How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

Do you think that if Mossad had evidence that the pagers had ended up in a significant number of civilian hands that they would have still detonated them?

The UK government clearly sets out its criteria in the link you have been directed to.

Fortunately the 26 member international community and not you @helen.....

This might help you Helen....

"The European Union designated Hizballah's military wing as a terrorist organization on 22 July 2013, following the March conviction that year of a Hizballah member in Cyprus, the July 2012 bus bombing in Bulgaria, and the group's intervention in Syria."

Hezbollah have operated for a long time causing death and destruction in various places.

Sorry, yes. I misread to think you were talking about the illegal settlers. I was not referring to Israel as a settlement and I definitely do not want my words to be read as that because it is not my belief. Sorry

I believe they would, yes.

However, the intelligence out there shows that hezbollah members use them as a method of communication to avoid detection! They could use mobiles for communication of their terrorist activities but they chose pagers. Very few people actually use pagers anymore. The ones that went off stopped being manufactured over 10 years ago showing the market has declined drastically.

I am not talking about illegal settlements in the WB

Aren’t people who mention ‘settlers’ generally referring to those in the WB, or else to those Israelis who have extremist views and believe all the land is theirs?

Settlements and certain settlers on the WB are affecting how Israel is perceived for the worse, imo. As are certain ministers encouraging what appears to be lawlessness there.

When I think of ‘illegal settlements’ it is in
reference to those in the West Bank considered illegal under international law; and also referring to settlers who bully and harass Palestinians in the West Bank to get them off their land ( or, for example, go and poison their sheep or burn down their house or car, or kill them.)

Example of “illegal settlements” from Haaretz:

July

^Israel Erected 25 New Illegal Outposts in West Bank Since Gaza War Started
A new report from NGO Peace Now analyzes various actions by the Israeli government directed at deepening the annexation process, like advancing approvals for 8,721 new housing units and classifying about 9.3 square miles as state land^

Since the start of the war in Gaza, 25 illegal outposts have been erected throughout the West Bank, and the Israeli government has advanced approvals for of 8,721 new housing units, according to a new report from NGO Peace Now.

….

August

'They Came to Kill': After Israeli Settler Attack on Palestinian Village, Locals Fear There's No One to Save Them

Residents of the West Bank village of Jit, where Israeli settlers killed a 23-year-old man Thursday, say the onslaught was a well-planned attack that they worry will happen again

The quiet in the northern West Bank village of Jit was broken at around 7 P.M. Thursday. According to villagers, about a hundred masked people in black shirts approached from nearby settlements carrying M16 rifles, handguns, bars and stones. The terrified villagers barricaded themselves in their homes.

America Is Coming for Israel's Far-right Ministers Who Hail Settler Violence

The longer settler violence continues unabated, the graver the consequences will be, and the more justified international leaders appear in taking their own punitive measures

No idea as that’s not the case. But the geneva convention says that you can’t detonate them unless you’re 100% sure who has got them, same thing with the walkie talkies.

I think you may have confused two stories. The two-way radios were manufactured in Japan, but they haven't been produced for 10 years. The pagers are still manufactured in Taiwan.

@1dayatatime
The killing of thousands upon thousands of children is unjustifiable.

Hiroshima is mostly seen as a war crime today.

Not when they refer to the founding of the state of Israel.

Read my post again. You are deliberately misunderstanding what I wrote.
You also assume a lot about me. Who said I studied or taught in the UK ?
Eye for an eye is found in all Abrahamic faiths. So no, I wasn't misquoting it. I didn't quote all of it; that's it.
I also find you accusatory tone unwelcome to say the least.

Exactly. The question completely ignores the ongoing occupation and terrorisation of Palestinians and the theft and destruction of Palestinian land and infrastructure. If a person wants a question answered in good faith then the question should be asked in good faith. This one was not.

And yet the question was thoughtfully written & legitimate, and you refuse to answer it. OK.

@Cillianlikegillian

"The killing of thousands upon thousands of children is unjustifiable.

Hiroshima is mostly seen as a war crime today."

I agree that the killing of even one innocent child in any conflict is abhorrent but the combatants on either side will always end up describing it as regrettable and unfortunate collateral damage in order to kill combatants on the other side.

For example if one side destroyed an opposing army of say 2000 soldiers but one innocent child is killed then can that ever be justified.

As for the bombing of Hiroshima being described as a war crime then that would pretty much make any military action taken anywhere where civilian casualties occurred in pretty much every conflict in history a war crime.

I don't think it was legitimate. If the poster wants to frame it in a most balanced way I'm sure people will take the time to answer it.

I wonder what the pager team have thought up next?

No idea but I certainly wouldn't want to be working in the IT department of Hezbollah right now and their helpline will certainly be experiencing "higher than average call times ".

What a ridiculous and offensive accusation. This has nothing to do with the religion of the person writing it, it's to do with their framing of the Israeli/Palestinian situation.

Their framing came from their position as a Jewish person. Its concerning that you consider that grounds for dismissing their question.

If they ever want to acknowledge the wrongs perpetuated by Israel against Palestine and Palestinians, and have a balanced discussion about it the situation, I look forward to it.

Given your disgusting accusations against me I'm not going to continue this with you. Cheerio.

It just sounds like you are trying to justify the unjustifiable @1dayatatime.

Thanks Hirosima meant that the Japanese stopped fighting. How many more would have died if the war with Japan went on longer.

My dad's uncle was a Japanese prisoner of war. War is awful, however, no one should just not fight back.