How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

So in summary:

Israel either in co operation with Gold Apollo or BAC managed to win a contract with Hezbollah for the purchase of 5000 pagers.

Hezbollah then paid Israel / BAC / Gold Apollo for these pagers.

Hezbollah then distributed these pagers to its most senior people.

So Israel got its enemy Hezbollah to pay Israel for the devices that then injured or killed senior Hezbollah terrorists and got

In addition Israel has been able to track the movements of these people for the last two months.

This has to be the most successful and targeted anti terrorist operation in history ever.

If I’m wrong then why most of the world is asking Israel to stop bombing Gaza and West Bank and also that they should have not proceeded with yesterdays and todays attacks ?

I’ll repeat again what US security spokesman has said today “additional military operations were not the way to solve the crisis.”

if what Israel is doing is the right thing then why there is not a single international organisation and country clapping for Israel’s actions? why are there international courts condemning Israel as an occupying country and the will be an arrest request against their president for committing war crimes ?

Agree you can’t let bullies win. Nentanhayu is a bully. He’s got his political agenda and doesn’t give a shit about Israeli citizens at all.

@HelenHen

Hmmm - sorry I am struggling to muster much sympathy for the deaths and injuries of members of a prescribed terrorist group.

Yes it is tragic that an innocent 8 year old girl is reported to have died but maybe if her dad had gone and got a normal job rather than become a terrorist it could easily have been avoided.

Or alternatively it could be because of Irish politicians rich history of supporting terrorists?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Crisis

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · Today 22:29

Israelis & Jews are the people best placed to spot who wants to do them harm.

And we will prevent it.

If you meant sabotaging the Hezbollah pagers would prevent Hezbollah from harming Israel, is that really the case? Will it lead to the Israelis who had to leave their homes in the north being able to return? Or, lead to the hostages being released soon under a ceasefire?

There should be no 'but' in your sentence.

I actually can't imagine laughing and joking at deaths, no matter who they are. My country has known its fair share of conflict, and if something like this had been committed by my people, I'd be very upset and uncomfortable... genuinely!

@HelenHen It might be helpful if you seek out actual Lebanese and Syrian voices on this, both in the Middle East and their communities in the West. They're the ones creating the memes. They're the ones making the jokes. They are celebrating for a reason. (Many of them hate Israel too, so you'll find some common ground).

The people who seem to have the biggest problem with this attack - on an Iranian-backed terrorist organisation - are clueless Western 'saviours' who can't see past their loathing for Israel.

I don't see them here! If I did I would give out to them too. To say 'well they started it' or 'they laugh too' is just childish.

Can we have a grown up in the room please? Otherwise this bullshit will never end 😭

Oh no, it's cool. It's very cool. It's the exact opposite of a pager cool.

The sheer chutzpah of some people, including several posters on this thread, is utterly staggering.

Hezbollah has been bombing Israel for 11 months now. Unprovoked. Indiscriminate. War crimes and acts of genocide if ever there was any.

In any other context their actions would have been seen as a clear declaration of war. I mean imagine if Finland had been bombing Russia for the past 11 months as an act of support for Ukraine. Is there even a single person who wouldn't recognise this as an act of war?

How dare Hezbollah attack innocent Israelis? And when there is some retribution, suddenly Israel is the bad guy? Are we living on the same planet?

Hmmm - this thread doesn't seem to be going the way of the normal echo chamber threads on "Conflict in the Middle East".

Still I'm sure it will soon be forgotten and reverting back to threads like "I don't know much about middle east politics but could someone please explain me why [insert something emotive] is happening.

Is the eu spokesperson a western saviours who can’t see past their loathing for Israel ?
is the UN spokesperson a western saviours who can’t see past their loathing for Israel ?
is the US security spokesperson spokesperson a western saviours who can’t see past their loathing for Israel ?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

It's always sad when innocents get caught up in violence. It's worse when it's because of bad parenting

It's sheer genius

Ireland came out of hundreds of years of conflict, a famine, a civil war... and you claim the fact they didn't take in many jews proves what exactly? That they hate jewish people? Could it just be that they were tired, poor and hungry and somebody elses war was the last thing on their minds? You don't hear Irish people going on about how Israel didn't help them in the troubles. Nope, because it's irrelevant and ridiculous.

15000 children killed in Gaza. It's more than sad. And you can't blame their parents for their deaths.

I'm not sure what thread you're reading... I'd imagine people see the laughing and joking at a terrorist attack and wisely steer clear.

It really doesn't take long for the anti Irish rhetoric to rear its head when politicians fairly criticise war crimes perpetrated by Israel.

It's crazy how people convince themselves of that.

Thankfully those type of old fashioned views are dying out, Israels numerous crimes have been laid bare in court and it's clear that they haven't just been sitting on their hands while everyone hates on them for no reason. That myth has well and truly been busted. It really is only a matter of time now before sanctions start to be implemented and there will be a real domino effect, once the first few countries do it the rest will be relieved that they can too. The truth can't be put back in the box at this point, Israel are an illegal occupying force, committing horrendous crimes against International law, the rulings are out there now.

Posters here can bluster and pretend all they like but the law is against them and they know it just like the EU knows, the UN knows and even the US knows.

Israel has been bombing Lebanon the past 11 months too, and with 4x the attacks. They’ve been retaliating, so this is not a case of Israel only now retaliating and suddenly being bad guys.

This type of attack is what is unconscionable- putting explosives in commercially available devices that could have been sold on to civilians. They had no way of knowing who they’d hurt, and sure enough over half the casualties might have been civilians, if the report of only 8 in 24 deaths were Hezbollah is credible. The 2 children certainly were innocents.

If the Hezbollah rockets which have killed 32 in 11 months is “genocide” and a “war crime” then surely you’d agree that Gaza and West Bank are also war crimes and genocides?

@ToBeDetermined

What's your point, that in war you can only fight back a bomb for a bomb?

Hezbollah/Lebanon has declared war on Israel unprovoked. And they've been at it for 11 months. Genocidal acts of war crimes. Unprovoked.

Israel should annihilate them to a combatant - or even potential combatant. When you start a war and keep at it for 11 months you haven't got the right to dictate the other side's response.

If there's a small amount of collateral damage in the course of Israel's response, so be it. Sad but necessary. In war there is collateral damage. No war has ever been fought without any.

If Hezbollah don't want collateral damage they should stop trying to genocide Israel. They can all fuck off to Iran - I'm pretty sure the ordinary Lebanese folk wouldn't mind that either.

And BTW in my opinion genocide is determined by actions and intent, rather than outcome.

When Gazaans fired 100,0+ rockets at Israel in the past 18 years, indiscriminately targeting civilians, that was an act of genocide. Regardless of their competence or of Israel's defence capabilities.

Ditto for Hezbollah in the past 11 months. They have been trying to annihilate Israel but that will never happen. Rather, they'll feel the wrath of the Almighty.

Are you saying that Ireland was actively involved in the terrorist bombing campaign against Britain? I don't think you're supposed to say that bit out loud.

I literally said nothing like that. Where are you reading those words?