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BBC documentary - children of Gaza

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SmokeRingsOfMyMind · 18/02/2025 20:55

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/feb/17/gaza-how-to-survive-a-warzone-review-these-incredible-children-offer-a-sliver-of-hope

Did anyone see this last night? Heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.

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AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 22:49

I've engaged my critical thinking skills and realised that what is shown in the documentary is increadibly valuable and that seeing it is more more valuable than not seeing it at all. Knowing that one of the children featured is the son of a Hamas government minister does not reduce the value of the documentary. It is the reality of life in Gaza, many children in Gaza will have relatives associated with Hamas.

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 22:52

So the documentary goes into how he has a high ranking Hamas dad, does it?

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 22:53

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 22:48

I think this is a key point.

So a young child is controlling the narrative of the documentary and the BBC are lying when they say the editorial team had full production control? 🤔

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 22:57

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 22:53

So a young child is controlling the narrative of the documentary and the BBC are lying when they say the editorial team had full production control? 🤔

I think it was a very big mistake on the part of the BBC which has now been acknowledged by them. You can rant about it as much as you want but Hamas are a terrorist organisation and for the BBC to use a child whose head has been undoubtedly filled with Hamas propaganda in a documentary ( without transparency) is completely unacceptable.

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 23:01

“Full production control” - what exactly does that mean in a war zone?

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:01

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 22:57

I think it was a very big mistake on the part of the BBC which has now been acknowledged by them. You can rant about it as much as you want but Hamas are a terrorist organisation and for the BBC to use a child whose head has been undoubtedly filled with Hamas propaganda in a documentary ( without transparency) is completely unacceptable.

So a young child is controlling the narrative of the documentary and the BBC are lying when they say the editorial team had full production control?

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 23:02

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:01

So a young child is controlling the narrative of the documentary and the BBC are lying when they say the editorial team had full production control?

See above …

( You’re glitching again)

Everexpanding · 23/02/2025 23:02

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 22:46

Yes . Anything but condemn Hamas 🙄

Anything but condemn or acknowledge Israeli war crimes

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:03

OpheliaWasntMad · 23/02/2025 23:02

See above …

( You’re glitching again)

You haven't answered the question

DelaneysOnTheWineAgain · 23/02/2025 23:03

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 22:53

So a young child is controlling the narrative of the documentary and the BBC are lying when they say the editorial team had full production control? 🤔

Exactly
The BBC obviously control the narrative along with everything they feel is relevant to show.
Life in Gaza now…. That’s what it shows.
It can’t be helped if some people don’t want to see what it’s really like….that’s just tough. Look away
but don’t hide it…..haven’t we seen that before in wars where atrocities and real suffering are hidden,

If there’s nothing to see here and as a previous poster mentioned it’s all lies then there would be nothing to see. I’m sure there would be far less complaints if there really was nothing to see here.

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:11

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 22:52

So the documentary goes into how he has a high ranking Hamas dad, does it?

Or maybe it doesn't actually show the reality of life in Gaza for these kids as claimed?

If it didn't show that, then was it really the BBC 'controlling the narrative'? They didn't even know.

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:14

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:11

Or maybe it doesn't actually show the reality of life in Gaza for these kids as claimed?

If it didn't show that, then was it really the BBC 'controlling the narrative'? They didn't even know.

The documentary was about the children of Gaza, not the parents of Gaza.

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:26

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:14

The documentary was about the children of Gaza, not the parents of Gaza.

It is apparently impossible to find anyone in Gaza who doesn't have links to Hamas make a film with, however the links that these children have to Hamas are entirely absent from the film.

If the reality of Gaza is that everyone is tainted by close connections to Hamas, as it appears these children are, why didn't they show that? And why weren't the BBC informed?

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:42

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:26

It is apparently impossible to find anyone in Gaza who doesn't have links to Hamas make a film with, however the links that these children have to Hamas are entirely absent from the film.

If the reality of Gaza is that everyone is tainted by close connections to Hamas, as it appears these children are, why didn't they show that? And why weren't the BBC informed?

Edited

It's increasingly difficult to understand your posts @noblegiraffe but I'll try to respond to what I think you are saying.

The documentary is about the lives of the children in Gaza, not the parents. It's not realistic to have a full background history of every child during the documentary. That's not what the documentary was about.
The documentary shows what the producers felt was valuable.

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:44

This is a reality of life for children in Gaza.

Is it not relevant? Is it not valuable information?

BBC documentary - children of Gaza
AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:46

These children are living in a warzone.
What part of the documentary do you feel was propaganda? Which part was untrue?

Everexpanding · 23/02/2025 23:47

The reality of Gaza is that 14, 500 children have been killed and 25,000 children have been injured since October 7th. That is what should be being discussed. They weren’t tainted

AzraiL · 23/02/2025 23:48

AnxiousRose · 21/02/2025 11:21

It is increadibly naive to think that a documentary could be made in Gaza without having any links to Hamas. Do you seriously think things are much better in Gaza than than are shown in this documentary?

Israeli actions have reduced Gaza to rubble, and have had a profound effect on the children living there. It is a living hell.

Its very clear we have desperate attempts by supporters of Israel to attack and suppress an account of the situation in Gaza that isn't
favourable to Israel.

Edited

Agree. Fortunately, this is the only place I have seen this kind of support. You'd think the constant violation of geneva conventions, the ICJ court rulings, the results of the U.N reports finding Israel guilty of war crimes would make people realise already that life in Gaza is horrific, and this predates Oct 7. But no, it's this doco that's objectionable.

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:48

Everexpanding · 23/02/2025 23:47

The reality of Gaza is that 14, 500 children have been killed and 25,000 children have been injured since October 7th. That is what should be being discussed. They weren’t tainted

I know, the documentary could have been much much worse.

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:49

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:46

These children are living in a warzone.
What part of the documentary do you feel was propaganda? Which part was untrue?

So you agree that the photo is a reality of life for children in Gaza (and is indeed one of the children featured in the documentary) but you don't think the absence of this particular part of those children's reality is any sort of propaganda?

AnxiousRose · 23/02/2025 23:55

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:49

So you agree that the photo is a reality of life for children in Gaza (and is indeed one of the children featured in the documentary) but you don't think the absence of this particular part of those children's reality is any sort of propaganda?

Again, this documentary was not about the parents. There are plenty of things which were not featured in this documentary.

Can you tell me what was IN this documentary which is propaganda and lies?

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:58

The influence of Hamas in Gaza is all-pervasive and hard to avoid, and at the same time not at all relevant to a documentary showing the reality of life in Gaza.

ok.

AnxiousRose · 24/02/2025 00:15

noblegiraffe · 23/02/2025 23:58

The influence of Hamas in Gaza is all-pervasive and hard to avoid, and at the same time not at all relevant to a documentary showing the reality of life in Gaza.

ok.

Can you tell me what was in the documentary that is propaganda and lies?

noblegiraffe · 24/02/2025 00:24

Was the influence of Hamas on these children part of the documentary?

OpheliaWasntMad · 24/02/2025 00:43

noblegiraffe · 24/02/2025 00:24

Was the influence of Hamas on these children part of the documentary?

A good question. I think I know the answer.

( “full production control” 🤔)

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