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Why do Palestinian refugees have a separate refugee agency?

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Oodiks · 19/10/2024 20:49

Why is it that all other refugees come under the protection of the UNCHR and are resettled in another country if they cannot return home, but UNWRA keeps Palestinians in camps all over the Middle East and they are never offered the chance to resettle in their host countries?

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Alwayslookonthe · 20/10/2024 03:30

To be absolutely clear, there is no International law that requires Israel to allow Palestinian refugees and their descendants to return to Israel. No treaties or binding UN resolutions were violated by Israel's expulsion of Palestinians during the 1948 conflict and none provide a right to return for Palestinian refugees.

username3678 · 20/10/2024 04:01

@Alwayslookonthe
International Humanitarian Law
Rule 132. Displaced persons have a right to voluntary return in safety to their homes or places of habitual residence as soon as the reasons for their displacement cease to exist.

State practice establishes this rule as a norm of customary international law applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts.

The right to voluntary return in general is recognized in some other treaties, such as the Panmunjom Armistice Agreement and the Convention Governing Refugee Problems in Africa.

The Universal Declaration on Human Rights recognizes that “everybody has the right … to return to his country”.

According to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, “no one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country”.

Several military manuals underline that displacement must be limited in time and that displaced persons must be allowed to return to their homes or places of habitual residence.

The right of refugees and displaced persons to return is also supported by numerous official statements, mostly relating to non-international armed conflicts, such as in Abkhazia (Georgia), Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Philippines and Tajikistan, and by other practice.

This right is also recognized in several peace agreements and agreements on refugees and displaced persons, for example, with respect to the conflicts in Abkhazia (Georgia), Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Korea, Liberia, Sudan and Tajikistan.

The UN Security Council, UN General Assembly and UN Commission on Human Rights have on numerous occasions recalled the right of refugees and displaced persons to return freely to their homes in safety.

The Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement says that “displacement shall last no longer than required by the circumstances”.

Cremacreme · 20/10/2024 06:43

They have a right to return home and it's their choice if they want to go back into unsafe conditions.

So they don’t actually have any protection & it’s dangerous to actually go back.

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 07:17

BillySnuz · 19/10/2024 23:26

Basically corruption and antisemitism.

So, bit of background into the Palestinian refugee issue…On November 29 1947, following decades of violence, the United Nations voted in favour of partitioning the British Mandate for Palestine into one Jewish and one Arab state. The Jews celebrated the vote, with singing and dancing, champagne etc. etc. The day after the vote, the Arabs ambushed two Jewish buses and massacred 7 Jews, marking the start of the Palestine Civil War.

By May 13, 1948, one day prior to Israel’s Declaration of Independence in accordance with the termination of the British Mandate, some 300,000 Palestinian Arabs had left their homes in light of the civil war. The majority of these refugees belonged to the middle and upper classes, as they had the means to leave. No Zionist expulsions of Arabs are recorded prior to this date.

By the end of the 1948, 750,000 Palestinians had left or been expelled from their homes. At the same time, some 850,000 Jews were expelled from the Arab world as retribution for the war in Palestine. They were stripped of their citizenship, arrested on trumped up charges, their communities were violently attacked, and their assets were seized. Between 1948-1951, Israel was forced to absorb over a million Jewish refugees, including refugees from the Arab world and Holocaust survivors. This fast absorption of refugees put the nascent country on the verge of economic collapse. About one sixth of the Israeli population lived in refugee camps by the early 1950s, and rations were implemented across the nation.

On December 11, 1948, the United Nations passed Resolution 194, stating: “refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date.” To reiterate: “and live at peace with their neighbors” was established as a precondition for the repatriation of the Arab refugees. To this day, there is no peace between Israelis and Palestinians (sigh).

In the immediate aftermath of the war, Israel offered to repatriate 100,000 Palestinian refugees under the condition that the Arab League recognize Israel. The Arab League refused the offer.

By the late 1950s, Israel dismantled its Jewish refugee camps, largely thanks to the West Germany-Israel reparations agreement.

Palestinians, on the other hand, have been denied citizenship in almost all Arab countries (Jordan being the exception). Their status is passed down from generation to generation, and today, seven decades later, there are some 5.9 million Palestinian refugees. Only about 20,000 still living today were actually alive and displaced in 1948.

So anyway, UNWRA. Neither the United Nations nor any other nation made any sort of effort to assist with the resettlement of the 850,000 Jews expelled from the Arab world. On the other hand, the United Nations established the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees, or UNRPR, to assist the Palestinian refugees. In 1949, the United Nations established the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA, to help with the Palestinian refugee issue. The establishment of UNRWA was supported by both Israel and the Arab states.

UNRWA was supposed to provide temporary solution. Instead, it became a permanent agency.

UNRWA is the only UN agency dedicated to a specific group of refugees. All other refugees in the world fall under the mandate of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR.

UNRWA, which is responsible for some 5.9 million Palestinian refugees, has over 30,000 employees (some of whom took part in the October 7th pogrom, and just a couple of days ago it turned out that a passport of a UNRWA teacher was reportedly found on the dead body of Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar). UNHCR, which is responsible for the rest of the world’s 21.2 million refugees, has less than 19,000 employees.

This is just a personal opinion: UNRWA provides no legitimate or satisfactory explanation as to why Palestinian refugees do not fall under UNHCR, like all other refugees in the world. Instead they state: “This is not a decision on the part of either UNRWA or UNHCR, but rather the result of decisions of the international community enshrined in the 1951 Refugee Convention and the UNHCR Statute…Neither UNRWA nor UNHCR can unilaterally change these instruments.”

It’s worth noting that the majority of refugees living in UNRWA refugee camps live within Palestinian territory, under Palestinian governance. The largest UNRWA population is located in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip has not been under Israeli occupation since 2005. In other words, there’s no reason why these refugees should still be held in refugee camps.

UNRWA defines Palestinian refugees those whose “normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.”

The descendants of fathers who meet the above definition can also register as Palestinian refugees, including adopted children, even if they are born after their fathers have already been resettled.

This means that, for example, Bella and Gigi Hadid can register as Palestinian refugees.

UNHCR defines refugees as those who “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”

Children born to refugees are considered refugees per UNHCR so long as their parents remain stateless. Children born to parents who have been resettled or repatriated are not refugees.

When it comes to the UNRWA mandate, per the UNRWA website, “UNRWA does not have a mandate to resettle Palestine refugees and has no authority to seek lasting durable solutions for refugees.”

Yes, you read that correctly: UNRWA has no authority to seek lasting solutions for Palestinian refugees. Why does a United Nations refugee agency not help refugees with solutions, whether the solution ends up being repatriation or resettlement? Isn’t the point of a refugee agency to…help refugees?

From a humanitarian standpoint, this should outrage people, yet it seems that much — if not most — of “pro-Palestine” activism is predicated on the opposition of Israel rather than sincere humanitarian concern for Palestinians.

But the UNHCR mandate? By contrast, it states of its responsibilities: “Seeking long-term solutions for refugees is central to our mandate. Once it is safe to do so, we help families and individuals return to their homeland. For those who cannot return because of continued conflict, war or persecution, UNHCR helps them to settle and make a positive contribution in a third country or integrate into a host country.”

On the UNWRA refugee camps: the majority of refugees under UNRWA are living in refugee camps in the Gaza Strip (1.5 million) and the West Bank (one million), in areas under Palestinian rule. Israel withdrew both civilians and military from the Gaza Strip in 2005, and the refugee camps in the West Bank are in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority. In other words, Palestinian refugees are living in refugee camps in Palestine, for the past seven decades. It makes no sense.

It gets worse. According to a joint 100 page United Nations Watch and Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se) report, UNRWA textbooks “contain material that encourages jihad, violence and martyrdom, promotes antisemitism, and promotes hate, intolerance, and lack of neutrality.”

Some of its educational literature, for example, depicts Jews as “inherently treacherous, and hostile to Islam and Muslims.” A grammar exercise implies Jews are impure, defiling Al Aqsa Mosque (in reality, Jews are not even permitted to enter Al Aqsa Mosque). A poem describes murdering Israelis as a “hobby.”
In 2020, the European Parliament condemned the Palestinian Authority for continuing to incite violence and hatred in its educational material. UNRWA claimed to have removed the problematic material from its textbooks, but a 2022 report found that it had merely been removed from its English language online portal.

In 2009, a dispute erupted between Hamas and UNRWA because Hamas claimed UNRWA schools were teaching about the Holocaust, which they stated was “a lie the Zionists made up.” Instead of condemning Hamas, UNRWA appeased it instead, stating that their curriculums do not include the Holocaust.

UNRWA educators frequently post antisemitic conspiracies and even admiration for Hitler on their social media platforms.

Meanwhile, UNRWA is infamous for its corruption. The agency received about 16.5 billion in aid from 1994-2017 plus another 8.5 billion in aid from Arab states between 1994-2020. UNRWA workers, usually associated with Hamas, have been caught diverting aid intended for Palestinian refugees various times, both by Israel and by the United Nations itself. For example: in February of 2009, the United Nations stopped funneling aid into Gaza after it discovered that Hamas had stolen aid twice in the same week, comprising of thousands of tons of food and other provisions.
In 2022, Israel accused a Gaza aid worker of diverting about 50 million dollars worth of UNRWA donations to Hamas. A court upheld the ruling, though various human rights organizations accused Israel of a “miscarriage of justice.”

According to a 2009 Washington Institute for Near East Policy report, UNRWA workers fear a permanent peace agreement and the dissolution of UNRWA, as UNRWA pays its employees, unlike the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, which are known to withhold wages from their workers. In other words, UNRWA has a major economic incentive to maintain the Palestinian refugee crisis, rather than alleviate it. In 2008, UNRWA itself claimed that it is “dedicated to blocking resettlement,” as reported by Global Research in International Affairs. In the early 1980s, when Israel attempted to resettle refugee in Gaza into permanent housing within the Strip, some UNRWA employees allegedly told refugees to resist because permanent resettlement (even within Gaza itself) would mean that they would lose their “right of return.”

UNRWA itself claims that it is mandated to be apolitical, but in reality, it seems to violate this mandate at every turn. First, its school textbooks openly promote political violence. Second, UNRWA facilities, including schools, have repeatedly been caught storing weapons - this latest war proves this. For example, UNRWA admitted weapons had been stored at their facilities in July of 2014. Hamas tunnels have repeatedly been found under UNRWA schools. In January of 2021, for instance, UNRWA claimed that it had “discovered a cavity and a possible tunnel 7.5 meters beneath a school.” A similar discovery was made that December. Hamas has even fired missiles from UNRWA schools, which is a double war crime. UNRWA has admitted as such at various points, such as in April of 2015.

You couldn’t make the it up, could you?

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Wow.

They are continuously encouraged to be victims and for descendents of people to keep holding refugee status. Imagine that situation if all other countries did that even just going back to the 1940's ....the world would be full of refugees from lots of different nations. They are stuck in a perpetual state. Not healthy.

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 07:22

Oodiks · 20/10/2024 01:35

Are you aware of the exodus of Jews from Arab lands at the same time as the Nakba?

Roughly 900,000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s. The vast majority of them were resettled in Israel.

Imagine if these 800,000 Jewish people forced from their lands and their descendents also sought permanent refugee status. Thankfully the majority of refugees around the world settle somewhere new rather than holding onto generational victimhood.

Doford · 20/10/2024 07:43

BillySnuz · 19/10/2024 23:26

Basically corruption and antisemitism.

So, bit of background into the Palestinian refugee issue…On November 29 1947, following decades of violence, the United Nations voted in favour of partitioning the British Mandate for Palestine into one Jewish and one Arab state. The Jews celebrated the vote, with singing and dancing, champagne etc. etc. The day after the vote, the Arabs ambushed two Jewish buses and massacred 7 Jews, marking the start of the Palestine Civil War.

By May 13, 1948, one day prior to Israel’s Declaration of Independence in accordance with the termination of the British Mandate, some 300,000 Palestinian Arabs had left their homes in light of the civil war. The majority of these refugees belonged to the middle and upper classes, as they had the means to leave. No Zionist expulsions of Arabs are recorded prior to this date.

By the end of the 1948, 750,000 Palestinians had left or been expelled from their homes. At the same time, some 850,000 Jews were expelled from the Arab world as retribution for the war in Palestine. They were stripped of their citizenship, arrested on trumped up charges, their communities were violently attacked, and their assets were seized. Between 1948-1951, Israel was forced to absorb over a million Jewish refugees, including refugees from the Arab world and Holocaust survivors. This fast absorption of refugees put the nascent country on the verge of economic collapse. About one sixth of the Israeli population lived in refugee camps by the early 1950s, and rations were implemented across the nation.

On December 11, 1948, the United Nations passed Resolution 194, stating: “refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date.” To reiterate: “and live at peace with their neighbors” was established as a precondition for the repatriation of the Arab refugees. To this day, there is no peace between Israelis and Palestinians (sigh).

In the immediate aftermath of the war, Israel offered to repatriate 100,000 Palestinian refugees under the condition that the Arab League recognize Israel. The Arab League refused the offer.

By the late 1950s, Israel dismantled its Jewish refugee camps, largely thanks to the West Germany-Israel reparations agreement.

Palestinians, on the other hand, have been denied citizenship in almost all Arab countries (Jordan being the exception). Their status is passed down from generation to generation, and today, seven decades later, there are some 5.9 million Palestinian refugees. Only about 20,000 still living today were actually alive and displaced in 1948.

So anyway, UNWRA. Neither the United Nations nor any other nation made any sort of effort to assist with the resettlement of the 850,000 Jews expelled from the Arab world. On the other hand, the United Nations established the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees, or UNRPR, to assist the Palestinian refugees. In 1949, the United Nations established the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA, to help with the Palestinian refugee issue. The establishment of UNRWA was supported by both Israel and the Arab states.

UNRWA was supposed to provide temporary solution. Instead, it became a permanent agency.

UNRWA is the only UN agency dedicated to a specific group of refugees. All other refugees in the world fall under the mandate of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR.

UNRWA, which is responsible for some 5.9 million Palestinian refugees, has over 30,000 employees (some of whom took part in the October 7th pogrom, and just a couple of days ago it turned out that a passport of a UNRWA teacher was reportedly found on the dead body of Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar). UNHCR, which is responsible for the rest of the world’s 21.2 million refugees, has less than 19,000 employees.

This is just a personal opinion: UNRWA provides no legitimate or satisfactory explanation as to why Palestinian refugees do not fall under UNHCR, like all other refugees in the world. Instead they state: “This is not a decision on the part of either UNRWA or UNHCR, but rather the result of decisions of the international community enshrined in the 1951 Refugee Convention and the UNHCR Statute…Neither UNRWA nor UNHCR can unilaterally change these instruments.”

It’s worth noting that the majority of refugees living in UNRWA refugee camps live within Palestinian territory, under Palestinian governance. The largest UNRWA population is located in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip has not been under Israeli occupation since 2005. In other words, there’s no reason why these refugees should still be held in refugee camps.

UNRWA defines Palestinian refugees those whose “normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.”

The descendants of fathers who meet the above definition can also register as Palestinian refugees, including adopted children, even if they are born after their fathers have already been resettled.

This means that, for example, Bella and Gigi Hadid can register as Palestinian refugees.

UNHCR defines refugees as those who “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”

Children born to refugees are considered refugees per UNHCR so long as their parents remain stateless. Children born to parents who have been resettled or repatriated are not refugees.

When it comes to the UNRWA mandate, per the UNRWA website, “UNRWA does not have a mandate to resettle Palestine refugees and has no authority to seek lasting durable solutions for refugees.”

Yes, you read that correctly: UNRWA has no authority to seek lasting solutions for Palestinian refugees. Why does a United Nations refugee agency not help refugees with solutions, whether the solution ends up being repatriation or resettlement? Isn’t the point of a refugee agency to…help refugees?

From a humanitarian standpoint, this should outrage people, yet it seems that much — if not most — of “pro-Palestine” activism is predicated on the opposition of Israel rather than sincere humanitarian concern for Palestinians.

But the UNHCR mandate? By contrast, it states of its responsibilities: “Seeking long-term solutions for refugees is central to our mandate. Once it is safe to do so, we help families and individuals return to their homeland. For those who cannot return because of continued conflict, war or persecution, UNHCR helps them to settle and make a positive contribution in a third country or integrate into a host country.”

On the UNWRA refugee camps: the majority of refugees under UNRWA are living in refugee camps in the Gaza Strip (1.5 million) and the West Bank (one million), in areas under Palestinian rule. Israel withdrew both civilians and military from the Gaza Strip in 2005, and the refugee camps in the West Bank are in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority. In other words, Palestinian refugees are living in refugee camps in Palestine, for the past seven decades. It makes no sense.

It gets worse. According to a joint 100 page United Nations Watch and Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se) report, UNRWA textbooks “contain material that encourages jihad, violence and martyrdom, promotes antisemitism, and promotes hate, intolerance, and lack of neutrality.”

Some of its educational literature, for example, depicts Jews as “inherently treacherous, and hostile to Islam and Muslims.” A grammar exercise implies Jews are impure, defiling Al Aqsa Mosque (in reality, Jews are not even permitted to enter Al Aqsa Mosque). A poem describes murdering Israelis as a “hobby.”
In 2020, the European Parliament condemned the Palestinian Authority for continuing to incite violence and hatred in its educational material. UNRWA claimed to have removed the problematic material from its textbooks, but a 2022 report found that it had merely been removed from its English language online portal.

In 2009, a dispute erupted between Hamas and UNRWA because Hamas claimed UNRWA schools were teaching about the Holocaust, which they stated was “a lie the Zionists made up.” Instead of condemning Hamas, UNRWA appeased it instead, stating that their curriculums do not include the Holocaust.

UNRWA educators frequently post antisemitic conspiracies and even admiration for Hitler on their social media platforms.

Meanwhile, UNRWA is infamous for its corruption. The agency received about 16.5 billion in aid from 1994-2017 plus another 8.5 billion in aid from Arab states between 1994-2020. UNRWA workers, usually associated with Hamas, have been caught diverting aid intended for Palestinian refugees various times, both by Israel and by the United Nations itself. For example: in February of 2009, the United Nations stopped funneling aid into Gaza after it discovered that Hamas had stolen aid twice in the same week, comprising of thousands of tons of food and other provisions.
In 2022, Israel accused a Gaza aid worker of diverting about 50 million dollars worth of UNRWA donations to Hamas. A court upheld the ruling, though various human rights organizations accused Israel of a “miscarriage of justice.”

According to a 2009 Washington Institute for Near East Policy report, UNRWA workers fear a permanent peace agreement and the dissolution of UNRWA, as UNRWA pays its employees, unlike the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, which are known to withhold wages from their workers. In other words, UNRWA has a major economic incentive to maintain the Palestinian refugee crisis, rather than alleviate it. In 2008, UNRWA itself claimed that it is “dedicated to blocking resettlement,” as reported by Global Research in International Affairs. In the early 1980s, when Israel attempted to resettle refugee in Gaza into permanent housing within the Strip, some UNRWA employees allegedly told refugees to resist because permanent resettlement (even within Gaza itself) would mean that they would lose their “right of return.”

UNRWA itself claims that it is mandated to be apolitical, but in reality, it seems to violate this mandate at every turn. First, its school textbooks openly promote political violence. Second, UNRWA facilities, including schools, have repeatedly been caught storing weapons - this latest war proves this. For example, UNRWA admitted weapons had been stored at their facilities in July of 2014. Hamas tunnels have repeatedly been found under UNRWA schools. In January of 2021, for instance, UNRWA claimed that it had “discovered a cavity and a possible tunnel 7.5 meters beneath a school.” A similar discovery was made that December. Hamas has even fired missiles from UNRWA schools, which is a double war crime. UNRWA has admitted as such at various points, such as in April of 2015.

You couldn’t make the it up, could you?

Edited

Why were the Palestinians given such a small area to live in, in comparison to Israel? Is it true that Palestinians were never able to leave and settle in other countries, even before last October? Were they allowed to leave at all, to go on holiday for example? I read somewhere that everyone in Gaza has always been stateless.

I also read, at the beginning of the bombing, that no-one was allowed to leave. But since then people have left, including a prominent journalist. But other journalists are still there even though they are also at risk, and I don’t know why one was allowed to leave but the others weren’t.

I’ve seen GoFundMes for families that say how much money they need to leave, and I couldn’t figure out how that is working: is it the case that anyone in Gaza can leave now but only if they have enough money, meaning that anyone wealthy has already managed to leave?

I am only asking as you seem knowledgeable, so might know the answers !

username3678 · 20/10/2024 09:46

Cremacreme · 20/10/2024 06:43

They have a right to return home and it's their choice if they want to go back into unsafe conditions.

So they don’t actually have any protection & it’s dangerous to actually go back.

I'm not sure how this is relevant to anything being discussed. What point are you trying to make?

Cremacreme · 20/10/2024 09:50

Is it really not clear?

Cremacreme · 20/10/2024 09:52

I didn’t know such a law existed but it seems pretty pointless if it can’t actually be implemented in real life.

username3678 · 20/10/2024 09:52

Cremacreme · 20/10/2024 09:50

Is it really not clear?

Obviously not, can you elaborate please.

Kindatired · 20/10/2024 10:29

So people from Morocco and North Africaand their offspring who had no physical presence in the Holy Land since the Iron Age are living in the homes of the Palestinians that were expelled from there during the Nakba. The Palestinians should just suck it up and let another million settlers illegally occupy the West Bank. The Palestinians should go off to be an ethnic minority in someone else’s country and integrate themselves and leave Israel to the incomers. But Germany and the wealthy diaspora paid for the resettlement of Jewish people What has Israel offered to the Palestinians ? Also it seems to be accepted that Israel can annexe more and more territory but if the Oalestinians in the West Bank resist, they are terrorists

herecomesautumn · 20/10/2024 10:56

BillySnuz · 19/10/2024 23:26

Basically corruption and antisemitism.

So, bit of background into the Palestinian refugee issue…On November 29 1947, following decades of violence, the United Nations voted in favour of partitioning the British Mandate for Palestine into one Jewish and one Arab state. The Jews celebrated the vote, with singing and dancing, champagne etc. etc. The day after the vote, the Arabs ambushed two Jewish buses and massacred 7 Jews, marking the start of the Palestine Civil War.

By May 13, 1948, one day prior to Israel’s Declaration of Independence in accordance with the termination of the British Mandate, some 300,000 Palestinian Arabs had left their homes in light of the civil war. The majority of these refugees belonged to the middle and upper classes, as they had the means to leave. No Zionist expulsions of Arabs are recorded prior to this date.

By the end of the 1948, 750,000 Palestinians had left or been expelled from their homes. At the same time, some 850,000 Jews were expelled from the Arab world as retribution for the war in Palestine. They were stripped of their citizenship, arrested on trumped up charges, their communities were violently attacked, and their assets were seized. Between 1948-1951, Israel was forced to absorb over a million Jewish refugees, including refugees from the Arab world and Holocaust survivors. This fast absorption of refugees put the nascent country on the verge of economic collapse. About one sixth of the Israeli population lived in refugee camps by the early 1950s, and rations were implemented across the nation.

On December 11, 1948, the United Nations passed Resolution 194, stating: “refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date.” To reiterate: “and live at peace with their neighbors” was established as a precondition for the repatriation of the Arab refugees. To this day, there is no peace between Israelis and Palestinians (sigh).

In the immediate aftermath of the war, Israel offered to repatriate 100,000 Palestinian refugees under the condition that the Arab League recognize Israel. The Arab League refused the offer.

By the late 1950s, Israel dismantled its Jewish refugee camps, largely thanks to the West Germany-Israel reparations agreement.

Palestinians, on the other hand, have been denied citizenship in almost all Arab countries (Jordan being the exception). Their status is passed down from generation to generation, and today, seven decades later, there are some 5.9 million Palestinian refugees. Only about 20,000 still living today were actually alive and displaced in 1948.

So anyway, UNWRA. Neither the United Nations nor any other nation made any sort of effort to assist with the resettlement of the 850,000 Jews expelled from the Arab world. On the other hand, the United Nations established the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees, or UNRPR, to assist the Palestinian refugees. In 1949, the United Nations established the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA, to help with the Palestinian refugee issue. The establishment of UNRWA was supported by both Israel and the Arab states.

UNRWA was supposed to provide temporary solution. Instead, it became a permanent agency.

UNRWA is the only UN agency dedicated to a specific group of refugees. All other refugees in the world fall under the mandate of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR.

UNRWA, which is responsible for some 5.9 million Palestinian refugees, has over 30,000 employees (some of whom took part in the October 7th pogrom, and just a couple of days ago it turned out that a passport of a UNRWA teacher was reportedly found on the dead body of Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar). UNHCR, which is responsible for the rest of the world’s 21.2 million refugees, has less than 19,000 employees.

This is just a personal opinion: UNRWA provides no legitimate or satisfactory explanation as to why Palestinian refugees do not fall under UNHCR, like all other refugees in the world. Instead they state: “This is not a decision on the part of either UNRWA or UNHCR, but rather the result of decisions of the international community enshrined in the 1951 Refugee Convention and the UNHCR Statute…Neither UNRWA nor UNHCR can unilaterally change these instruments.”

It’s worth noting that the majority of refugees living in UNRWA refugee camps live within Palestinian territory, under Palestinian governance. The largest UNRWA population is located in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip has not been under Israeli occupation since 2005. In other words, there’s no reason why these refugees should still be held in refugee camps.

UNRWA defines Palestinian refugees those whose “normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.”

The descendants of fathers who meet the above definition can also register as Palestinian refugees, including adopted children, even if they are born after their fathers have already been resettled.

This means that, for example, Bella and Gigi Hadid can register as Palestinian refugees.

UNHCR defines refugees as those who “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”

Children born to refugees are considered refugees per UNHCR so long as their parents remain stateless. Children born to parents who have been resettled or repatriated are not refugees.

When it comes to the UNRWA mandate, per the UNRWA website, “UNRWA does not have a mandate to resettle Palestine refugees and has no authority to seek lasting durable solutions for refugees.”

Yes, you read that correctly: UNRWA has no authority to seek lasting solutions for Palestinian refugees. Why does a United Nations refugee agency not help refugees with solutions, whether the solution ends up being repatriation or resettlement? Isn’t the point of a refugee agency to…help refugees?

From a humanitarian standpoint, this should outrage people, yet it seems that much — if not most — of “pro-Palestine” activism is predicated on the opposition of Israel rather than sincere humanitarian concern for Palestinians.

But the UNHCR mandate? By contrast, it states of its responsibilities: “Seeking long-term solutions for refugees is central to our mandate. Once it is safe to do so, we help families and individuals return to their homeland. For those who cannot return because of continued conflict, war or persecution, UNHCR helps them to settle and make a positive contribution in a third country or integrate into a host country.”

On the UNWRA refugee camps: the majority of refugees under UNRWA are living in refugee camps in the Gaza Strip (1.5 million) and the West Bank (one million), in areas under Palestinian rule. Israel withdrew both civilians and military from the Gaza Strip in 2005, and the refugee camps in the West Bank are in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority. In other words, Palestinian refugees are living in refugee camps in Palestine, for the past seven decades. It makes no sense.

It gets worse. According to a joint 100 page United Nations Watch and Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se) report, UNRWA textbooks “contain material that encourages jihad, violence and martyrdom, promotes antisemitism, and promotes hate, intolerance, and lack of neutrality.”

Some of its educational literature, for example, depicts Jews as “inherently treacherous, and hostile to Islam and Muslims.” A grammar exercise implies Jews are impure, defiling Al Aqsa Mosque (in reality, Jews are not even permitted to enter Al Aqsa Mosque). A poem describes murdering Israelis as a “hobby.”
In 2020, the European Parliament condemned the Palestinian Authority for continuing to incite violence and hatred in its educational material. UNRWA claimed to have removed the problematic material from its textbooks, but a 2022 report found that it had merely been removed from its English language online portal.

In 2009, a dispute erupted between Hamas and UNRWA because Hamas claimed UNRWA schools were teaching about the Holocaust, which they stated was “a lie the Zionists made up.” Instead of condemning Hamas, UNRWA appeased it instead, stating that their curriculums do not include the Holocaust.

UNRWA educators frequently post antisemitic conspiracies and even admiration for Hitler on their social media platforms.

Meanwhile, UNRWA is infamous for its corruption. The agency received about 16.5 billion in aid from 1994-2017 plus another 8.5 billion in aid from Arab states between 1994-2020. UNRWA workers, usually associated with Hamas, have been caught diverting aid intended for Palestinian refugees various times, both by Israel and by the United Nations itself. For example: in February of 2009, the United Nations stopped funneling aid into Gaza after it discovered that Hamas had stolen aid twice in the same week, comprising of thousands of tons of food and other provisions.
In 2022, Israel accused a Gaza aid worker of diverting about 50 million dollars worth of UNRWA donations to Hamas. A court upheld the ruling, though various human rights organizations accused Israel of a “miscarriage of justice.”

According to a 2009 Washington Institute for Near East Policy report, UNRWA workers fear a permanent peace agreement and the dissolution of UNRWA, as UNRWA pays its employees, unlike the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, which are known to withhold wages from their workers. In other words, UNRWA has a major economic incentive to maintain the Palestinian refugee crisis, rather than alleviate it. In 2008, UNRWA itself claimed that it is “dedicated to blocking resettlement,” as reported by Global Research in International Affairs. In the early 1980s, when Israel attempted to resettle refugee in Gaza into permanent housing within the Strip, some UNRWA employees allegedly told refugees to resist because permanent resettlement (even within Gaza itself) would mean that they would lose their “right of return.”

UNRWA itself claims that it is mandated to be apolitical, but in reality, it seems to violate this mandate at every turn. First, its school textbooks openly promote political violence. Second, UNRWA facilities, including schools, have repeatedly been caught storing weapons - this latest war proves this. For example, UNRWA admitted weapons had been stored at their facilities in July of 2014. Hamas tunnels have repeatedly been found under UNRWA schools. In January of 2021, for instance, UNRWA claimed that it had “discovered a cavity and a possible tunnel 7.5 meters beneath a school.” A similar discovery was made that December. Hamas has even fired missiles from UNRWA schools, which is a double war crime. UNRWA has admitted as such at various points, such as in April of 2015.

You couldn’t make the it up, could you?

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Thank you for an excellent summary

SharonEllis · 20/10/2024 11:08

Kindatired · 20/10/2024 10:29

So people from Morocco and North Africaand their offspring who had no physical presence in the Holy Land since the Iron Age are living in the homes of the Palestinians that were expelled from there during the Nakba. The Palestinians should just suck it up and let another million settlers illegally occupy the West Bank. The Palestinians should go off to be an ethnic minority in someone else’s country and integrate themselves and leave Israel to the incomers. But Germany and the wealthy diaspora paid for the resettlement of Jewish people What has Israel offered to the Palestinians ? Also it seems to be accepted that Israel can annexe more and more territory but if the Oalestinians in the West Bank resist, they are terrorists

I don't think I've ever come across anyone on these threads who supports the illegal settlements on the West Bank. Its a regular straw man though.

GhostCicada · 20/10/2024 11:19

SharonEllis · 20/10/2024 11:08

I don't think I've ever come across anyone on these threads who supports the illegal settlements on the West Bank. Its a regular straw man though.

I have. I've seen the 'what else are they supposed to do defence' to it that seems so popular for Israels crimes.

TheABC · 20/10/2024 12:00

Yes, people can leave Gaza with the right paperwork and/or bribes to Egyptian officials.

Alwayslookonthe · 20/10/2024 20:44

username3678 · 20/10/2024 04:01

@Alwayslookonthe
International Humanitarian Law
Rule 132. Displaced persons have a right to voluntary return in safety to their homes or places of habitual residence as soon as the reasons for their displacement cease to exist.

State practice establishes this rule as a norm of customary international law applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts.

The right to voluntary return in general is recognized in some other treaties, such as the Panmunjom Armistice Agreement and the Convention Governing Refugee Problems in Africa.

The Universal Declaration on Human Rights recognizes that “everybody has the right … to return to his country”.

According to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, “no one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country”.

Several military manuals underline that displacement must be limited in time and that displaced persons must be allowed to return to their homes or places of habitual residence.

The right of refugees and displaced persons to return is also supported by numerous official statements, mostly relating to non-international armed conflicts, such as in Abkhazia (Georgia), Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Philippines and Tajikistan, and by other practice.

This right is also recognized in several peace agreements and agreements on refugees and displaced persons, for example, with respect to the conflicts in Abkhazia (Georgia), Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Korea, Liberia, Sudan and Tajikistan.

The UN Security Council, UN General Assembly and UN Commission on Human Rights have on numerous occasions recalled the right of refugees and displaced persons to return freely to their homes in safety.

The Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement says that “displacement shall last no longer than required by the circumstances”.

At the time of the 1947-49 conflict there was no established CIL requiring a state in Israel’s position to allow refugees -who lacked the nationality of the state to which they sought to return - to return to their homes. CIL is not retroactive.

There are currently 5.9 million registered refugees. No one comes off the list.

UNRWA refuses to accept people who are citizens of a country are not refugees. Jordan granted citizenship to the Palestinian refugees who fled there including (at the time ) those in the West Bank, which Jordan occupied between 1949 and 1967. So there are around 2.2 million Palestinian refugees in Jordan most of which are actually citizens of the sovereign state.

The Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank consider themselves to be living in Palestine. They engage in efforts to have Palestine recognised in International forums. So 1.7 million Palestinians in Gaza and 870,000 in the West Bank registered as refugees are actually living in what they themselves claim (and seek recognition of) as Palestine.

The Palestinians have worked to maintain their inter-generational refugee status for one reason only: to keep the war of 1948 alive and avoid accepting its outcome in the form of the existence of a Jewish state in any part of the land.

To be clear, Palestinians do NOT have a ‘right of return’ into the sovereign state of Israel under any kind of International law. There is no precedent of a country being forced to accept a group of people against its will, and Palestinians, despite impressive efforts, cannot make up laws that gives them something that does not exist.

Oodiks · 21/10/2024 17:38

Kindatired · 20/10/2024 10:29

So people from Morocco and North Africaand their offspring who had no physical presence in the Holy Land since the Iron Age are living in the homes of the Palestinians that were expelled from there during the Nakba. The Palestinians should just suck it up and let another million settlers illegally occupy the West Bank. The Palestinians should go off to be an ethnic minority in someone else’s country and integrate themselves and leave Israel to the incomers. But Germany and the wealthy diaspora paid for the resettlement of Jewish people What has Israel offered to the Palestinians ? Also it seems to be accepted that Israel can annexe more and more territory but if the Oalestinians in the West Bank resist, they are terrorists

Can I remind you of the exodus of Jews from Arab lands at the same time as the Nakba? That and the fact that Jews have always lived in that geographical area since Judaism existed, and that long before 1948 Jews had been returning to 'Palestine' and buying land and property from the people living there in hopes of creating a Jewish state one day.

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Kindatired · 21/10/2024 18:08

What connection do Moroccan Arabs have to Palestinians other than religion? Is that not like saying that Irish and Italians are the same? Have you ever seen two Arabic speakers from different countries trying to speak together? And the Palestinian Arabs didn’t invite those people- they would have been just as safe in the UK where there were labour shortages at the time

Daftasabroom · 21/10/2024 18:34

Alwayslookonthe · 20/10/2024 02:09

Palestinians do NOT have a ‘right’ to return.

Throughout the world in the 1940s and 1950s (when the Palestinians became refugees) millions and millions of refugees were rehabilitated in the countries that had given them shelter.

600,000 Chineses fled to Hong Kong in 1949
It was tough, it was tragic, but they moved on.

14 million Hindu and Muslim refugees found shelter in India and Pakistan, respectively, following partition of the Indian subcontinent in 1947.
It was tough, it was tragic, but they moved on.

3.1 million fled North Korea to South Korea in the 1950-1953 conflict.
It was tough, it was tragic, but they moved on.

800,000 Jews had to flee Arab countries of Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia.
It was tough, it was tragic but they moved on.

10 million ethnic Germans were brutally expelled from Eastern Europe when the borders were redrawn, not because they were Nazis, just because they belonged to the ethnic group that had lost the war. They had lived there for centuries.
These ethnic German refugees also wanted to return to their birthplaces. They did not want to return under foreign rule meaning they wanted Germany to recapture these territories forcefully.
All of Germany’s political leaders paid lip service to the refugee’s demands and public ally supported them but, in reality, did nothing to advance them. Germany focussed on the refugee’s full integration into Germany and pursued wealth redistribution to achieve this. By the early 1960s, the voices demanding a return had all but disappeared.
The German Government realised that to pursue the refugee’s desire to return to their birthplace would have resulted in further conflict and war.
It was tough, it was tragic, but they moved on.

700,000 Palestinians were expelled from the Mandate in 1948.
It was tough, it was tragic but it is time to MOVE ON.

Maybe it's time for those who took land from Palestinians to move on?

SharonEllis · 21/10/2024 18:41

Daftasabroom · 21/10/2024 18:34

Maybe it's time for those who took land from Palestinians to move on?

Who do you mean and where should they move to?

Oodiks · 21/10/2024 18:43

Kindatired · 21/10/2024 18:08

What connection do Moroccan Arabs have to Palestinians other than religion? Is that not like saying that Irish and Italians are the same? Have you ever seen two Arabic speakers from different countries trying to speak together? And the Palestinian Arabs didn’t invite those people- they would have been just as safe in the UK where there were labour shortages at the time

What are you trying to say?

Perhaps you should have a look at Jewish immigration to the UK in the 30s and 40s?

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Daftasabroom · 21/10/2024 18:53

Cremacreme · 20/10/2024 06:43

They have a right to return home and it's their choice if they want to go back into unsafe conditions.

So they don’t actually have any protection & it’s dangerous to actually go back.

Why would it be unsafe for Palestinians to their former homelands? It's not like they've been subject to aggression, murder, ethnic cleansing by the Israelis? Oh, hang on, I got that wrong....

Kindatired · 21/10/2024 18:54

WW2 ended in 1945.

Oodiks · 21/10/2024 18:55

Kindatired · 21/10/2024 18:54

WW2 ended in 1945.

And?

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