Is the current rioting in the UK linked to Gaza?

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Although the Southport killings were the trigger for rioting in the UK has the focused attention on Gaza including mass marches lead to a new sectarianism in the UK? I am not condoning mindless thuggery in any way but do we now have a situation where mainly Muslim Gaza supporters "squaring off' with EDL/extreme reform types.

How do you balance the right to expression and to assemble with what is becoming a challenging police operarion?

I definitely feel more sorry for those who have been, or are afraid of being targeted, perhaps I should have made that clear.

I won’t take my own children into our nearest town at the moment (I am white, they are not) even though I don’t believe in changing my actions in response to intimidation, and think the risk is small. I don’t need to go there, and it seems sensible to wait for this wave of violence to pass. I realise I am lucky I can avoid it!

Absolutely. And 'intifada now'.

oh I see the “two-tier/ insert what phrase you would like to use to describe the unfair moderating” moderators are out in force.

I fully support Muslims and all other people targeted by these violent thugs, or fearful for their safety due to the riots.

There's no place for racially-motivated violence and aggression in our society. Not by anyone. Not for any reason.

I'm very glad that the police are arresting them. I hope they continue to - both as a deterrent to perpetrators, and also to give people confidence that they will be protected.

Oh OK, I agree with you that it isn't right when minorities are harassed. Yes, hopefully the police will find everyone involved and there is no suggestion from the police or government that ethnicity or religion or skin colour will affect whether or not someone is prosecuted so that's great.

I'm glad you don't buy into and aren't repeating the 'two tier policing' myth as others on this thread are 🙂

Absolutely agree. Everyone is at risk in this type of situation but some communities are particularly vulnerable and must be feeling very fearful. I am fully supportive of a strong deterrent for the perpetrators.
The reasons why some groups of people are disaffected and feel neglected by government needs to be addressed further down the line when order is restored.

It definitely did happen in Birmingham I love quite close and know the area well.

Absolutely nothing to do with Gaza at all.

This was a callers reason for the riots.

www.instagram.com/reel/C-TD6C7IO8w/?igsh=d2dpczVjaW5rbjRt

I agree racially motivated attacks are abhorrent and no one should be afraid
But people are.

No signs of the Police let alone any arrests in Birmingham.
Assault, vandalism, weapons galore, racist chanting from the solely Muslim rioters.
2 tier policing in full view.

Good luck.
The bloke with the lacerated liver did get an apology from community leaders (including one who was seen brandishing a sword the day before) though.

See above

@Bunnyasmyname there has been an arrest aswell as investigations into the other incidents.

You have the Internet clearly, why did you not fact check yourself before posting and spreading misinformation?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jll4rk7w5o.amp

OK I apologise. Out of the 2500 rioters, they arrested 5.
Bravo the Police.

Did all of the 2500 people commit crimes that they could be arrested for? Or are you expecting everyone that was there to be arrested? Have you expected that of all of the other riots, that every single person is arrested? How is that working out? If you are pronouncing that there is 2 tier policing you must know all of the facts right?

Did you miss the part where it said that investigations are still running?

And where did you see that there was 2500 Muslim rioters that were breaking the law and racist chanting?
You are just making things up now.

Exactly.
There's two tier standards on display by the poster themself.

No but I would expect any rioters chanting hate speech, whatever colour or religion they were, to be arrested.

I would also expect any rioters, what ever colour or religion, branishing illegal weapons to be arrested.

I know more about these riots than the other as I watched it live.

Absolutely. No matter what colour skin or whichever creed these rioters belong to, hate speech stirs up tensions. Carrying offensive weapons is a crime.

You watched it live so you know that 2500 people committed crimes or where did you pull that number from? First you say they made zero arrests that was wrong, now you are saying 5 out of 2500 are you saying that that is wrong too? Do you you usually just make things up or are you making an exception for this?

The police have made arrests and are continuing their investigations. I don't think anyone would disagree that those committing crimes should be arrested, least of all the police who said "we are working hard to find anyone that has been involved in this; and (our) message to you is that we will find you and we will arrest you". Where is this 2 tier policing?

Little Tommy's followers are panicking, they've co-ordinated for months via social media amplifying videos of minorities committing "crimes" blaming it all on immigration and the boats.

Unfortunately (for them) the majority of the great British public are not enamoured by their behaviour and are ashamed and embarrassed and are standing with the abused. Hence the amplification of the Birmingham incident and the attempt to connect it to the Palestine marches.
This is Walthamstow right now, anti racists of every colour standing together against the rioters (who are slowly realising that whilst Tommy suns himself in Ayia Napa, a lot of them are facing hard time).

How many arrests have been done from those that set fire to a hotel ? And from those that have been rioting across the country in the last week? Do you know the %?

I don't know. Not enough I'd imagine.
The Police are wholly inadequate at all of this atm.

Are you saying groups of people aren't treated differently by the Police because of their backgrounds?
I think they are.
Minimal arrests for the anti-semitic flags, banners and chants at Pro-Palestinian rallies, a disproportionate number of young black men arrested.

You obviously don't agree with that, but don't try and bully people because they dare to have a different opinion to you.

@Bunnyasmyname I disagree that there was two tier policing taking place during the Birmingham disorder that people keep trying to claim as if Muslims somehow get preferential treatment by the police. Perhaps I'm extra touchy because of all the hate so I apologise for that.
I will ask MN to remove my comment.