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Conflict in the Middle East

Hostages condition on release

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LetThereBeLove · 08/02/2025 10:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/08/israel-hamas-hostages-released-gaza-latest-news/

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Ilovemytulips · 08/02/2025 17:46

Only stories that Egypt won't let the animals caged there leave.

What does this mean? Which animals?

wordsworthundercover · 08/02/2025 17:50

Ilovemytulips · 08/02/2025 17:46

Only stories that Egypt won't let the animals caged there leave.

What does this mean? Which animals?

I think @stomachamelon is referring to Egypt not allowing the population of Gaza to enter, perhaps they will explain.

GentleScroller · 08/02/2025 17:51

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 17:34

You don't get to dictate who posts on the thread. And telling the truth is not offensive or derailing. And pointing out that Palestinians have been starving is not hating Jews 🙄 don't make silly unfounded accusations.

Eli Sharabi, Ohad Ben Ami and Or Levy - that's who we are talking about. My accusations aren't unfounded, you are trying so hard to deflect the conversation. It's sickening and distasteful.

JSMill · 08/02/2025 17:51

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 08/02/2025 17:31

I think it's pretty shit the red cross suggest the next ones are to be held In private.
Covering up the crimes of hamas!

Tbh it's because of the disgusting way Hamas have paraded these people on stages. I can't bear to watch it.

GentleScroller · 08/02/2025 17:57

wordsworthundercover · 08/02/2025 17:31

Why are you telling @MissyB1 this? There was an exchange of people and frankly neither group seem to have been treated well. Is your position that one group deserved mistreatment and the other didn't? It's an argument, but if you care about moral standards it's untenable. I've not noticed missy saying anything much different to this and it is relevant to the topic.

'Your looking at the wrong victims' get off your high horse and give @MissyB1 the lecture. That's her statement not mine. And you have the nerve to question my compassion. Your judging the wrong person.

ArtTheClown · 08/02/2025 17:57

No-one in that baying crowd look like they'd missed a meal. Except the released hostages, who looked similar to prisoners released from concentration camps after WWII.

UnGattino · 08/02/2025 17:58

Different century, same shit

Hostages condition on release
SharonEllis · 08/02/2025 17:59

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 16:24

Whatever you want to call them, they've obviously been treated the same way as the Israeli hostages..

What a ridiculous statement. Even the hostages appear to have been treated in a variety of ways. We don't yet even know the full extent of how they were treated.

MrsPeregrine · 08/02/2025 18:00

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 08/02/2025 10:58

What do you expect? Israel won't allow food into Gaza and everyone has been starving. The navel gazing is astounding.

Just out of interest, how would you have expected Israel to respond the events of 7th October 2023? Do you think they should have sat back and waited for the next attack?

Chalicefromthepalace · 08/02/2025 18:04

JSMill · 08/02/2025 17:51

Tbh it's because of the disgusting way Hamas have paraded these people on stages. I can't bear to watch it.

Yep! It’s awful and shows them for the ghouls they are. Poor Eli Sharabi - filming him saying how he was looking forward to seeing his family. My heart broke for him.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 18:06

SharonEllis · 08/02/2025 17:59

What a ridiculous statement. Even the hostages appear to have been treated in a variety of ways. We don't yet even know the full extent of how they were treated.

I agree the hostages appear to have been treated in a variety of ways, obviously not all Palestinian detainees or Israeli hostages have been treated badly, what I'm saying is there has been mistreatment on BOTH sides to some of them, it's not a competition

wordsworthundercover · 08/02/2025 18:07

GentleScroller · 08/02/2025 17:57

'Your looking at the wrong victims' get off your high horse and give @MissyB1 the lecture. That's her statement not mine. And you have the nerve to question my compassion. Your judging the wrong person.

I don't agree with 'looking at the wrong victims.' The hostages were clearly treated with grave inhumanity and injustice. I also don't agree that their suffering is the only thing to be condemned here, or that, (as some seem to suggest), Palestinian detainees deserve mistreatment. If you think mistreatment of people is wrong, you have to consider all the people who have been held captive in this particular situation.

Halbiiamz · 08/02/2025 18:08

wordsworthundercover · 08/02/2025 17:50

I think @stomachamelon is referring to Egypt not allowing the population of Gaza to enter, perhaps they will explain.

I think she's probably referring to the terrorists that were released from Israeli prisons to Egypt. They're currently being held in Egyptian hotels but they're not allowed to leave the hotel as Egypt obviously doesn't want them causing trouble in their country.

UnGattino · 08/02/2025 18:09

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 15:42

Have you tried looking at the people being released from Israeli prisons (I won't call them prisoners because a lot of them have never been convicted of any crime)? Do they look nice and healthy? Cnn report many of those released today were emaciated and in poor health. Hopefully my link will work.
edition.cnn.com/2025/02/08/middleeast/hostages-release-fifth-round-israel-hamas-ceasefire-intl-hnk/index.html

One of the Palestinian prisoners that was released the other week in exchange for the female Israeli civilian hostages actually abducted a 19 Israeli woman from a park, raped her and then beheaded her.

He was not anomaly either. The Palestinian criminals being released from Israeli jails are not good people. They are murders and psychopaths motivated by a hatred of Jews. You think Hamas would be lobbying to get “innocents” out? Get real. They want to re-fill their ranks to carry on their orgy of terror. For Hamas it’s always been about the exchange rate.

stomachamelon · 08/02/2025 18:11

www.newarab.com/news/70-palestinians-deported-gaza-deal-remain-stranded-egypt

@Halbiiamz absolutely.

JSMill · 08/02/2025 18:11

@Chalicefromthepalace is that the man whose wife and babies were taken? I was thinking about him today. His eyes looked so sad. I think surely they have passed away surely. Why has nothing been said?

wordsworthundercover · 08/02/2025 18:13

GentleScroller · 08/02/2025 17:57

'Your looking at the wrong victims' get off your high horse and give @MissyB1 the lecture. That's her statement not mine. And you have the nerve to question my compassion. Your judging the wrong person.

I'm not sure @MissyB1 said 'looking at the wrong victims'? I think that may have been another poster, actually.

SharonEllis · 08/02/2025 18:14

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 18:06

I agree the hostages appear to have been treated in a variety of ways, obviously not all Palestinian detainees or Israeli hostages have been treated badly, what I'm saying is there has been mistreatment on BOTH sides to some of them, it's not a competition

Neither can you both sides this. The hostages are ENTIRELY innocent civilians. Among the Palestinian prisoners are convicted murderers and terrorists. You cannot dispute this Some were detained because it was a war situation - this is entirely normal in wars, civil rights are always curtailed in wars for the enemy. Especially when you are dealing with a guerilla war and a side that has no compunction in putting its civilians on the front line. Hamas will have known this when they decided to launch a war on 7 October. Undoubtedly some innocent people will have been detained, some might have been released if their cases got to court, some not. Hopefully wrong behaviour on the Israeli side will be brought to justice. We have already seen this week some Israeli soldiers punished for mistreatment. When did you last hear of a Hamas terrorist punished for mistreatment? This is a messy, violent situation but its monstrous and morally bankrupt to pretend that Hamas and the IDF are equivalent.

Chalicefromthepalace · 08/02/2025 18:15

JSMill · 08/02/2025 18:11

@Chalicefromthepalace is that the man whose wife and babies were taken? I was thinking about him today. His eyes looked so sad. I think surely they have passed away surely. Why has nothing been said?

No, Eli Sharabi’s wife and 2 daughters were killed on Oct 7th but he didn’t know. 😥

Sprinklepartyfun · 08/02/2025 18:15

dairydebris · 08/02/2025 16:00

They aren't hostages though are they? So why call them that? Come on Liv, I think you can find a word for them... just don't lie please

Ok.

How about individuals, often children, seized and held in horrific conditions, with no trial and no access to a lawyer for an indeterminate period. Often abused, raped and tortured.

The above could be used equally for the hostages and 'detainees'. I'm not sure Israel has any moral high ground here...

And yes, the hostages looked awful when released, as have many of the Palestinians who were captured, held and tortured. Shame on all of those who have taken people without going through a fair legal process, especially for the maltreatment that followed on both sides.

SharonEllis · 08/02/2025 18:15

JSMill · 08/02/2025 18:11

@Chalicefromthepalace is that the man whose wife and babies were taken? I was thinking about him today. His eyes looked so sad. I think surely they have passed away surely. Why has nothing been said?

Because Hamas are utterly cruel and want to torture him and the entire nation as long as they can.

MissyB1 · 08/02/2025 18:16

GentleScroller · 08/02/2025 17:51

Eli Sharabi, Ohad Ben Ami and Or Levy - that's who we are talking about. My accusations aren't unfounded, you are trying so hard to deflect the conversation. It's sickening and distasteful.

No I simply responded to another poster who cast doubt on the fact that Palestinian civilians had been starving.

Liv999 · 08/02/2025 18:24

SharonEllis · 08/02/2025 18:14

Neither can you both sides this. The hostages are ENTIRELY innocent civilians. Among the Palestinian prisoners are convicted murderers and terrorists. You cannot dispute this Some were detained because it was a war situation - this is entirely normal in wars, civil rights are always curtailed in wars for the enemy. Especially when you are dealing with a guerilla war and a side that has no compunction in putting its civilians on the front line. Hamas will have known this when they decided to launch a war on 7 October. Undoubtedly some innocent people will have been detained, some might have been released if their cases got to court, some not. Hopefully wrong behaviour on the Israeli side will be brought to justice. We have already seen this week some Israeli soldiers punished for mistreatment. When did you last hear of a Hamas terrorist punished for mistreatment? This is a messy, violent situation but its monstrous and morally bankrupt to pretend that Hamas and the IDF are equivalent.

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Yes among the Palestinian prisoners are convicted murderers and terrorists, I've never disputed this so why are you questioning it? Among them are also people who have not been convicted of anything and being tortured for this by Israel, and yes not all of them have been but there is evidence that yes Palestinian detainees have been starved and raped the same as the Israeli hostages, hopefully in time ALL the perpetrators will be brought to justice

Halbiiamz · 08/02/2025 18:24

stomachamelon · 08/02/2025 18:11

I don't blame them...a lot of Arab countries have made vast steps, they have tourism that makes up a lot of their economy. Womens rights in those countries are also increasing. Education is key. ( I think this will need to be a priority post war in Gaza) as the children there are indoctrinated from birth and bringing children up to hate us never going to result in peace. ( I have the same view if the extreme settlers).

EasternStandard · 08/02/2025 18:35

Tbh it's because of the disgusting way Hamas have paraded these people on stages. I can't bear to watch it.

It is shocking. However I don't see that the reality of Hamas shouldn't be shown.

The hell the hostages have been through.

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