War Hezbollah and Israel

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News seem to indicate a war between Israel and Hezbollah seems imminent , hopefully they’re wrong

Biden has said they’ll support Israel and several ships are on their way to support Israel

from what I’ve read , hezbollah has got more and stronger weapons than Hamas in Gaza

I can only think about how many innocent civilians are going to die because incompetent politicians and many times men.

Could we just be clear - you are suggesting that there is some sort of equivalence between Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah - is that right?

It's illegal to support one 'side' but it isn't even seen as shameful to support the other.

And you have a problem with it being illegal to support the proscribed terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah - is that right?

@SharonEllis I am struggling to see the difference between Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah these days.

It isn't fair game to break international law though is it? I haven't seen any posters here calling Hezbollah or Hamas 'audacious'. I haven't seen people making jokes about blown up Israelis. They aren't supported by our governments, we aren't arming them and funding them and that's the right thing to do. It's the right thing to stop arming and funding anyone who breaks international law.

No other people would be required to turn the other cheek quite as much as Israel is expected to.

I think Palestinians, the people who have been living under apartheid and illegal occupation for decades and who aren't allowed an army to defend themselves, would very much disagree with your assessment.

What makes one side 'truly genocidal maniacs' and the other not? Both side spout genocidal rhetoric, both sides kill civillians, both sides break International law. It's not hard to see why illegal occupiers who have run a horrific apartheid regime for decades might not be popular with their neighbours. Just like it isn't hard to see why Hamas or Hezbollah may not be popular. They are all awful and that should be recognised.

No I for one don't expect Israel to turn the other cheek, but nor do I expect government ministers to publicly make frankly maniacal statements which just inflame an already catastrophic situation.

No, I have a problem with it not even being seen as shameful to support illegal occupiers who commit apartheid and have been breaking international law for decades. To support anyone that spout genocidal rhetoric, I clearly said that both sides should be loudly condemned.

I am saying that anyone, no matter the country or organisation, that breaks International law shouldn't be supported by our governments and our citizens.

This is some info on the back ground of those running Israel and currently the IDF themselves are talking about Jewish terrorism running with free rein in the West bank
Otzma Yehudit, or “Jewish Power,” is, in fact, just the newest face of the old Kach party, the radical movement founded decades ago by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, the most infamous Jewish extremist of the latter 20th century. By offering them a shot at government, Netanyahu is giving the stamp of approval to a party as rooted in terrorism as Hamas.That’s only been reinforced by his declaration on April 7 that he would annex the West Bank settlements — seen by Otzma Yehudit as part of Israel’s divine mandate.

Netanyahu’s Far-Right Partners Were Birthed by U.S. Terrorists – Foreign Policy

270 killed. 21 were children
31 women

The UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon(Unifil) issued a statement on Monday afternoon expressing “grave concern for the safety of civilians in southern Lebanon amidst the most intense Israeli bombing campaign since last October and urging the need for de-escalation from both Hezbollah and Israel.

“Any further escalation of this dangerous situation could have far-reaching and devastating consequences, not only for those living on both sides of the Blue line, but also for the broader region,” the statement read. Unifil also added that “attacks on civilians are not only violations of international law, but may amount to war crimes” in unusually stern wording for the peacekeeping body.

Here is the said government minister statement regarding Lebanon sovereignty and his very helpful re-drawing of the border.

He then goes on to say that Syria and Iraq do not meet the definition of a state either.

Oh, and has the cheek to quote UN resolutions!

You can google translate the post

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So once again, why don’t Hizbollah stop firing rockets?

They said they would stop firing rockets when there is a ceasefire in Gaza.
The majority of people in the UK want a ceasefire in Gaza - not a repeat in Lebanon of what they have been witnessing in Gaza.

Eh? Firing rockets into Israel is justified as Israel are defending themselves on another border? I don’t particularly like the French at the moment and back in 1066 they invaded us, maybe we should set up a few rocket launchers on the South Coast in civilian centres (I don’t want to get hurt myself) and lob some rockets over. If the French retaliate we can blame them can’t we?

Well one difference is that Israel tries to protects its own people whereas Hamas and Hezbollah deliberately put them in harm’s way.
Why would Hezbollah bomb Nazareth - a Palestinian town - if they care about Palestinians?

I'm sorry but this "illustration" by the IDF of cruise missiles in civilian homes is patently ridiculous.

It's hardly something you buy in ikea and have as a table centrepiece. Lie better, guys, seriously.

I also want a ceasefire in Gaza, but Hizbollah wilfully started this conflict and are wilfully continuing it and putting their own people in danger because of their support for Hamas…

The illustration even shows them taking up multiple rooms and stories….like the cruise missile is in the living room and it goes through the ceiling into a bedroom above? They aren’t even trying to show anything plausible.

I’m still waiting for airstrike footage to have secondary explosions from all the cruise missiles, rockets and ammo storage dumps they say they are destroying.

The way to stop all this is to have a ceasefire in Gaza.
So frustrating that for 11.5 months now more and more experts and millions of people have been calling for a ceasefire, and yet there is complete ignoring by the politicians with the power.

How many dead will it take for them to see this can only stop with a ceasefire?

I would love for there to be a ceasefire and for the hostages to be released, however, that takes Sinwar and Bibi to want a deal and I think that neither do. I can’t understand why Hizbollah are dragging the Lebanese into this (well I do understand, just not justifiable).

They are firing rockets explicitly in support of Hamas. How does this help a bring about a ceasefire?

No idea.

One terrorist group launched an attack and still holds hostages. Another terrorist group fires missiles constantly into Israel in support of other terrorist group but also apparently to help get a ceasefire. Yet they gain support and sympathy 🙄crazy

Indeed, neither appears to want to stop. Madmen.

Who here is sympathising and supporting Hamas and Hezbollah?

Israel break International law, they illegally occupy, they enact apartheid and there are most definitely posters here showing them sympathy and support. Are you rolling your eyes at that because support? Do you agree that it is crazy to support an illegally occupying country that has an apartheid system in place?

It would be pretty crazy to support and amoral to support any of them.

So maybe hezbollah need to stop firing the rockets into Israel, what do they expect 🤔 that Israel just ignore that.

Lebanon isn't occupied, yet hezbollah still constantly launch missiles at Israel. Apparently that's how they show support for Hamas. Lebanon don't have control of their own country, hezbollah seem to decide to put the Lebanese people in danger.

A bit like the Houthis ruining their uwn country whilst supporting terrorists in another country.

Terrorists R Us uniting together and putting their poor people at risk. Nothing good will come from this.