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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel has broken the ceasefire

138 replies

Bpe · 20/01/2025 23:31

Are we surprised? I mean this happened multiple times last time. I do wonder if the media will report.
www.instagram.com/reel/DFDxfEgtefk/?igsh=MWFkcGtsdGJjaGxxOA==

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SharonEllis · 26/01/2025 22:52

Pointing out the reality that there are terrorists under the age of 18 is not to justify the murder of children. These posts are becoming increasingly ghoulish. Who on earth is saying they are perfectly happy to see children shot? But if you really cared about children you might admit that they have been groomed, manipulated and brutalised by Hamas and you also might recognise the complexity of dealing with a situation in which Israel is fighting a regime that puts young people on the front line. Rather than just seeing anothet opportunity to sttack Israel. How do you think these children should be rescued from Hamas?

Silence1 · 26/01/2025 23:16

@SharonEllis How do you think the settler children should be rescued?
When I put up that documentary about children being radicalised by violence the only "pro Israel " posters who commented basically said they wouldn't watch it as it didn't represent Israel.
Who radicalised the IDF operator who thought it was ok to strike a Lebanese building and kill 23 innocent children? You can see their photographs on the BBC article.

Whatsinanamehey · 26/01/2025 23:16

Such misinformation and incorrect generalisations. Some of you really don't know what you are talking about and it shows.

Children everywhere around the world in almost all countries are radicalised. That doesn't mean ALL of the children in those countries are. Are Israeli extremist children radicalised? Does that mean all Israeli children are radicalised?

The Palestinians have an extremely high literacy rate. If you see interviews with Palestinian children, most aspire to be professional in respected fields. But some of you prefer to horn in on a minority that exists in almost every country and generalise that for the entire population of children to justify your hate and prejudice.

Lalaloveya · 26/01/2025 23:42

Children can't be terrorists for God's sake. What an offensive assertion.

Lalaloveya · 26/01/2025 23:46

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/01/2025 20:26

No idea why my comment was deleted.

”Children aren’t terrorists”

What”s wrong with that? It’s true.

I'm scratching my head about why mine were deleted too.

Saying Palestinian children are terrorists is fine though 🤔

On the day when a two year old Palestinian toddler was buried after being shot in the head by the IDF while she ate dinner with her family.

SpunkyCritic · 27/01/2025 07:18

Silence1 · 26/01/2025 23:16

@SharonEllis How do you think the settler children should be rescued?
When I put up that documentary about children being radicalised by violence the only "pro Israel " posters who commented basically said they wouldn't watch it as it didn't represent Israel.
Who radicalised the IDF operator who thought it was ok to strike a Lebanese building and kill 23 innocent children? You can see their photographs on the BBC article.

Once again a perfectly reasonable post and question is ignored and the whataboutery came out.
Any chance you could answer the question and be helpful?

Scirocco · 27/01/2025 08:07

The justification, defence and open celebration of the murders of children, as widely seen posted on social media by people who share those views, are sickening. Soldiers used to feel regret if they had to kill an under-18 combatant in an engagement - now, people kill and maim toddlers and post "Lol" on their Instagram.

SpunkyCritic · 27/01/2025 08:20

Scirocco · 27/01/2025 08:07

The justification, defence and open celebration of the murders of children, as widely seen posted on social media by people who share those views, are sickening. Soldiers used to feel regret if they had to kill an under-18 combatant in an engagement - now, people kill and maim toddlers and post "Lol" on their Instagram.

Agreed, but I was under this was a discussion forum.
Instead, as per the norm, it turns into a thread stating all the bad stuff Israel has done.

None, and I mean none of the pro-Israel supporters on MN have ever said every action by Israel has been acceptable (indeed they have to defend themselves constantly or else be accused of enjoying the killing of children) but constant posts about Israel bad, Palestine good, Israel kills everyone etc without actually adding anything, isn't exactly a discussion, is it?

Certainly pro-Israel supporters never got their own board and posted every terrorist attack they endured over the years because it isn't conducive and is hardly the way to move forward to peace.

SharonEllis · 27/01/2025 08:21

Scirocco · 27/01/2025 08:07

The justification, defence and open celebration of the murders of children, as widely seen posted on social media by people who share those views, are sickening. Soldiers used to feel regret if they had to kill an under-18 combatant in an engagement - now, people kill and maim toddlers and post "Lol" on their Instagram.

But nobody here is doing that, yet the implication (or more) of lots of posts here is that people here are celebrating the deaths of children. Which they are not. The brutalisation of children is one of the most intractable issues in many parts of the world. Its also worth recognising that 18 is not necessarily the threshold of adulthood in many parts of the world. The age of consent in both gaza & west bank is under 18 & what we would consider child marriage is not uncommon. There is a big difference between a 6 year old & a 17 year old.

Pebblesonthebeach40 · 27/01/2025 08:25

SpunkyCritic · 27/01/2025 08:20

Agreed, but I was under this was a discussion forum.
Instead, as per the norm, it turns into a thread stating all the bad stuff Israel has done.

None, and I mean none of the pro-Israel supporters on MN have ever said every action by Israel has been acceptable (indeed they have to defend themselves constantly or else be accused of enjoying the killing of children) but constant posts about Israel bad, Palestine good, Israel kills everyone etc without actually adding anything, isn't exactly a discussion, is it?

Certainly pro-Israel supporters never got their own board and posted every terrorist attack they endured over the years because it isn't conducive and is hardly the way to move forward to peace.

Very true.

Scirocco · 27/01/2025 10:20

Lalaloveya · 26/01/2025 23:46

I'm scratching my head about why mine were deleted too.

Saying Palestinian children are terrorists is fine though 🤔

On the day when a two year old Palestinian toddler was buried after being shot in the head by the IDF while she ate dinner with her family.

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Yep, apparently it's fine to say that but not fine to object to that characterisation of young children. It would be considered unacceptable to refer to child victims of grooming and radicalisation as terrorists when they're not from certain demographics though. It's another example of how racist adultification is accepted. 18/19/20 year olds from certain ethnicities and religious backgrounds are excused from accountability for their actions: "They're children, really"; "Barely into adulthood"; "Forced into awful situations"; "They'll be scared". Meanwhile, 11/12/13 year olds from other ethnicities and religious backgrounds are treated as equivalent to adults; we see it in the UK in how children are treated by the state, in how child migrants are treated, and in how the public view children being killed in conflicts.

SpunkyCritic · 27/01/2025 13:38

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BelleHathor · 27/01/2025 15:03

Scirocco · 27/01/2025 10:20

Yep, apparently it's fine to say that but not fine to object to that characterisation of young children. It would be considered unacceptable to refer to child victims of grooming and radicalisation as terrorists when they're not from certain demographics though. It's another example of how racist adultification is accepted. 18/19/20 year olds from certain ethnicities and religious backgrounds are excused from accountability for their actions: "They're children, really"; "Barely into adulthood"; "Forced into awful situations"; "They'll be scared". Meanwhile, 11/12/13 year olds from other ethnicities and religious backgrounds are treated as equivalent to adults; we see it in the UK in how children are treated by the state, in how child migrants are treated, and in how the public view children being killed in conflicts.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Slightly Off Topic but the discussion of adultification reminded me of the stories about missing African American girls in Chicago, their families often ignored by the Police.
https://wordinblack.com/2024/02/missing-black-children-deserve-justice-too/

Missing Black Children Deserve Justice Too

Black children are nearly 60% of missing person cases. The reasons are rooted in systemic racism — but police data make them hard to analyze.

https://wordinblack.com/2024/02/missing-black-children-deserve-justice-too

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