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BBC documentary - children of Gaza

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SmokeRingsOfMyMind · 18/02/2025 20:55

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/feb/17/gaza-how-to-survive-a-warzone-review-these-incredible-children-offer-a-sliver-of-hope

Did anyone see this last night? Heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.

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LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:24

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 14:10

What nonsense. They were living in peace with the Palestinians before 1948. Now, every last one of their churches is gone, thanks to the genocide.

I think you'll find there are still plenty of Christian churches in Israel.

AnxiousRose · 24/02/2025 15:24

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:21

It’s very poor form to demand an answer to your own question then evade answering when they ask one in return.

But I have not demanded an answer from you!
Can you please stop making things up and accusing people of things they have not said.

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:26

AnxiousRose · 24/02/2025 15:24

But I have not demanded an answer from you!
Can you please stop making things up and accusing people of things they have not said.

I was heavily questioned and gave clear answers in good faith. I have not had the same courtesy in return, but I expected that, as I know why. I have nothing else to say on the matter.

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:26

Travelodge · 24/02/2025 15:23

You asked for sources and I supplied some I assumed you would believe! But apparently not.

It all came from the same source, so we believe all of it or we believe none of it.

So - either Hamas did what your report describes (still please supply link) and there IS a genocide, for which there is no excuse

Or neither is happening

Which is it?

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:27

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:22

never again applies to Jewish people and the Holocaust. As you say, this thread is to discuss Gaza, specifically the BBC documentary, so I'll leave you to it.

'Never again' should never only apply to one people.

Travelodge · 24/02/2025 15:28

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:26

It all came from the same source, so we believe all of it or we believe none of it.

So - either Hamas did what your report describes (still please supply link) and there IS a genocide, for which there is no excuse

Or neither is happening

Which is it?

You answer the question I posed to you several times, which you avoided answering, and I’ll answer yours.

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 24/02/2025 15:29

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:24

I think you'll find there are still plenty of Christian churches in Israel.

Well yes because no one’s bombed them.
What does that have to do with all the churches gone in Palestine…..thats their home, not Israel!

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:30

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:24

I think you'll find there are still plenty of Christian churches in Israel.

Well that's because Israel isn't bombing themselves. Didn't think that was a revolutionary thought.

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:31

Travelodge · 24/02/2025 15:28

You answer the question I posed to you several times, which you avoided answering, and I’ll answer yours.

That's ok, you don't need to answer.

I've made my point.

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:32

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:26

It all came from the same source, so we believe all of it or we believe none of it.

So - either Hamas did what your report describes (still please supply link) and there IS a genocide, for which there is no excuse

Or neither is happening

Which is it?

Sounds like a demand to me.

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:32

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:30

Well that's because Israel isn't bombing themselves. Didn't think that was a revolutionary thought.

That truly is deflection!

AnxiousRose · 24/02/2025 15:32

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:26

I was heavily questioned and gave clear answers in good faith. I have not had the same courtesy in return, but I expected that, as I know why. I have nothing else to say on the matter.

As I said I never demanded an answer from you and I have answered your question. So can you please stop making things up that are completely untrue.

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:33

AnxiousRose · 24/02/2025 15:32

As I said I never demanded an answer from you and I have answered your question. So can you please stop making things up that are completely untrue.

I never demanded either. I never said ‘I demand you answer me’.

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:34

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:32

That truly is deflection!

Right? They've got it down to a fine art. A lesson on deflection in this thread.

Travelodge · 24/02/2025 15:36

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:31

That's ok, you don't need to answer.

I've made my point.

You certainly have! You’ve reinforced that you're unwilling to answer my question because you presumably think the right of return applies to displaced Palestinians but not displaced Jews, but are unwilling to say so.

You're entitled to your opinion, and those reading are entitled to theirs.

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:36

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 24/02/2025 15:29

Well yes because no one’s bombed them.
What does that have to do with all the churches gone in Palestine…..thats their home, not Israel!

There aren't many Christian churches in Gaza but there are plenty on the West Bank and none have been bombed AFAIK.

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:36

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:32

Sounds like a demand to me.

Not a demand at all - just a conversation. So what are your thoughts? Is the U.N credible or no?

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 24/02/2025 15:37

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:26

It all came from the same source, so we believe all of it or we believe none of it.

So - either Hamas did what your report describes (still please supply link) and there IS a genocide, for which there is no excuse

Or neither is happening

Which is it?

It’s obvious what you are saying here I really don’t understand why you have to keep explaining the obvious again and again…what is confusing…..
it goes along with others confusion on the discredited US article. Why the confusion.
Is this all deflecting or something….that manual again.
Exhausting

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:38

Travelodge · 24/02/2025 15:36

You certainly have! You’ve reinforced that you're unwilling to answer my question because you presumably think the right of return applies to displaced Palestinians but not displaced Jews, but are unwilling to say so.

You're entitled to your opinion, and those reading are entitled to theirs.

I think that last sentence of yours in this post is the only thing you've written that I truly agree with.

Still waiting for the link, by the way.

AnxiousRose · 24/02/2025 15:39

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 15:33

I never demanded either. I never said ‘I demand you answer me’.

No you weren't even polite enough to say " I demand"

You just said SAY 'this'

Everexpanding · 24/02/2025 15:41

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:15

War, not terrorism.

Sniping of children? if not terrorism a war crime no ?

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:41

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 24/02/2025 15:37

It’s obvious what you are saying here I really don’t understand why you have to keep explaining the obvious again and again…what is confusing…..
it goes along with others confusion on the discredited US article. Why the confusion.
Is this all deflecting or something….that manual again.
Exhausting

I'm just responding to those who appear confused and keep quoting me. You can choose whether to read or not read, you don't need to exhaust yourself.

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 24/02/2025 15:42

LetThereBeLove · 24/02/2025 15:36

There aren't many Christian churches in Gaza but there are plenty on the West Bank and none have been bombed AFAIK.

Incorrect
Of course there are ( were ) Christian churches in Gaza
Baptist
Catholic etc etc !!

Travelodge · 24/02/2025 15:43

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:38

I think that last sentence of yours in this post is the only thing you've written that I truly agree with.

Still waiting for the link, by the way.

Sorry, I thought you would just Google it.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/coi-report-a-hrc-56-26-27may24/#:~:text=In%20relation%20to%20the%20attack,%2C%20injured%2C%20mistreated%2C%20took%20hostages

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 24/02/2025 15:45

AzraiL · 24/02/2025 15:41

I'm just responding to those who appear confused and keep quoting me. You can choose whether to read or not read, you don't need to exhaust yourself.

It wasn’t a criticism I’m amazed you’ve kept on top of it tbh

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