How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

Israel plans exceptionally well

indeed , they don’t care for other peoples lives and about international laws

Are you about to tell me that lebanese civilians are really fond of walkie talkies just as they all really really wanted a pager?

It's not my opinion that Hezbollah is freely operating in Lebanon, it's a fact. It's not my opinion that Hezbollah is firing missiles and drones into Israel on a daily basis and that the Lebanese state does nothing to stop it, it's a fact.
I am not an expert on international law so idea what it says about this kind of situation but you can't expect one side to abide by international law and the other side to completly ignore it. No country would sacrficie its citizens to international law

My money would be on some sort of virus developed by the Israeli securty force which when triggered caused the batteries to catch fire.

If you think that sounds impossibly convoluted, read about the Stuxnet attack and the lengths the MOSAD went to to destroy centrifuges in Iran by infecting Windows PCs with a virus designed to activate and destroy a particular make and model of centrifuge.

Israel didn't start this war with Hezbollah. You can't fire missiles and drones into a country on a daily basis and then cry when they respond.

The children killed in Golan Heights were Druze, not Bedouin so your link is irrelevant.

Just covered this on BBC world service re the funerals and walkie talkies

It is incredibly rare to do this supply chain type attack on the physical item

I'm not sure you understand how conflict works. When a country is being relentlessly attacked it is not really reasonable to expect them to care about the lives of foreign combatants like the terrorists of Hezbollah. War is hell.

This really. It’s extraordinary the victim mentality here.

it’s not only the Lebanese government doing nothing to stop it, it’s also the UN ‘peacekeeping’ forces.

Apart from the fact that the children murdered by Hezbollah were Druze, you may be aware that Israeli special forces risked their lives to rescue one Bedouin israeli who had been kidnapped and held hostage by Hamas. Bedouin hostages were also included in the earlier hostage deals. So clearly they do care about Bedouin (who were also killed on October 7th by Hamas).

How many times do people have to talk about International law? Israel have broken international humanitarian law on their attacks in Lebanon. War has rules. Israel are continually disregarding them. It isn't anti Israel to refuse to cheer them on as they do it.

This. There are posters on this thread that seem to think Israel should just accept being fired at and not retaliate.

What now, I wonder? Some reports are suggesting that Israel may now carry out a land invasion of Lebanon while Hezbollah's communications are essentially knocked out.

@StupidFarang you don't seem to have too much of a clue about Judaism in Ireland. Read a Wikipedia page or something. Just because the Irish government doesn't support ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Israel doesn't mean they have an issue with Jews.

It would make sense. It gives me hope that this could really make a difference, for once and for all.

Hope is the last thing that would give me in terms of peace either globally or in the middle east.

Do you mean like this Wikipedia page that seems to suggest Ireland has a pretty significant antisemitism problem? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ireland#:~:text=Antisemitism-,In%20politics,their%20antisemitic%20speech%20and%20behavior.

I would hope that they just draw a line under it and Hezbollah sit down and shut up. No need for anymore death in Lebanon. But of course the numpties won’t and Iran will probably raise another stupid flag of revenge.

They could just stop firing at Israel, it’s an easy fix, just pack it in.

This is a really worrying escalation. Hezbollah and Israel have already been attacking and retaliating against each other for almost a year now. Over 500 Lebanese have been killed by IDF bombs while over 30 Israelis have been killed by Hezbollah rockets- including the massacre of a dozen Druze children in one strike. Not all the victims have been Hezbollah or IDF.

I don’t think there was a need for Israel to do this attack either for defence or retaliation. Israel had not been ignoring or patiently letting Hezbollah attack- they have been attacking back with greater force even before these exploding pagers.

Now there are reportedly more explosions happening in Lebanon in public areas.

I wonder what it will do for the ceasefire deal? I really think the ceasefire needs to be for the entire region. The last ceasefire failed partially because it was only for Gaza and the West Bank attacks continued as did the Lebanon border attacks. There needs to be a blanket ceasefire. Everyone needs to stop the killing.

No idea why you are attacking Irish people especially based on humanitarian grounds. I would suggest you research Ireland in WW2 a country that had only just become a Republic, had just recovered from a war of independence, then a civil war and an occupation of it's own and was still very much divided and traumatised. Ireland had no one from anywhere for many many decades it wasn't exclusive to Jewish people. We were a country of emigrants until the late 90s. The county was on its knees. Yes mistakes were made by the new government, the first government to rule Ireland for hundreds of years, to be so critical of them is pretty unfair given their circumstances.

Are they at war now ?

I won’t mention international law as Israel doesn’t give a shit about them

Sky News are now reporting that 'home solar energy systems' are exploding. Oh my, I though 'just' the pagers were extraordinary, but it seems that there could be more...

@TheOliveGoose

"Do you have any idea what life was like in Ireland in the 1940s? Honestly the ignorance is staggering"

Life in Ireland during the 1940s was positively prosperous and peaceful compared to what was happening in Europe where they had this thing called WW2 going on. You might have heard of it.

Honestly the ignorance is staggering.

What is a 'blanket ceasefire'? Ceasefires come about by different parties agreeing to deals that have a large number of component parts. Though there are a lot of similar issues (most notably Hamas, Hezbollah & Iran all wanting to wipe Israel & Jews off the face of the earth) The more countries involved, the more detail and the more difficult it is to achieve. If 'hey kids, just stop the killing' worked, don't you think it would have happened?