BBC documentary - children of Gaza

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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/feb/17/gaza-how-to-survive-a-warzone-review-these-incredible-children-offer-a-sliver-of-hope

Did anyone see this last night? Heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.

Terrible atrocities by both sides.

You're glitching.

Apologies I chose the word ridiculous for the pantomime and charade that Hamas instigated for such a serious and important event

Grooming child soldiers is also an atrocity but if they are one of the 38000 children (latest figures available) that have had their parents murdered by Israel surely it follows they are more likely to be vulnerable to grooming by terrorists.

Sure, but when you are watching the documentary, it is probably worth knowing that Hamas are controlling the narrative.

I read a thread on twitter about the inconsistencies and stuff with one of the boys. I don't think this docu should air anymore as it was all lies!

Perhaps people would be happy if the child used to narrate was swapped for another.
Then we could see the horrors of life for these children in Gaza
Or would it all still be lies because
what
Are they living a good life as some posters suggest.
perhaps turn down the volume and watch

It was all lies?

I thought it was just one child there was an issue with.

I didn't realize all of the children were linked to Hamas.

Agree

But many will never be happy at any attempt to humanize Palestinians and will always call it propaganda or a Hamas narrative because once they see the Palestinians as humans, in good conscience they could not justify the lives those children are living or the end an 80 year old man came too at the hands of Israel and the IDF

For those that live in their own little bubble and prefer not to look …. They really do think it’s all lies.

@Martymcfly24 if that happened then it is absolutely appalling and the killings should be investigated and the perpetrators punished.

As both-siding seems to be permitted, you’ve seen & posted etc footage of Hamas knee-capping, beating and executing Gazans for either speaking against them or stealing aid (as they like to do that themselves)?

As sources go, I trust Al-Jezeera less than the BBC 🤷🏻‍♀️

Not sure where this “they don’t think of Palestinians as human” narrative comes from. I absolutely do. I can see what Gaza has become and have read how many have been killed, injured, orphaned, displaced. All of that was inevitable after 7/10. The Gazan people were offered safe passage out of Gaza & $5 million for information that lead to the release of hostages. No-one accepted the offer. It’s possible to have sympathy and empathy for people and still call out their behaviour (and that does apply to both sides).

Nothing is going to improve in the short term. More people are going to die and everyone knows the start point of this particular war which is what we’re dealing with.

Nobody should need a documentary to know how awful life is in Gaza. It should be pretty self-evident. The whole point is the lack of due diligence and bias shown by our national broadcaster who should be a beacon of impartiality while it delivers Rolls Royce journalistic standards. That’s the point.

The narrator is the child of a prominent Hamas terrorist. Another child featured in the show you can see carrying a gun in the photo with another Hamas terrorist.

That’s why people are talking about Hamas propaganda and why it has been pulled from iplayer. People seem to be forgetting that Hamas are a proscribed terrorist group and there are rules around dealing with them.

I want to state again I will never support Hamas or their actions towards Israelis or Gazans.

But a documentary is needed, we have had numerous posts on threads here about the Health Ministry lying about deaths, about Gazans having plenty of food and that things are not that bad.

As regards not taking the offer for the hostages why would Gazans trust a government that dropped leaflets on them recently saying.

"No one will feel for you, and no one will ask about you. You have been left alone to face your inevitable fate"

''Neither America nor Europe care about Gaza in any way. Even your Arab countries, which are now our allies, provide us with money and weapons while sending you only shrouds."

That is not a government I would trust to give me safe passage and knowing I was leaving my family in a country where Hamas would exact their own revenge on them.

But a documentary is needed

Indeed, therefore it is extremely frustrating that the BBC dropped the ball so badly.

We are definitely in agreement there.

It is understandable when high emotions are involved that people are not willing or capable of seeing things as they truly are. Many live in an echo chamber and label anything from the other side as lies and propaganda. They are so sure of this in their own minds as they are so emotionally charged. It's understandable but it's not right.

It is clear your emotions are blinding you to what other people are acutally saying because nobody here is expressing support for a proscribed terrorist organisation.
And yes we do know what proscribed means.

We're talking about a documentary, and the issue with the documentary being the Hamas links to the people featured in the documentary.

What are you talking about?

I am talking about you accusing me of expressing support for a proscribed terrorist organisation.

And that was because your post during a discussion about a documentary which has been removed from iPlayer because of the links between the people featured in the documentary and Hamas said "Many live in an echo chamber and label anything from the other side as lies and propaganda."

Given that we're in a discussion where the thing being labelled as lies and propaganda is the documentary in question and the 'other side' are Hamas, are you suggesting that it is wrong to label the narrative from Hamas as propaganda?

Or did you have a different 'other side' in mind, when you were suggesting that labelling things coming from them as lies and propaganda was due to closed-mindedness?

Because your post seemed to be deliberately coy about the details.

@noblegiraffe perhaps (and I could be wrong )the poster meant that any information regarding Gaza in a sympathetic light is treated with suspicion here. Al Jazeera, the Guardian, Middle East Eye, social media commentators etc .
It does not necessarily have to be information/ propaganda that is direct from Hamas that is seen as untrustworthy.

And yet we are specifically on a thread about a documentary that is being seen as untrustworthy because of its links to Hamas.

Actually life in Gaza doesn't look too bad from the tv footage I have seen... young and old alike are managing to all look extremely well fed and full of energy, joy and vitality during their gleeful demonstrations of joy during their family street parties to celebrate the murder (with bare hands) and subsequent stoning of the tiny dead Israeli babies to try to cover up what they have done, the slaughter of innocent men, women and elderly holocaust survivors (one of whom was a well known peace activist who devoted his life to transporting unwell Gazans across the border for medical treatment in Israel) as their coffins are handed back to Israel.

The only starving, malnourished looking ones are the released innocent Israeli hostages (the ones being swapped for hundreds of convicted Palestinian rapists and murderers.)

Lol if that's the case how did one linked to Hamas squeeze in to a documentary?! They knew what they were doing.

BBC need to try again.