RIP Shaban al-Dalou, and all the others slaughtered by those ghouls bombing hospitals of all places.

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When will this barbarity stop.

Don't give me that bullshit about Hamas hiding in hospitals. Just. Don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/16/civilians-trapped-in-northern-gaza-by-israeli-offensive-against-hamas

In the video you can see him engulfed in flames. How are ordinary civilians who don't have the equipment or fire fighting resources supposed to save him and the others? You can hear lots of panic and terrified screaming including those of children. People should be asking how the IDF can be so depraved!

How was anyone supposed to help him? You think all the emergency services are functioning like normal? Do you think all those desperate homeless, displaced people have fire fighting equipment?

And actually I think he probably would want his horrific death to be shown to the world, so that we can all bear witness to the cruelty and horror being inflicted.

@Zebrashavestripes "I'm not sure that videos like this should be shared with the world. It's quite undignified, don't you think? Or perhaps people think that in these cases the public interest overrides the right to privacy?"

Ordinarily, yes filming a dead body etc is undignified and should be respected but in this situation, we need it to be recorded, people need to bear witness to the atrocities committed by Israel. The Israeli government have killed off so many journalists and not allowed any to document what's been happening so mobile phone footage shared by civilians is all we have left to document what's going on. Otherwise the world would be blind to it. This story is already making the news and without the footage we have seen, no one would have been none the wiser to it. Someone said this is just one case but there are many many more like this happening that we are not privy to due to the lack of journalism in Gaza.

And what concessions will Israel make?

@Zebrashavestripes here's a prime example of a journalist being targeted and shot in the neck.

www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/17/al-jazeera-cameraman-in-a-coma-after-being-shot-by-israeli-forces?traffic_source=rss

Luckily I'm not negotiating, people much smarter than me are. But I guess it'd have to start with Israel stopping all military activities, and all further settlement, and coming up with a way of untangling all the different zones of occupation so that each people can have their separate area. Really hard to envision how this could happen, but I think it's the only way... and it's technically possible if logistically very difficult.

Also envision somehow getting families to sit down and talk to try to reset some of the hatred on both sides, perhaps like the Gacaca in Rwanda after the genocide there.

Then maybe after a few decades more reintegration could happen.

Think Netanyahu and the crazy right wingers out there need to go too, but he's not exactly popular in Israel and I hope that will happen soon anyway.

Still don't see why Israel should stop first though, given that Hamas started this with the awful atrocities of 7 Oct. So Hamas go first- surrender, give up hostages, and commit to allowing Isreal to exist without constant violence.

Sadly if there were no Hamas, there'd be another Iranian backed militia hell-bent on eradicating Israel.

This. Indeed.

I wonder what people think Israel's reaction to Oct 7th should have been? Why didn't the UN demand an immediate hostage release on Oct 8?

What an awful, awful way to die and to think he’s father had to witness that and the rest of his relatives.

What intrigues me is why none of the surrounding countries will countenance allowing any Gazan refugees in? I understand Egypt strengthened its border.

Is it because they want Gazans to remain in place like sitting ducks while Hamas run around like rats, beneath them? Or because they are nervous of having Gazans on their soil?

Why hasn't the MENA risen up in support of them? That's the biggest mystery to me.

One that respect the international rules of laws, rules signed up to by the Israeli government of the time.
Since when does Netanyahu take any notice of the UN?

This might explain why these are reluctant
Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza | AP News

Well its been said on here plenty of times that The UN is anti semitic so can be ignored.
More utter rubbish

Most of the people I have seen on the media outlets defending Israel and Zionism are either American or British.

🤔

poor Israel - surrounded by the barbaric Muslim Arab states, who want to get rid of all the Jews.

These Muslim just wake up one day wanting to kill people.

Yes Hamas is the problem, Hezbollah and Iran are the problem. Right. Okay.

Now get off this thread where we’re mourning a young man who burned to death.

So so sad. Shabbans 10 year old brother dies from his injuries.

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji’un

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Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un. May they be reunited in Jannat al-Firdaus, where there will be no more pain, no more fear or hunger, and they can be safe together again.

May he rest in peace.

Ameen

May he rest in peace .

May there be no more deaths like this .

💔 Bless them. May he rest in peace. Fly high little angel.

Their lives are unbearable at the moment. I hope for peace and healing

I've just seen that Shabaans sister has now passed away too. 😢

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.