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Conflict in the Middle East

Hostages condition on release

525 replies

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 10:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/08/israel-hamas-hostages-released-gaza-latest-news/

The images speak for themselves

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BooToYouHalloween · 08/02/2025 15:16

Pic won’t upload so here’s the link x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1888227814333161808/photo/1

Musicofthespiers · 08/02/2025 15:34

It has been confirmed that Or Levy did not know his wife had been murdered.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:36

BooToYouHalloween · 08/02/2025 15:16

Such famine. Much wow.

This is a picture of Hamas, we know they're not starving, what's your point?

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 15:42

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 12:30

Not when you compare terrorists with hostages
It proves that Hamas has been keeping the aid for themselves and their supporters.

Have you tried looking at the people being released from Israeli prisons (I won't call them prisoners because a lot of them have never been convicted of any crime)? Do they look nice and healthy? Cnn report many of those released today were emaciated and in poor health. Hopefully my link will work.
edition.cnn.com/2025/02/08/middleeast/hostages-release-fifth-round-israel-hamas-ceasefire-intl-hnk/index.html

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 15:43

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:36

This is a picture of Hamas, we know they're not starving, what's your point?

The point is , as has already been posted, is that Hamas and their supporters did not suffer starvation. The hostages did. HTH

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Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:48

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 15:43

The point is , as has already been posted, is that Hamas and their supporters did not suffer starvation. The hostages did. HTH

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Yes we all know Hamas did not suffer starvation, the ordinary Palestinian people did though, as did the hostages on both sides, HTH

ViolaPlains · 08/02/2025 15:48

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 08/02/2025 10:58

What do you expect? Israel won't allow food into Gaza and everyone has been starving. The navel gazing is astounding.

Absolute clown of a reply.

dairydebris · 08/02/2025 15:54

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:48

Yes we all know Hamas did not suffer starvation, the ordinary Palestinian people did though, as did the hostages on both sides, HTH

Israel didn't take any hostages.

Honestly. The absolute guff from a lot of posters on here is mind-blowing.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:55

dairydebris · 08/02/2025 15:54

Israel didn't take any hostages.

Honestly. The absolute guff from a lot of posters on here is mind-blowing.

And yet there's so many being released, some with no charges against them....

Fluffyholeysocks · 08/02/2025 15:56

I must admit the awful parading of the hostages on stage surrounded by masked gunman isn't going to garner the Palestinians much sympathy. It all looks so intimidating, the poor female hostages looked terrified. All these armed, masked men in fatigues driving 4WD trucks shouting seems the wrong message while displaced Gazans are living in tents on piles of rubble.

wordsworthundercover · 08/02/2025 15:57

@MissyB1 I think the conditions of release of Palestinian detainees are very harsh. Waiting families are tear-gassed and they are threatened not to celebrate the release. Some of the young boys released were shockingly thin, heads shaved and looked very traumatised. According to Amnesty many will have been tortured and sexually violated. Indeed, the rape of a detainee was captured on CCTV, and the right to do so publicly argued in Israel. The three male hostages do indeed look thin and traumatised. It is terrible to think how they must have been treated. I do not think Hamas would treat hostages any better than Israeli prisons treat detainees. It may even be worse, as they are so isolated from any international standards relating to human rights. Unfortunately, the treatment of each other has become truly inhumane.

dairydebris · 08/02/2025 15:57

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:36

This is a picture of Hamas, we know they're not starving, what's your point?

Hang on a sec... you think those kids are Hamas? Oh well now, that is interesting

quantumbutterfly · 08/02/2025 15:57

BooToYouHalloween · 08/02/2025 15:16

Pic won’t upload so here’s the link x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1888227814333161808/photo/1

That twitter feed is horrifying.

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 15:58

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:48

Yes we all know Hamas did not suffer starvation, the ordinary Palestinian people did though, as did the hostages on both sides, HTH

I doubt very much that all the 'ordinary Palestinian people' starved. Majority of them seem to be Hamas supporters judging by pictures published by the terrorists themselves when releasing hostages. But you do you.

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dairydebris · 08/02/2025 16:00

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:55

And yet there's so many being released, some with no charges against them....

They aren't hostages though are they? So why call them that? Come on Liv, I think you can find a word for them... just don't lie please

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 16:00

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 15:55

And yet there's so many being released, some with no charges against them....

They are not hostages. But you know that.

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RobinStrike · 08/02/2025 16:01

We have to assume the Bibas family are dead. The rules governing the release were:

  1. The living before the dead
2.Civilian women
  1. Female soldiers
  2. Civilian men
  3. Male soldiers.
  4. The dead

The fact Ariel Kfir and Shiri Bibas haven't been mentioned suggests they are dead, although I'm guessing the confirmation of this won't come until the end of this stage of the negotiations to avoid inflaming the situation.

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 16:02

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 15:58

I doubt very much that all the 'ordinary Palestinian people' starved. Majority of them seem to be Hamas supporters judging by pictures published by the terrorists themselves when releasing hostages. But you do you.

Here we go again, Palestinian civilians were not starving, babies didn't strave to death, they didn't die of hypothermia, kids weren't shot in the head by Israeli snipers, it was all lies dreamed up by the aid workers and healthcare staff on the ground apparently 🙄🙄
You do know there are British, European and American healthcare staff and aid workers there? Are they just pathological liars?

fashionqueen0123 · 08/02/2025 16:03

Musicofthespiers · 08/02/2025 15:34

It has been confirmed that Or Levy did not know his wife had been murdered.

Oh god that’s horrific. I read an article earlier saying they weren’t sure if he knew. Poor poor man.

DoubleShotEspresso · 08/02/2025 16:03

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 08/02/2025 10:58

What do you expect? Israel won't allow food into Gaza and everyone has been starving. The navel gazing is astounding.

Seriously?

These men are victims not terrorists!
What an absolutely tone deaf comment.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 16:04

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 16:00

They are not hostages. But you know that.

If they have no charges against them what would you call them?

Lovelyview · 08/02/2025 16:04

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 08/02/2025 10:58

What do you expect? Israel won't allow food into Gaza and everyone has been starving. The navel gazing is astounding.

Simple solution would have been to return the hostages 15 months ago.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 16:05

LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 15:58

I doubt very much that all the 'ordinary Palestinian people' starved. Majority of them seem to be Hamas supporters judging by pictures published by the terrorists themselves when releasing hostages. But you do you.

Doubt it all you want, the facts speak for themselves

dairydebris · 08/02/2025 16:06

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 16:02

Here we go again, Palestinian civilians were not starving, babies didn't strave to death, they didn't die of hypothermia, kids weren't shot in the head by Israeli snipers, it was all lies dreamed up by the aid workers and healthcare staff on the ground apparently 🙄🙄
You do know there are British, European and American healthcare staff and aid workers there? Are they just pathological liars?

Ffs. What is the actual point of this post? No one has said any of those things here.

If you've nothing relevant to say do feel free to go elsewhere.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 16:08

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 16:02

Here we go again, Palestinian civilians were not starving, babies didn't strave to death, they didn't die of hypothermia, kids weren't shot in the head by Israeli snipers, it was all lies dreamed up by the aid workers and healthcare staff on the ground apparently 🙄🙄
You do know there are British, European and American healthcare staff and aid workers there? Are they just pathological liars?

Yes, the naivety is staggering really

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