Israel rescues four hostages alive from Gaza who were captured by Hamas at Nova music festival on October 7 - including girl seen kidnapped on back of motorbike

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Well done Israel - fantastic, wonderful news
xxx

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13508615/Israel-rescues-four-hostages-alive-Gaza-Noa-Argamani-motorbike.html

I will. I don't believe in conspiracies. I believe that any government should be accountable to their citizens. They should be transparent. I believe the Israeli government made mistakes and the Israeli people should be told about them.

Yes, it's a little like Covid and the lockdowns or the Grenfell Tower fire. Likely there were some mistakes made and these need to be investigated and measures put in place to ensure they don't happen again.

There is nothing controversial about that.

It's just that the way you posted suggested intrigue and innuendo and that muddied the waters somewhat.

It seems this is not the only matter over which people have become confused about exactly what it is you are saying. Clarity is the name of the game!

It is exceptionally odd to rock up to a thread about hostages being rescued with articles like 'Israel knew in advance about October 7th'.

What is your intention on this thread?

@HelenHen can you confirm how many hostages the Red Cross have visited? For welfare checks? The Bibas'?

I can say what I like and it's a widely held opinion hence the posts. I didn't make them myself.

I love how "hasbara" has become the buzzword on MN CITME threads. I bet most of the people using it couldn't even point to Israel on a map a year ago, and maybe still can't. Yet we all know about the Evil Jew.

What's the Hamas equivalent of hasbara? because it seems to operate actively on MN. I can never tell whether this is just naivety or a deliberate strategy. Some posters certainly seem to make a full-time job of controlling the narrative on here.

I just quoted from the article!

The document was far too vague to act upon.

@Auvergne63 people in glass houses.... have to attempt to derail.

Hamasbara?

That's horrible. I hope it gets taken down soon.

His name isn't exactly unusual though - is it confirmed to have been the same person?

"Imran Khan, a senior correspondent on Al Jazeera's English channel published an Instagram post distancing the network from Al-Jamal, saying he was a freelancer in the past. Khan wrote, "The individual in question who was killed in the raid along with his family was, at one point, a freelance journalist. He has never worked for Al Jazeera Arabic or English."

I don't have instagram so can't check this.

By the way, Abdallah Aljamal is credited on the Al Jazeerah website as a photojournalist and is thus staff - so as far as I am concerned, this has confirmed to me that this news channel is not to be trusted and is accordingly now discredited as a reliable reporting source, so often quoted on CITME threads as a paragon of bias free, reputable reporting on the conflict

Now wonder the agency was banned in Israel!

The Daily Mail is a fount of news reporting brilliance compared to AJ.

https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdallah_aljamal_190122103235277

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1799707254054396317

Imagine working as a journalist and writing articles about a war that you yourself are partially responsible for 😳

Vile. If people are on Twitter, please report it.

That's what I was asking further above with a ? And attachments.

That link only has one article from 2019 as his Al Jazeera output though. Unless anyone can come up with more articles he has written for them it does seem like it was a freelance thing?

He definitely wrote for the Palestinian Chronicle.

But he is listed on the AJ website. And it is still there.

Yes, because of the article he wrote for them in 2019. This is normal.

Unless you can find more articles he wrote for them which aren't listed there?

Yes, doesn't seem to be true that he worked for Al Jazeera. The reality of the situation is bad enough without it anyway.

But as always, people are now going to drill down on the Al Jazeera part of it not being 100% true rather than the rest of it which is pretty fucking awful.

Whether he did or did not, the fact that he is still listed on the website is important. That is my point really.

Looks like this operation really will mark a change in attitude in the West to the conflict.

Just maybe not the one the useful idiots and terrorist sympathiser were hoping for.

It has been genuinely harrowing, even as a non Jewish person, to see the lies, antisemitism and unprovable bullshit fed by Hamas swallowed by so many gullible-at-best people on social media (though not in real life, I don't know anyone that isn't supportive of Israel).

English is my second language so forgive me if I don't make myself as clear as I should be.

Odd? It relates to the hostages. I don't have an agenda, I don't believe in having agendas. Do you?

English is my second language so forgive me if I don't make myself as clear as I should be.

I actually would not have guessed that!

However, moving forward, if people suggest that your posts might have darker, hidden meanings, or double meanings or possibly suggest something sinister or conspiracy-like then do clarify when posters are puzzled rather than letting the confusion drag on.

Ok, then you should be able to explain why you are posting links about Israel knowing about October 7th on a thread about hostages being rescued, and posting comments about 'if only Israel had let in international journalists' to a discussion about a Hamas terrorist working as a journalist?