Anti Israel Rhetoric is rife. Why?

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As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.
why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the current 110 conflicts?
The answer is blindingly obvious

Which war or military operation has ever been done decently?

Once again, well said. The world was a mess post-WW2 but somehow people expect Israelis to pay for the actions of their parents and grandparents in a way no other country try is expected

I said more decent. This is just back to the same argument of "well it's ok because they did bad stuff too". More decent would be less of this

In an ideal world the IDF would turn up at the house of guaranteed Hamas murderers and take them and only them and no one else. In reality when Hamas use their own people as human shields, it’s either 1. Let them get away with it and no doubt strike again to spare civilian lives or 2. Accept that civilian lives are lost in war and Hamas are ENTIRELY to blame for Palestinian deaths when they behave like cowards and hive behind children

https://news.sky.com/story/new-video-undermines-israels-account-of-aid-worker-deaths-and-suggests-cover-up-somewhere-along-chain-13342615

Link to Sky News

As a PP said there are no doubt war crimes happening from IDF members. But this is not exclusive to Israel. Our own military mistreated countless Iraqis and murdered innocent civilians. Whilst there was protests against the invasion (which I am staunchly proud of being part of) nobody decried it like they do the IDF soldiers

I wonder if would alarm people to read who the British treated German POWs in WW2. Or if they’d just be massive hypocrites and still buy a poppy whilst shouting “war criminals” about Israel

Well, Israel wasn't invaded by Palestinians, it was the victim of a terrorist attack by a terrorist group which was allowed to take root in Gaza.

The British have suffered at the hands of terrorist attacks from zionist terrorist groups. The threat of terror attacks by zionist groups across Europe was also very real. We didn't respond by flattening the region in a holy war/genocide against Jews. Which is absolutely what Netanyahu is doing to Palestinians in Gaza.

If you're concerned about naivety, I'd suggest there's nothing as naive as not being aware of the increasing weaponisation of the term antisemitism as a means of silencing criticism of Israel. It does nothing to make the lives of Jews outside Israel safer it simply operates as cover for a State that consistently operates outside of International law.

I see all these organisation are lying then? They must be all anti-Semitic right?
Several organizations have reported that Israel is obstructing the delivery of humanitarian aid to Gaza. Notable among these are:
• ActionAid International: Highlighted that lifesaving food, medicine, medical supplies, fuel, and tents have been systematically blocked from entering Gaza for almost a year.
• Save the Children: Reported that 83% of required food aid does not make it into Gaza, leading to severe hunger and malnutrition among children.
• CARE International: Emphasized that the situation in Gaza is beyond catastrophic due to aid obstruction.
• Oxfam: As part of a coalition, called for an end to systematic aid obstruction in Gaza.
• Norwegian Refugee Council: Warned that blocking aid to Gaza would push its civilian population beyond collapse.

These organizations, among others, have collectively demanded international pressure for an immediate ceasefire, arms embargo, and an end to Israel’s systematic obstruction of aid to Gaza.

Pro-Israel supporters are ignorant and can’t be bothered to research basic facts: Discuss!

Being treated in a hospital is not using civilians as a human shield. Sending an old man ahead when investigating a tunnel is.

You don't weaken support for terrorist groups by slaughtering women and children.

2.000 year old conflict.

Horrible people doing horrible things on both sides.

Everyone needs to stop shooting and bombing everyone else.

’Who started it?’ and ‘Who is worse?’ gets nobody anywhere.

There is real anti-Semitism and Islamophobia in the world. Most legitimate commentary on the conflict is neither.

Ah and it didn’t take long - people saying Zionist when they mean Jew

What nationality are Hamas if not Gazan/Palestinan?

And what’s wrong with Zionism? Where are the terror attacks please?

Exactly. It’s basically impossible for anyone to act with complete decency in war, the enemy is so cunning and underhand. This fantasy about an elite Israeli force somehow pulling off an operation where only Hamas members are harmed is a total fantasy.

This, exactly. Individual soldiers in the British and US armies have committed war crimes but it isn't turned around into hatred of the armies/ countries as a whole. I know a lot of people who are either in the IDF or have been in the past and they are all good people who certainly aren't committing " genocide". It is so easy to see how the holocaust happened now, looking at people's responses to Israel defending it's citizens. If Islamist terrorist organisations can get seemingly left wing British housewives and students(!) to sympathise with them then I can also see how regular seeming German people supported the Nazis. What is it about being Jewish that people hate so much?

The only genocide that may happen is the one that would if Israel laid down it's arms. It's surrounded by Muslim states with different terrorist groups funded by Iran. What would you have them do? They can't continue with this threat on their border. The border securities before October 7th were there because Palestinians keep blowing themselves up/ stabbing people/ other terrorist act etc..not because Israel wanted to " blockade" Gaza. There is a reason why there were strict controls.

Right so terrorists should be left alone as long as they sit in a hospital? That makes them totally harmless?

What about the women and children raped and slaughtered on October 7th? What do you think of that?

Yep!! The standards for the IDF are high to a level of delusion that is not expected elsewhere

Most pro-Israel supporters are ignorant and can’t research basic facts when it is all in easy reach! Why is there no shame attached to being so very uneducated?

I don't suppose Israel's version of Panorama would have been allowed to air a documentary highlighting those abuses though, as we did with Afghanistan.

I don't think that expecting an army not to have a policy of targeting aid workers and journalists is holding them to a higher standard.

So two wrongs make a right ?

Or expecting them not to cut off aid to every single in person in Gaza for over a month.

Israel is an extremely liberal and democratic country - let’s not forget the only one in the ME. They have freedom of the press, plenty of journalists speak out against Netenyahu - so I don’t know what you’re banging on about TBH.

What do you think happens to Palestinians who speak out against Hamas?

This just reinforces my point that “I’m anti-Zionist” is just thinly veiled Jew hating and it’s always follows fake news with a peppering on antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Concidentally what is Israeli’s version of Panorama?

Do you REALLY think Israel wouldn’t report on British war crimes in the ME?

This issue is an absolute shit show. October 7th was awful but the subsequent bloodbath on civilians in Palestine is also awful.

I guess the questions I have for those on either side of this are;

Does Israel have a right to exist?
Do Israelis have a right to exist?

Does Palestine have a right to exist?
Do Palestinians have a right to exist?

Until both sides can answer yes to all four of those questions nothing will ever change and babies and children will continue to be killed. Regardless of what you think of their parents, surely we can all agree that children and babies don't deserve any of this.

The Israeli army need to ensure aid workers are killed so that aid workers stop entering Gaza to help Palestinians. The Israeli army need to target hospitals to ensure injured Palestinians can't seek medical help. The Palestinians are being eradicated regardless of where Hamas are situated. Once Gaza is cleared, a reason for clearing the west bank will be found and so it goes on until every last Palestinian is removed from israel.

Here is one of the prisoners who has been held under Administrative Detention en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahed_Tamimi