Boycotting Israeli products/services

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I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

Israel is "the only country in the world that keeps children as prisoners of war,"
Accusing Israel of "abduction, rape, humiliation, torture, murder of Palestinians years and years and years before Oct 7 2023."

Doesn’t Israel keep children in prisons without a court ? Haven’t Palestinians been raped and tortured before 7-10 by Israel ?

She has stated that Israel is not a country but a land settled by colonizers that practice "ethnic cleansing, military occupation and apartheid over the Palestinian people."

an international court has also ruled today that Israel is illegally occupying Palestine and found activities that amounted to apartheid

also , none of these is anti Jewish but anti Israel government and IDF.

You literally said:

Wouldn't have anything to do with Israel's actions and what happened to her family no?

Given that her father and his family were ethnically cleansed from Palestine in 1948 is it not understandable that she holds these views?

So I ask you again, do you think it is understandable to blame all Palestinians for Hamas' attack?

If not, why is it understable to blame all Jews for the actions of the Israeli Government??

Who's blaming all Jews for anything? Can you not differentiate between Jewish people and the Israeli government? We can.

I suggested you put yourself into someone else's shoes for a moment and try to see things from the point of view of what their family went through but that may be beyond you.

“Who's blaming all Jews for anything?Can you not differentiate between Jewish people and the Israeli government? “
.I think the Adidas advertisement is absolutely shocking and it is hard to believe Adidas or Bella Hadid was unaware of the offence it would cause to Jewish people ( not just the Israeli government)
It is not ok to allude to a horrific terrorist attack by Palestinians against Jews in an advertisement to sell trainers .
It is not ok to do this whether you are from a Palestinian family that was “ethnically cleansed from Palestine in 1948” or not .
Surely we all can agree on that?

have the shoes been pulled down? Or still up for sale?
https://www.adidas.co.uk/sl72-og-shoes/IE3426.html

Also why the 3 twitters we’ve posted in this thread were focusing on Bella rather than on the shoes ? why are the news that Bella has been dumped rather than the shoes have been pulled out because of the offence it’d cause to the Jewish / Israel community

It is not ok to allude to a horrific terrorist attack by Palestinians against Jews in an advertisement to sell trainers .

who was alluding to this? I don’t think adidas or Bella were ?

I guess the Twitter commentary has focused on Bella for the same reason that she was chosen for the advertisement- she is famous and her name attracts more attention.
I think the advertisement alludes to the 1972 Munich Olympics ? The Olympics best remembered for a horrific attack on Israeli athletes?

This is what adidas say
The SL is an abbreviation and stands for "super light". And that is exactly what the sneaker is. Due to the Nylon Upper the sneaker has hardly any weight and also provides fresh air. The adidas Originals SL 72 was mainly known as a podium shoe. Many Adidas athletes came to the podium ceremony with the SL 72 on their feet instead of their usual sports shoes. But the big hype of the sneaker only came in the 80s. With the huge Adidas Superstar Hype, triggered by Run DMC, the general interest in Adidas sneakers also increased. The fans were especially looking for old running sneakers and came across the adidas Originals SL 72.

so they’re not alluding a terrorist attack as you mentioned on your previous comment.

also the twitter accounts focus on her for being anti Israel government and antisemitic. There is no prof of the latter one and it’s not illegal to be anti government of any country

I don’t know what Bella Hadid’s intentions were.I am just horrified at the idea that someone thought it was ok to reference the 1972 Olympics at a time when Jewish people are experiencing higher levels of anti semitism than any time since WW 2.

Which is totally acceptable but then the boycotts shouldn’t stop on Bella’s ad but the item itself. Which is not really happening. Those that were complaining were complaining because of Bella and not because of the shoes (I believe they’ve been up for sale since may and they still are)

Well that's one way of looking at it. Another way is that they're relaunching trainers that were launched originally for the 1972 Olympics. I don't think it's fair to say they're alluding to the attack in 1972.

Don't be daft.

I think you'd be horrified if someone started selling Ariane Grande Manchester Arena t-shirts as a fashion item.

I don't think they're comparable to be fair.

would you call for the item to be pull down or the artist? In this case the boycotters are happy with the product not with the artist. Shouldn’t they care about the product as well?

Entertainment events where there was a terrorist attack where multiple innocent people died?

How are they not comparable?

I've already answered this.

I'd like you to explain it, thanks.

If you can.

Me too. Not understanding this at all.

The Olympics is a sporting event that goes on for weeks, with hundreds of events and thousands of medalists. The Olympics in question happened over 50 years ago. Most people's first thought about the 1972 Olympics, if they even have a thought about it, won't be the attack on the Israeli athletes. I'd imagine a lot of people aren't even aware of it.

The Ariana Grande concert was a one night event where a massacre occured in Britain seven years ago.

She has stated that Israel is not a country but a land settled by colonizers that practice "ethnic cleansing, military occupation and apartheid over the Palestinian people."

To be fair, whatever you feel about the morality of the creation of the state of Israel, you cannot argue that this isn’t factually correct.

Israel is "the only country in the world that keeps children as prisoners of war,"
Accusing Israel of "abduction, rape, humiliation, torture, murder of Palestinians years and years and years before Oct 7 2023."

This is well documented and unfortunately true.

Sharing a photo of the terrorist Ahmed Manasra, who in 2015 went out with his cousin to stab Jews.

I wasn’t familiar with this name so I just looked it up and found the following:

“Ahmad Manasra was arrested in 2015 in relation to the stabbing and injury of two Israelis, aged 20 and 13, in occupied East Jerusalem. Although Israeli courts found that Ahmad did not participate in the stabbings, he is serving a nine-and-a-half-year sentence for attempted murder. “

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/israel-opt-after-nearly-2-years-in-solitary-confinement-ahmad-manasra-too-ill-to-attend-his-hearing/

So he didn’t actually participate in the stabbing at all, but he has been imprisoned and in isolation for years nonetheless.

Also, as this happened in occupied East Jerusalem, what makes you feel that it is anti semitism rather than anti colonialism? Either way I don’t condone the violence that was committed, but what makes you sure it’s anti semitism?

I’m not @ConnieCounter so i might be wrong

adidas : they’re remembering some shoes from some events (Olympic games) where these shoes became popular. Seems like in 1980s were really popular. It happened that on that years okympics there were some terrorist attacks. If the shoes were popoulad in 1982 olympics then they’d have brought them as well.

manchester arena T-shirt. This is a T-shirt were a terrorist attack happened. No other reason for a tshrit to be done.

That’s where I see the difference between the two scenarios

How long ago does a terrorist attack on an entertainment event have to be before it becomes an acceptable fashion accessory then?

Because I don't think that 1972 is long enough ago. People are still alive who were involved.

Such reaching here. Incredible.

And yet you would boycott for far less if it were on the other side.