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BBC documentary - children of Gaza

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SmokeRingsOfMyMind · 18/02/2025 20:55

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/feb/17/gaza-how-to-survive-a-warzone-review-these-incredible-children-offer-a-sliver-of-hope

Did anyone see this last night? Heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.

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Whatiswrongwithme1234 · 19/02/2025 02:07

A 10 year old child..

Is he less human because he is a certain ethnicity?

Is he less human if his family have affiliations?

Let's not dehumanise anyone. Please do not try to account for / explain why / excuse ANY child that is suffering.

Was nothing learnt from the holocaust?

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 06:48

Absolutely unbelievable that people can't see the problem with such blatant lies at the heart of the documentary. If they lie about such things how can you trust anything they say? And do you not question why such layers of deceit are in the production? Who knew what, when?

israelilefty · 19/02/2025 06:54

Whatiswrongwithme1234 · 19/02/2025 02:07

A 10 year old child..

Is he less human because he is a certain ethnicity?

Is he less human if his family have affiliations?

Let's not dehumanise anyone. Please do not try to account for / explain why / excuse ANY child that is suffering.

Was nothing learnt from the holocaust?

The point is not to dehumanise any child or to minimise their suffering. Nobody is criticising the child himself - just the BBC's misguided decision to have this particular child narrate the documentary.

The point is that the BBC is supposed to be a beacon of independent journalism, which means not serving the interests of a government, corporation or other party. We rely on journalists for trustworthy information about events we cannot experience or assess first hand, and therefore we rely that they will do due diligence in background checks. This means not being manipulated into presenting the child of a government minister as though they were just a random kid on the street. We know kids' ways of narrating events around them echo the words of the adults in their company (trust me, the fact that my kid regularly states that "we need to change the government" is not an independent opinion he came to based on his life experience of policy). The BBC is one of the world's major trusted news sources, and as such, it is their duty to produce credible content which we can trust to be independent of political or commercial interests. If the information presented in the investigation is correct, the BBC has fallen short of the standards we would expect of independent journalism.

mids2019 · 19/02/2025 07:01

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14411151/bbc-hamas-propaganda-new-documentary.html

BBC naivety I think. Poor journalism and undermines BBC credibility.

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:06

mids2019 · 19/02/2025 07:01

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14411151/bbc-hamas-propaganda-new-documentary.html

BBC naivety I think. Poor journalism and undermines BBC credibility.

There's no room for naivety in one of the world's most respected news organisations. If that's the excuse then a lot of heads need to roll. Why are naive people making editorial decisions on the world's most contested conflict?

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:07

Stop murdering journalists and allow the foreign press into Gaza and we will see independent witnesses to what's happening.

This conflict has caused the most child amputees in modern history and there are 17000 orphans in Gaza. There is no need to use a child with links to Hamas to tell the story of the horror children are currently facing there.

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:16

The more honest film would have been to show how the life of the son of a Hamas government minister was different to the life of the child of an ordinary Gazan.

crumblingschools · 19/02/2025 07:17

Weren’t other children included in the documentary?

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:22

crumblingschools · 19/02/2025 07:17

Weren’t other children included in the documentary?

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I have no idea. What is the relevance if they were?

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:28

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:16

The more honest film would have been to show how the life of the son of a Hamas government minister was different to the life of the child of an ordinary Gazan.

And who is going to film that when a Press Jacket is seen as a target by the IDF.
(202 journalists killed the most deadly conflict for journalists)

It can't be both ways here. No independent press safely allowed to work and then complaining when Hamas led information becomes a documentary.

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:33

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:28

And who is going to film that when a Press Jacket is seen as a target by the IDF.
(202 journalists killed the most deadly conflict for journalists)

It can't be both ways here. No independent press safely allowed to work and then complaining when Hamas led information becomes a documentary.

Then you make a film honestly saying the only way you can do this is with permission from Hamas, using a child who is the son of a government minister. You seem to be missing the point that the cameraman was IN gaza, directed from London. The cameraman could have been fully vetted and used non-Hamas people. I mean, ordinary Palestinians are not Hamas and Hamas are easy to identify so how can it be difficult?

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:37

By the way can I ask has this been proven by another source because in the article by the Daily Mail they are unable to prove David Colliers (an investigative journalist specializing in anti semitism) who used Facebook to back his claims that the boy is the son of the agricultural minister.
These claims are also backed by a former BBC director Danny Cohen who has also hit out at the BBC because of their coverage of Israeli hostages.
Note I am not saying that I do not believe the Daily Mail but is this definitely true or a way to distract from the terrible truth of children's lives in Gaza.

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:46

Fair enough, people should have been told of his connection to the minister of agriculture if that is proven.. It appears lots of other children were used based on the article in OP.( I have no access to the BbC iPlayer)

This does not negate their experiences and they need to have their stories told.

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:55

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:46

Fair enough, people should have been told of his connection to the minister of agriculture if that is proven.. It appears lots of other children were used based on the article in OP.( I have no access to the BbC iPlayer)

This does not negate their experiences and they need to have their stories told.

I dont think we know yet whether it negates what has been shown. We need to know whose story is being told and how.

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:56

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 07:37

By the way can I ask has this been proven by another source because in the article by the Daily Mail they are unable to prove David Colliers (an investigative journalist specializing in anti semitism) who used Facebook to back his claims that the boy is the son of the agricultural minister.
These claims are also backed by a former BBC director Danny Cohen who has also hit out at the BBC because of their coverage of Israeli hostages.
Note I am not saying that I do not believe the Daily Mail but is this definitely true or a way to distract from the terrible truth of children's lives in Gaza.

No, as is clear in the posts, its an allegation only just made. Nothing has yet been proven.

VolcanoJapan · 19/02/2025 07:57

"Last night, the former director of BBC Television Danny Cohen said: 'The BBC appears to have given an hour of prime-time coverage to the son of a senior member of the Hamas terrorist group.

'Either they were not aware of the terrorist links because they did not carry out the most basic journalistic checks or the BBC did know and misled audiences about the family's deep involvement with terrorism.'"

Martymcfly24 · 19/02/2025 08:03

VolcanoJapan · 19/02/2025 07:57

"Last night, the former director of BBC Television Danny Cohen said: 'The BBC appears to have given an hour of prime-time coverage to the son of a senior member of the Hamas terrorist group.

'Either they were not aware of the terrorist links because they did not carry out the most basic journalistic checks or the BBC did know and misled audiences about the family's deep involvement with terrorism.'"

If it is proven to be true.
As pp said this is just an allegation at this stage.

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 08:04

A very serious one that the BBC should be able to rapidly refute if thete is no truth to it.

Polka83 · 19/02/2025 08:21

The story about the little boy Zakaria sounds amazing. How he wants to be a paramedic.
Isnt it hopeful that he has not succumbed to the situation he finds himself but is resilient and positive. We can only but imagine what it’s like for children to live in tents freezing cold, hungry, family killed and deeply traumatised. But to find survie this and want to help others - that’s remarkable.

« Everyone working at the hospital knows the boy. He is, of course, still a child and not a qualified medic but he is always hanging around, waiting for an opportunity to help someone, in the hope he might receive some food or money in return.
Sometimes he helps carry equipment for local journalists, other times stretchers with people injured or dying.
When there is a quiet moment he helps clean the blood and dirt from the ambulances.
There is no school for him to go to and he is the only person in his family making any money. He doesn't stay with them as they have little food or water, he says, and instead lives on his own at the hospital and sleeps where he can. One night it's in the CT scan room, another in the journalists' tent or the back of an ambulance.
There were plenty of nights he fell asleep hungry.
As much as they try, hospital staff can't keep him away from the chaos of caring for casualties.
Zakaria idolises the paramedics and wants to be considered part of the team. One of them, Said, takes him under his wing. Whenever he treats Zakaria as a child, he says, the boy gets upset.
«

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7ndlrl3vo.amp

crumblingschools · 19/02/2025 08:25

The programme is described as following 4 young people, do they all have links to Hamas?

Maybe if Israel let all journalists into Gaza it would be easier to get a true picture of what is going on. Why are they blocking them?

Liv999 · 19/02/2025 08:29

If Israel had let journalists into Gaza then there would be no "propaganda"

Liv999 · 19/02/2025 08:29

crumblingschools · 19/02/2025 08:25

The programme is described as following 4 young people, do they all have links to Hamas?

Maybe if Israel let all journalists into Gaza it would be easier to get a true picture of what is going on. Why are they blocking them?

Why indeed

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/02/2025 08:29

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/02/2025 23:06

Why does it matter who his family voted for?

He’s 10.

I thought it was notable that most people had no time for Hamas. The 10 year old boy 'helping' the paramedics hated them. The woman who had the baby thought they were OK at first but has now changed her mind. Renad was worried the Iranian rockets would extend the war by another year.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/02/2025 08:34

Polka83 · 19/02/2025 08:21

The story about the little boy Zakaria sounds amazing. How he wants to be a paramedic.
Isnt it hopeful that he has not succumbed to the situation he finds himself but is resilient and positive. We can only but imagine what it’s like for children to live in tents freezing cold, hungry, family killed and deeply traumatised. But to find survie this and want to help others - that’s remarkable.

« Everyone working at the hospital knows the boy. He is, of course, still a child and not a qualified medic but he is always hanging around, waiting for an opportunity to help someone, in the hope he might receive some food or money in return.
Sometimes he helps carry equipment for local journalists, other times stretchers with people injured or dying.
When there is a quiet moment he helps clean the blood and dirt from the ambulances.
There is no school for him to go to and he is the only person in his family making any money. He doesn't stay with them as they have little food or water, he says, and instead lives on his own at the hospital and sleeps where he can. One night it's in the CT scan room, another in the journalists' tent or the back of an ambulance.
There were plenty of nights he fell asleep hungry.
As much as they try, hospital staff can't keep him away from the chaos of caring for casualties.
Zakaria idolises the paramedics and wants to be considered part of the team. One of them, Said, takes him under his wing. Whenever he treats Zakaria as a child, he says, the boy gets upset.
«

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7ndlrl3vo.amp

The paramedic who he had befriended was worried about what would happen to him when the war is over. He said he could never go back to being a child again. It was very distressing. When Zakaria went to visit his parents his Dad seemed completely blank like he was in shock although he had apparently been a school principal. I think he must have had PTSD. Some of the other people living in tents had made them as cosy and homely as possible but theirs looked bleak.

Kendodd · 19/02/2025 08:54

SharonEllis · 19/02/2025 07:16

The more honest film would have been to show how the life of the son of a Hamas government minister was different to the life of the child of an ordinary Gazan.

I agree with this. I suspect this child was only allowed to work in the hospital because of his family connections to Hamas, it's probably seen as the start of his Hamas training. I expect the lives of Gazan children without Hamas connections are a lot worse than this poor boys.

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