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Conflict in the Middle East

What steps can we take to help the Palestinians?

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Finallyloggedin · 08/05/2024 22:50

I appreciate that there is little we can do on a personal level and we really need our government to step up but with the situation so dire, I thought it might be useful to have a thread to share ideas on steps we can take to offer support in as many ways as possible.

My ideas so far are:

  • attend local demonstrations
  • if possible, donate to UNWRA or other aid agencies working in Gaza.
  • Write to David Cameron and your local MP via the PSC template https://palestinecampaign.eaction.online/rafah then circulate as widely as possible
  • close any Barclays Bank accounts.
  • Take part in the global financial strike on Friday. I read about this online and I need to find the details again. I think the idea is to spend no money at all on Friday, in order to send a shockwave through the global markets. I appreciate that realistically not enough people will probably take part in this for it to have an impact, but I’m just thinking I will try to do it as it’s an action I can take. I will add a link to the information when I can find it.
  • Boycott - BDS https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
  • boycott Eurovision

If anyone can add actions we can take, please do. I am feeling so horrified and powerless, I just thought it would be good to know of every single way to help,

Emergency in Rafah - Urgent Action Now

https://palestinecampaign.eaction.online/rafah

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TakeMe2Insanity · 10/05/2024 13:01

Marjoriefrobisher · 09/05/2024 23:22

If you actually read the page I linked to, you’ll see the Palestine crisis is one on a distressingly long list of humanitarian crises the WFP needs funds to help deal with.
if you are genuinely motivated by compassion for suffering, I’m sure you will have no problem with me highlighting over situations of desperate need.

But thats just it, THIS thread is NOT about global suffering it IS about Palestinian suffering and helping Palestinians.

Your persistence for highlighting global issues on this thread suggests you are trying to minimise Palestinian suffering.

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 13:28

TakeMe2Insanity · 10/05/2024 13:01

But thats just it, THIS thread is NOT about global suffering it IS about Palestinian suffering and helping Palestinians.

Your persistence for highlighting global issues on this thread suggests you are trying to minimise Palestinian suffering.

It’s ’funny’ how pro-israelis are so worried about all the wrongs in the world, except for Palestinians.
That’s the only thing we should be looking away from.
Funny, huh? 🤔

trampoline123 · 10/05/2024 13:34

I really don't want to get in to the politics of it, because anyone who supports this genocide needs their heads examining.

Late to the party but back to the original post.

I share all I can on social media platforms to raise awareness more than anything. Some people really think it's about self defence, it never has been. Awareness is crucial.

Itsabeautufulday · 10/05/2024 15:49

kirinm · 09/05/2024 10:57

Israel don't give a fuck about the hostages and have made clear over and over again that they'll continue the war whether the hostages are released or not.

If they were released by hamas, other terrorist organisations, citizens or whomever holds them if would actually increase pressure on Israel to stop.

Can you not see that? Take away that part straight away. Surely that would encourage more people to call for an end to conflict?

Itsabeautufulday · 10/05/2024 15:52

The Palestinian representative at the United nations speaks so passionately. Shame he couldn't form a new governance for Palestinian for peace.

TheABC · 10/05/2024 18:02

I don't think we can do much to influence peace talks. The US withholding bombs must help, but Israel is on a revenge kick, and Netanhayu is captured by his far-right party. After the state's intelligence failures on Oct 7th, he can't afford to look soft on Hamas, plus there's the small problem of his corruption trial.

Unfortunately, those viral videos released by Hamas showing Palestinians celebrating the October 7th massacre have given ammunition to the idea that
most Gazans supported Hamas = are the same as Hamas. (I don't, and they don't deserve this suffering).

Right now, I am keeping my fingers crossed that the ground invasion of Rafeh does not go ahead and that a ceasefire will happen soon. In the meantime, I'm donating to WFP and focusing on education charities as the school infrastructure has been bombed to hell.

The irony is that all this squabbling over land might be obsolete in the next few decades. If the world reaches 3 degrees of warming, the Middle East will be uninhabitable.

KickEmJenni · 10/05/2024 20:56

When the dust has settled and Israel have withdrawn from Gaza there will be a need for rebuilding the region. This will be literal construction but also the establishment or re-establishment of basic resources. Those who have protested week in and week out, taken part in sit ins, sit outside and boycott could actually go to the Palestinian territories and help. Gap yah perhaps?

Then again not many went there in the past....

Lemonlettuce · 10/05/2024 21:25

KickEmJenni · 10/05/2024 20:56

When the dust has settled and Israel have withdrawn from Gaza there will be a need for rebuilding the region. This will be literal construction but also the establishment or re-establishment of basic resources. Those who have protested week in and week out, taken part in sit ins, sit outside and boycott could actually go to the Palestinian territories and help. Gap yah perhaps?

Then again not many went there in the past....

Yeah most definitely! You are absolutely right it will be rebuilt- BY ISRAEL! Gaza will become a colony and by extension ‘Israel’ just like they did with the rest of Palestine.

That’s why some Jewish groups in the West are already auctioning off the land.

Your last point about not many people going to help Gaza leaves a sour taste- when individuals like Rachel Corrie who did try to help were murdered by the Israelis.

TakeMe2Insanity · 10/05/2024 21:28

KickEmJenni · 10/05/2024 20:56

When the dust has settled and Israel have withdrawn from Gaza there will be a need for rebuilding the region. This will be literal construction but also the establishment or re-establishment of basic resources. Those who have protested week in and week out, taken part in sit ins, sit outside and boycott could actually go to the Palestinian territories and help. Gap yah perhaps?

Then again not many went there in the past....

For goodness sake people have already laid stakes in the rebranded Gaza! The one without Palestinians. Where to next? Lebanon or would Egypt and Jordan be easier?

Honestly move on to another thread.

Scirocco · 10/05/2024 22:12

KickEmJenni · 10/05/2024 20:56

When the dust has settled and Israel have withdrawn from Gaza there will be a need for rebuilding the region. This will be literal construction but also the establishment or re-establishment of basic resources. Those who have protested week in and week out, taken part in sit ins, sit outside and boycott could actually go to the Palestinian territories and help. Gap yah perhaps?

Then again not many went there in the past....

We went. Some of us didn't come home.

Marjoriefrobisher · 10/05/2024 23:38

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 13:28

It’s ’funny’ how pro-israelis are so worried about all the wrongs in the world, except for Palestinians.
That’s the only thing we should be looking away from.
Funny, huh? 🤔

If I had wanted to divert attention from Palestinian suffering then posting a link to an IGO which mentions it would be an odd thing for me to do, wouldn’t it?
The determination of you and others to focus exclusively on that and not other areas where people are suffering in conflict leads to the conclusion that your motives are political rather than humanitarian. Have the decency to be honest about that.

Marjoriefrobisher · 10/05/2024 23:50

Lemonlettuce · 10/05/2024 21:25

Yeah most definitely! You are absolutely right it will be rebuilt- BY ISRAEL! Gaza will become a colony and by extension ‘Israel’ just like they did with the rest of Palestine.

That’s why some Jewish groups in the West are already auctioning off the land.

Your last point about not many people going to help Gaza leaves a sour taste- when individuals like Rachel Corrie who did try to help were murdered by the Israelis.

Which « Jewish groups » are these?
im sure you have evidence for this claim; please share it.

Marjoriefrobisher · 10/05/2024 23:52

TakeMe2Insanity · 10/05/2024 21:28

For goodness sake people have already laid stakes in the rebranded Gaza! The one without Palestinians. Where to next? Lebanon or would Egypt and Jordan be easier?

Honestly move on to another thread.

Which people are these and how have they « laid stakes »? I must say I’m struggling to understand how such a thing could happen in any enforceable manner in the current conditions, but I’m sure you wouldn’t make such a claim without good grounds, so let us see them.

BringThemHome · 10/05/2024 23:57

@MrsJimmyPerez

"Organise demonstrations calling for Hamas to release all the hostages."

💯 Bring them home NOW

eomeoni · 11/05/2024 00:04

Scirocco · 10/05/2024 22:12

We went. Some of us didn't come home.

@Scirocco Helping the people of Gaza in these condition's is absolutely heroic. I am really sorry that not all of you came back it’s heartbreaking.

Scirocco · 11/05/2024 05:08

eomeoni · 11/05/2024 00:04

@Scirocco Helping the people of Gaza in these condition's is absolutely heroic. I am really sorry that not all of you came back it’s heartbreaking.

I've not been out during this conflict (previously, though), but friends and colleagues have been, this time. Some will never come home.

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 06:15

Marjoriefrobisher · 10/05/2024 23:52

Which people are these and how have they « laid stakes »? I must say I’m struggling to understand how such a thing could happen in any enforceable manner in the current conditions, but I’m sure you wouldn’t make such a claim without good grounds, so let us see them.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-right-wing-activists-are-preparing-to-resettle-gaza-after-the-war/

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240323-we-have-lists-of-500-families-that-are-willing-at-the-drop-of-a-hat-to-move-to-gaza/

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 06:21

This is just a bunch of activists doing what they do; hardly evidence for what you implied.
People of your persuasion seem very clear that Hamas are absolutely to be differentiated from the Palestinian people (despite their previous electoral support for them); yet extrémists on the other side somehow become representative of Israeli policy. Why would that be, I wonder.

Scirocco · 11/05/2024 06:27

Do you have suggestions on how people can help Palestinians in this time of desperate need?

Noicant · 11/05/2024 06:29

EmilyBronte82 · 09/05/2024 17:39

Many of my Muslim friends (they are of different heritage backgrounds but English by birth) are doing lots of different things:

A doctor friend is lecturing med students over there online
Organising local demonstrations
Going to London to demonstrate
Sharing on social media

etc

Im finding my English friends of English heritage are not doing anything. Sorry but it’s true.

I like the idea of lecturing medical students on-line, that has to be extremely helpful for young doctors doing their best to keep learning whilst also doing their best for their people. I like that, it’s a fantastic idea.

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 06:33

Scirocco · 11/05/2024 06:27

Do you have suggestions on how people can help Palestinians in this time of desperate need?

Yes, and I have made one. Do you have suggestions for why the righteous on this particular issue never seem to challenge the concerning assertions and behaviour on their own side?

Scirocco · 11/05/2024 06:39

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 06:33

Yes, and I have made one. Do you have suggestions for why the righteous on this particular issue never seem to challenge the concerning assertions and behaviour on their own side?

Thanks for sharing one then. Every little bit of support helps.

Rather than de-railing a thread, if you start your own thread to ask your question, I'm sure people will be happy to discuss it there.

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 06:42

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 06:21

This is just a bunch of activists doing what they do; hardly evidence for what you implied.
People of your persuasion seem very clear that Hamas are absolutely to be differentiated from the Palestinian people (despite their previous electoral support for them); yet extrémists on the other side somehow become representative of Israeli policy. Why would that be, I wonder.

500 families ready to move isn’t insignificant.

So on that logic, collective punishment is correct. Let’s go grab all the little newborns in NICU unplug their machines and say they need to die as they are responsible for Hamas. Glad we got that sorted.

Tomorrow UFOs land in the UK and say collective punishment as the Tories did X,Y,Z. People say our babies are dying, they say ah but they voted for the Tories. Of course they didn’t. Same logic.

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 06:48

In terms of helping, here are some Palestinian petitions for potential debate that could be shared.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open&q=Palestinian+

View all petitions - Petitions

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open&q=Palestinian+

Charlie2121 · 11/05/2024 06:58

I think the best help they can be given in the long run is to tell them not to vote for a terrorist organisation as a government ever again. Unsurprisingly it rarely ends well.