken hundreds of them hostage.

Some of the victims British citizens.

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:57

Also, the fact that anyone would describe a country as behaving in a “clearly indefensible manner” when responding to a terrorist atrocity reveals the inherent bias. This is why people are pointing out antisemitism.

Swiftie1878 · 06/04/2025 10:58

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:53

Israel has a right to defend itself. If you can’t acknowledge this then it’s impossible to have a meaningful discussion.

It does. But what they are doing goes way beyond that, and if YOU can’t acknowledge that then it’s impossible to have a meaningful discussion.

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:58

Cornettoninja · 06/04/2025 10:56

I’m as anti-semitic about Isreal as I was/am unpatriotic about Britains invasion of Iraq.

I can see what’s right and what’s wrong. I’m not going to be bullied by name calling for saying what I see.

So you think Israel should just let their citizens be raped, brutalised and murdered? Hamas wants the total extinction of all Jews.

verysmellyjelly · 06/04/2025 10:59

Swiftie1878 · 06/04/2025 10:58

It does. But what they are doing goes way beyond that, and if YOU can’t acknowledge that then it’s impossible to have a meaningful discussion.

Hamas wants the total extinction of all Jews. When you pretend that they are not an opponent that fundamentally threatens Israel’s existence and security, and the safety of Israel’s innocent citizens, you are unintentionally collaborating with their massiv propaganda operation. I’m not even blaming you; many people unwittingly do this. Hamas does not care about the Palestinians. They care about exterminating Jews.

Kakeandkake · 06/04/2025 11:00

Swiftie1878 · 06/04/2025 10:51

Yep. It’s because of people like you who refuse to acknowledge any misgivings about Israel’s actions since the October attack.
If everyone could just call a spade a spade, we’d all be better placed to find a solution.

You are right, but some people are so ingrained in their defence for Israel's indefensible actions, that they refuse to see it.

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