How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

Yeh sorry. I've had 2 long days and going to sleep now.

I wasn't wrong though... she's neither hezbollah nor hamas 😳

The psychological element to this is interesting too, any Hezbollah members who use pagers that weren’t impacted today will now likely be disposing of them to neutralise any future possible ‘threat’. Will they be willing to still use pagers going forward or actually now revert to using traceable mobile phones?

A nine year old terrorist?

I do feel sorry for the Lebanese being caught up in the terrorist mess.

The nine year old was not attacked.

I think you are getting confused as to who Israel were targeting.

They were killed.

Present your argument 😂😂

People defending Israel using international laws of armed conflict make me laugh. As if Israel gives a shit about the Geneva conventions. So why bother to make this argument on their behalf?

They fall at the first hurdle here. Who carried out the attack? Are they even lawful combatants? Surely if they were Israel would have owned up to it by now? They haven't because they know they acted illegally.

They weren't killed, they died.

You might think that's just semantics, but it matters.

Israel might not care (I agree with you) but the signatories care and they are the ones who will step in if Israel contravenes it (which they haven't).

'Lawful combatants'? Are any members of either Hamas or Hezbollah 'lawful combatants'?

Of course it matters. She was killed by Israel.

@FixTheBone

"It was indiscriminate, israel had no way of knowing fkr sure who was holding, or was near even one, never mind all of the devices"

You have a curious definition of indiscriminate. It was as precision an attack as is possible in a conflict. Targeting pagers only owned by members of Hezbollah where the explosion doesn't affect bystanders.
Yes it was tragic that a 10 year old girl was killed but given the number of explosions the innocent death toll is exceptionally low.

What is indiscriminate however is Hezbollah firing unguided rockets across the border, trying to start forest fires and the killing of innocent civilians.

@amigafan2003 I was thinking about this comment of yours. The zone is a conflict zone (so is golan heights and Israel atm).
do you think the killing of children few weeks ago in golan was acceptable ? Or does this only apply to when Palestinian and Lebanese civilians are killed ?

They were killed by a terrorist organisation that targeted civilians deliberately so of course it's unacceptable.

So when idf targets civilians deliberately is this unacceptable as well? Or unluckily as it’s a conflict zone and things like this happens? I just want to understand how killing Palestinians / Lebanese citizens is justified in any scenario as it’s not in any scenario for me

1: It was likely Mossad, not the IDF that orchestrated today's attack.
2: They didn't deliberately target civilians.

As to if civilian deaths are justified I've covered all this in my previous posts.

I'm reluctant to have a doorbell camera, yet do have a mobile - it's a Samsung phone post 2019 so no longer made in China I believe.

I don’t understand how anyone on here can be anything other than impressed that Hezbollah have had so much of their military capability taken out with so little loss of life.

I'm deeply impressed by Israel's audacious attack on a terrorist organisation that's been responsible for almost 11 months of bombing Israel and the displacement of c100,000 people (something the press don't cover all that often for some reason (though I can guess what it might be)).

Of course the loss of innocent life is deeply regrettable but the ratio of combatant injuries to civilians is truly remarkable.

Weren't 12 Israeli children killed on a football pitch recently?

"Golan Heights attack: Community devastated by deadly rocket strike on football pitch | World News | Sky News" https://news.sky.com/story/amp/wretched-moment-for-community-devastated-by-rocket-attack-on-football-pitch-13186598

The attack is quite ingenious in its conception, design and execution.

It had to happen simultaneously or the damage would be far more limited because the later fighters would simply get rid of their pagers. The fact that it is a communication device meant those fighters whose pagers first went off probably could not easily contact the rest of the network to warn them. Maybe the pager even beeped like normal at first so that the person would take it out to look at it and have it in their hand fairly close to their face before it detonated.

Very interesting. I expect some people's imaginations would be set alight.

Were they Israeli? It happened in illegally occupied Syrian land, I'm not sure their nationality was ever released but given that 80% of Druze identify as Syrian I think it's unlikely all of the children were Israeli.

I saw a report to that effect on Twitter. It stated that a shipment of pagers on its way to Hezbollah was intercepted.

Utterly tasteless to make a joke about this situation.

not funny, not clever.