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Boycotting Israeli products/services

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the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 15:54

I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

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Mellowdramadrama · 18/07/2024 18:29

How is Bella Hadid anti-semitic?

BelleHathor · 18/07/2024 18:43

Finallyloggedin · 18/07/2024 18:22

What has Bella Hadid said to lead you to believe that she is anti semetic? Being anti Israeli (as in the government and the apartheid state) doesn’t make someone anti semetic.

She just happens to be of Palestinian heritage, for some people that is reason enough.......

SharonEllis · 19/07/2024 07:03

BelleHathor · 18/07/2024 18:43

She just happens to be of Palestinian heritage, for some people that is reason enough.......

That may be true for some people but isn't really the issue. Google is your friend. I think her father is worse and she doesn't appear to distanced herself from anything he has said. Its hard to believe that any of you can't see that it was insensitive & inflammatory to choose someone with a long history of controversy around this issue, whose father is an open, vocal antisemite, to sell a shoe linked to the Munich Olympics, where Palestinian terrorists murdered Israelis. Why would a company go there? Its not as if they dont have form after issues with Kanye West.

EasterIssland · 19/07/2024 07:19

So just because she was Palestinian she has caused some upset for being used in an ad that had nothing to do with her “1972 Olympic Games where some Palestinian terrorists killed Israelis”. Is this boycott assuming that all Palestinian are terrorists ?
For those saying her dad is worse … she’s not her dad.

hope all those that are anti Israeli boycotts are as well anti Palestinian boycotts.

what I’m seeing is that any company that use Palestinian people or Palestinian badges go through a quick boycott created in social media and they’ve to quickly change their procedures or change their ads. On the other hand , those companies that support Israeli government or IDF are going through boycotts around the world. Some people feel this is not fair and that boycotts don’t work. Yet some of these companies are loosing loads of money.

Finallyloggedin · 19/07/2024 07:29

I’ve had a quick look online and I can’t find anything specifically that Bella Hadid has said which is anti semitic. Please could someone tell me?

The only things articles have mentioned are:

  • she is of Palestinian heretige (newspapers mentioning this as if it is a reason are displaying their own prejudices)
  • she is critical of apartheid israel (this does not make her anti Semitic, anymore than criticism of South Africa’s white apartheid government made someone anti white.)
  • she is critical of “Jewish supremacy within Israel” (in quotation marks as this was how the article was worded rather than my wording). But again, being critical of one group claiming supremacy over another, does not make you inherently racist against that group, it just means you believe in universal human rights.

please could someone explain, specifically about Bella Hadid, not Adidas.

Sussurations · 19/07/2024 07:33

It was, at a minimum, crass of Adidas, but it’s achieved the effect of getting a lot of publicity for the shoe, and also drawn attention to the 1972 Olympics terrorist attack. So overall it’s probably a win for Adidas and for history knowledge.

It’s true that Bella Hadid isn’t her father, but Adidas knew what they were doing I’m sure. I am mildly interested in the Hadid sisters, having been a keen RHOBH watcher when their mother was on it.

Finallyloggedin · 19/07/2024 07:58

Thank you @Scirocco , so in actual fact the opposite is true, she has defended Jewish people.

Dulra · 19/07/2024 07:58

EasterIssland · 19/07/2024 07:19

So just because she was Palestinian she has caused some upset for being used in an ad that had nothing to do with her “1972 Olympic Games where some Palestinian terrorists killed Israelis”. Is this boycott assuming that all Palestinian are terrorists ?
For those saying her dad is worse … she’s not her dad.

hope all those that are anti Israeli boycotts are as well anti Palestinian boycotts.

what I’m seeing is that any company that use Palestinian people or Palestinian badges go through a quick boycott created in social media and they’ve to quickly change their procedures or change their ads. On the other hand , those companies that support Israeli government or IDF are going through boycotts around the world. Some people feel this is not fair and that boycotts don’t work. Yet some of these companies are loosing loads of money.

Yes the hypocrisy is staggering.

@SharonEllis Google is your friend. No one has been able to find anything of significance on google so you may need to explain this one

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 19/07/2024 08:14

Scirocco · 19/07/2024 07:43

@Finallyloggedin I don't know much about her, but I asked Google what she'd said about antisemitism, and this was one of the top links...

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/bella-hadid-kanye-west-instagram-b2201278.html

So it's just another case of being discriminated against for having Palestinian heritage. ☹️

BelleHathor · 19/07/2024 08:17

Scirocco · 19/07/2024 07:43

@Finallyloggedin I don't know much about her, but I asked Google what she'd said about antisemitism, and this was one of the top links...

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/bella-hadid-kanye-west-instagram-b2201278.html

Thanks Scirocco a beautiful statement by Bella Hadid, extremely graceful, a grace that certain people can't or won't afford her right now.
This part was pertinent:
"No one can choose where they come from, what is in their blood, or who they are,” she added. “And no one should be judged for the things they cannot control.

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 09:07

It’s interesting after the furore about M&S Christmas crackers to see people so totally chill about a clothing line celebrating (not commemorating) an Olympics famous for being the occasion of a horrendous hostage taking and subsequent massacre of athletes by terrorists. The details are just awful. People involved are still alive.

It’s an utterly bizarre decision.

SharonEllis · 19/07/2024 09:31

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 09:07

It’s interesting after the furore about M&S Christmas crackers to see people so totally chill about a clothing line celebrating (not commemorating) an Olympics famous for being the occasion of a horrendous hostage taking and subsequent massacre of athletes by terrorists. The details are just awful. People involved are still alive.

It’s an utterly bizarre decision.

Nothing to see here.....apparently.

Utterly weird. Its not because she's Palestinian. Its because of linking someone who has at times had what we might call an 'equivocal' position on the conflict to an occasion which was unequivocally about killing Iaraeli Jews. Again, the question, why would a company do that? At best, exploiting a terrible situation where there is real hurt on all side for clicks & sales? And we're all good with that?

ConnieCounter · 19/07/2024 10:02

Sounds to me like the issue is that she's Palestinian.

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 10:10

“Adidas are running a clothing range celebrating the Olympics where 11 Israeli athletes were taken hostage and then murdered by Palestinian terrorists, over the Israel-Palestine conflict”

”Well that’s fucking weird….maybe they forgot??”

”They have hired a Palestinian who is vocally pro Palestine to advertise the shoes”

”Right, well, message received, I guess”.

EasterIssland · 19/07/2024 10:20

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 09:07

It’s interesting after the furore about M&S Christmas crackers to see people so totally chill about a clothing line celebrating (not commemorating) an Olympics famous for being the occasion of a horrendous hostage taking and subsequent massacre of athletes by terrorists. The details are just awful. People involved are still alive.

It’s an utterly bizarre decision.

Then the focus should be boycotting the product and why it’s that years olympics being commemorated. However , the focus has been put on the artist that was in the ad. Are they removing the product or the ad with this person only ?

Finallyloggedin · 19/07/2024 10:22

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 10:10

“Adidas are running a clothing range celebrating the Olympics where 11 Israeli athletes were taken hostage and then murdered by Palestinian terrorists, over the Israel-Palestine conflict”

”Well that’s fucking weird….maybe they forgot??”

”They have hired a Palestinian who is vocally pro Palestine to advertise the shoes”

”Right, well, message received, I guess”.

Are you implying that someone who is ‘vocally pro Palestine’ is therefore pro terror?

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 10:22

Finallyloggedin · 19/07/2024 10:22

Are you implying that someone who is ‘vocally pro Palestine’ is therefore pro terror?

No.

Finallyloggedin · 19/07/2024 10:22

So can you explain why you have made the link then?

EasterIssland · 19/07/2024 10:25

And again, you can boycott adidas if you feel this was a bad move of them and aren’t happy spending your money on someone that remembers 1972 Olympic Games. But , it’s the same for others. They might not want to spend their money on Israel companies because they feel that what they’re doing against Palestinians isn’t right.

Dulra · 19/07/2024 10:26

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 09:07

It’s interesting after the furore about M&S Christmas crackers to see people so totally chill about a clothing line celebrating (not commemorating) an Olympics famous for being the occasion of a horrendous hostage taking and subsequent massacre of athletes by terrorists. The details are just awful. People involved are still alive.

It’s an utterly bizarre decision.

I have not seen the ad so know nothing of it's content. From the posts here I thought the issue was that Bella Hadid was in the ad?

BelleHathor · 19/07/2024 10:32

As of now Adidas have only removed their Twitter and Instagram posts and Bella has not been removed from the campaign. https://www.adidas.com/us/sl_72

It appears that there has been a concerted effort to remove her simply for being Palestinian, these are tweets by the official Israel account and also another large account that targets/doxes anyone they perceive to be anti Israel. Amplified by the ever pleasant and definitely not racist Oli London.

There is no evidence that Adidas planned this on purpose, it is likely that a young marketing team were not aware of the tragic events of the 1972 Olympics and just put together a campaign (which would have been planned well before October 7th) casting one of the top models today.

Anyhow it appears to be a pyrrhic victory that has manufactured outrage, but more importantly got trending the story of what happened to Mohammed Hadid, whose family took in Jewish immigrants fleeing Europe in the 1940s, fed and clothed them , only to be evicted from their home by the people that they helped.

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noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 10:36

Finallyloggedin · 19/07/2024 10:22

So can you explain why you have made the link then?

Because if you thought that maybe Adidas had forgotten that the Olympics in 1972 were the site of a massacre of Israelis by Palestinian terrorists, them hiring a Palestinian who is vocal about the Israel-Palestine conflict to model them might make you think that perhaps they did intentionally make the clothing line based on that particular Olympics after all.

Of course it could all be a coincidence. But sacking the model rather than explaining their choices isn’t reassuring.

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2024 10:38

is likely that a young marketing team were not aware of the tragic events of the 1972 Olympics

The marketing team didn’t Google 1972 Olympics to get ideas? That seems implausible.

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