War Hezbollah and Israel

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News seem to indicate a war between Israel and Hezbollah seems imminent , hopefully they’re wrong

Biden has said they’ll support Israel and several ships are on their way to support Israel

from what I’ve read , hezbollah has got more and stronger weapons than Hamas in Gaza

I can only think about how many innocent civilians are going to die because incompetent politicians and many times men.

Absolutely agree @PeasfullPerson , boycott because of the social contract and laws being broken.

The issue was, as happens with breaking events a lot of disinformation was presented as fact. For example there was a picture of an exploded IPhone that was shared widely saying it exploded in Lebanon (the phone actually exploded in Egypt last year so unrelated). This caused a panic, exactly what the explosions were designed to do, except it was meant to be specifically for the Lebanese people, instead it has panicked a lot of people around the world.

The good thing is that some of the batteries were not in the devices when the signal was sent. So the Lebanese government have these and can carry out a full investigation.

Not sure terrorists are worth a 'social contract' if fighting terrorists involved social contract then you'd always lose.

It's good that the Lebanese government can help the terrorists Hezbollah so that they can carry on firing missiles into Israel? Bizarre

I think its pretty much the definition of a terrorist that they have not signed up to the 'social contract'.

Well what a relief that the Lebanese 'government' (that has absolutely no record of corruption or terrorist activities itself, ever, honest guv) will look into how the enemy it's been bombing indiscriminately for the last 11 months performed a highly targeted attack on its illegal terrorists. Excuse me if I don't wait for anything remotely useful to come from it because some kind of 'social contract' has been broken. 60,000 Israelis haven't been home for almost a year due to the social contract of not bombing people without provocation has been broken. In comparison to c3000 terrorists being highly targeted in a communications-focus attack, I know I can rest easy at night.

Cue someone saying that Israel has been bombing Gaza indiscriminately for 11 months, etc. I'd like to remind you that Hamas broke a 'social contract' by invading Israel, massacring 1200 innocents and kidnapping 250 people as a declaration of war. Lebanon is allegedly not at war with Israel - so why the constant rocket attacks???

Theres this strange idea that you can’t do something unless the risk of collatorsl damage is zero. Hezbollah started bombing Israel on the 8th October before Israel had mounted a response to 7th October. They made it clear at that point they were a threat to the territorial integrity of Israel.

It’s so strange to me that it’s ok for Hamas to attack Israel but not for Israel to attack back and it’s ok for Hezbollah to attack Israel but not for Israel to attack back. You bomb someone then they kick you back and then you roll around on the floor crying “look what those bastards did”!!

I have my own views on the way Israel conducts itself sometimes. I think they are very often very wrong. But equally I think it’s neighbours are demented religious nutcases. Yaha Sinwar is definitely a total psychopath. I read a transcript of a podcast interview with an american based in the area who had been invited to attend a conference in Gaza (in more peaceful times) Hamas were discussing what to do with the Jews (their terminology not mine), whether they should all be killed (planned an actual genocide) or whether they should keep the ones with skills in healthcare and IT and make them work for them (slavery).

Israel doesn’t use it’s population as a human shield. The assassination of Hezbollah second in command today, I was on a Lebanese forum where people were wondering why the hell he chose to hold his meetings in a densely populated area, the consensus was because the civilians provided a shield, these people generally hate Israel but they also are able to see when they are being used (theres a joke going around that Iran will fight to the last Lebanese) . Sinwar has stated over and over that he doesn’t care how many Palestinians die, it’s extraordinary really.

I mean it’s mad. The middle east is utterly mad. Hezbollah have been fighting for Asad killing Syrians. The idea that it’s really mean to target Hezbollah members or that you can wage any kind of warfare without civilian casualties is utterly naive.

Show me one conflict where there weren’t civilian casualties, just one. Ideally no-one dies. But we are all here because Hamas decided to murder 1200 people and kidnap, rape and torture it’s way through bits of Israel and it was actually targeting civilians including children. On purpose. All of this stems from that one action. Thats terrorism. Accidentally harming civilians is not the same thing.

Well they still haven’t managed to investigate the port bombing, so there may be a backlog. Lebanese people don’t deserve their government or Hezbollah.

Exactly. Social contracts don't appear high on the list of Lebanon or its terrorist organisation hezbollah. Hundreds of missiles aren't part of a social contract, I can understand the need to do something to reduce the number if missiles coming at you.

The people of Lebanon deserve better. As do the people of Gaza. As do the people of Iran. As do the people of Syria. As do the people of Yeman. All the innocent people in countries that don't value their own people and concentrate their efforts on destroying people in other countries. Its incredibly sad.

I agree the naivety is staggering.

As do the people of Israel deserve a better government than the current one as well.

Agree

Also agree

I just want to point out that nothing I said means that I don’t care about civilian casualties wherever and whoever they are. I saw a picture of a little girl killed in Lebanon today, it was heartbreaking. Feel the same way when I see Palestinian children covered in dirt and blood, shaking with trauma or when I see the pictures of Israeli children who have been killed or kidnapped. I don’t think many are unmoved by the loss of children especially.

I have a lot less sympathy for people who choose to wage wars against others. In this specific case Hamas and Hezbollah have both been the immediate aggressors. Both have volunteer militants, no-one is conscripted, people choose this. People chose to rape and murder children. There was a ceasefire in place, they did not have to do that. This is what happens when you start a war, people get killed.

I still remember seeing videos of people celebrating the 7th October attack in the UK and I couldn’t believe it. I just thought “you callous stupid bastards, have you got any care for what will happen now, do you have any idea that Hamas have just brought down a war on their peoples heads”. The same people are probably marching for a ceasefire and complaining about civilian deaths. Well yeah couldn’t see that coming could you.

Agree

I agree. Madness.

Qatar airlines is adding them and id not be surprised if this got extended worldwide and to all airlines

Haaretz

Hezbollah and Iran Stick to Their Strategy in Gaza War, Leaving Israel to Decide What Comes Next
Hezbollah is not falling into Israel's trap, and has signaled it will not stray from its guiding strategy in the Gaza war – supporting Hamas without plunging into an all-out regional war that would implicate Iran

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2024-09-20/ty-article/.premium/hezbollah-and-iran-stick-to-their-strategy-leaving-israel-to-decide-what-comes-next/00000192-0bca-d3e3-a7b6-4bce3d130000

Well done hezbollah just keep lobbing in the missiles 🙄 they are not the heroes some think they are. They would be stupid to take on Israel.

Hopefully, peace talks for Gaza might resume if sinwar deems OK.

"Supporting Hamas"? a sort of Terrorists R Us, do you mean?

It is excellent news if a crippled Hezbollah is planning to curtail its levels of unprovoked violent attack on Israel.

I don’t mean anything . It’s haaretzs words the ones I’ve posted

It doesn’t sound like there will be a ceasefire soon

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-deal-unlikely-before-end-of-bidens-term-u-s-officials-say-efc21510

It's sad.
The conflict goes on, more innocents die, the hostages still remain and are at risk of bring executed like the last ones were.

Hezbollah continue to add fuel by firing missiles into Israel. Although they have some senior commanders who were hit and their command and control centre has been located and hit. It feels like Israel have finally had enough of both hamas and hezbollah and won't stop.

So the men who 'lead' continue to fight whilst innocents die.

Terrorists R Us indeed with Hamas and Hezbollah supporting each other and yet ignoring the plight of its own women and children 😥

It’s such a waste of life.