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Conflict in the Middle East

What steps can we take to help the Palestinians?

112 replies

Finallyloggedin · 08/05/2024 22:50

I appreciate that there is little we can do on a personal level and we really need our government to step up but with the situation so dire, I thought it might be useful to have a thread to share ideas on steps we can take to offer support in as many ways as possible.

My ideas so far are:

  • attend local demonstrations
  • if possible, donate to UNWRA or other aid agencies working in Gaza.
  • Write to David Cameron and your local MP via the PSC template https://palestinecampaign.eaction.online/rafah then circulate as widely as possible
  • close any Barclays Bank accounts.
  • Take part in the global financial strike on Friday. I read about this online and I need to find the details again. I think the idea is to spend no money at all on Friday, in order to send a shockwave through the global markets. I appreciate that realistically not enough people will probably take part in this for it to have an impact, but I’m just thinking I will try to do it as it’s an action I can take. I will add a link to the information when I can find it.
  • Boycott - BDS https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
  • boycott Eurovision

If anyone can add actions we can take, please do. I am feeling so horrified and powerless, I just thought it would be good to know of every single way to help,

Emergency in Rafah - Urgent Action Now

https://palestinecampaign.eaction.online/rafah

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Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 07:12

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 06:42

500 families ready to move isn’t insignificant.

So on that logic, collective punishment is correct. Let’s go grab all the little newborns in NICU unplug their machines and say they need to die as they are responsible for Hamas. Glad we got that sorted.

Tomorrow UFOs land in the UK and say collective punishment as the Tories did X,Y,Z. People say our babies are dying, they say ah but they voted for the Tories. Of course they didn’t. Same logic.

Make it make sense at least, for gods sake

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 07:52

@Charlie2121 is that the Israelis voting in Netanyahu, do you mean? Wasn’t there some controversy around that? Won’t he be going straight to prison once he loses power?

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Charlie2121 · 11/05/2024 08:06

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 07:52

@Charlie2121 is that the Israelis voting in Netanyahu, do you mean? Wasn’t there some controversy around that? Won’t he be going straight to prison once he loses power?

I’ll never cease to be shocked at people’s open support of a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Do you support all terrorists or are you selective? Are Boko Haram on your Christmas card list too? What about Al Shabaab?

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 08:32

Charlie2121 · 11/05/2024 08:06

I’ll never cease to be shocked at people’s open support of a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Do you support all terrorists or are you selective? Are Boko Haram on your Christmas card list too? What about Al Shabaab?

No, I don’t support Hamas or Likud, how about you? Are you a far of the current far right government in Israel?

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Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 09:11

None of this is evidence for the allegation that « Jewish groups » are auctioning off Gaza, I’m afraid. I have reported your original post.

Lemonlettuce · 11/05/2024 09:24

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 09:11

None of this is evidence for the allegation that « Jewish groups » are auctioning off Gaza, I’m afraid. I have reported your original post.

Wow! I’m afraid to say you are a very unfair person. How is that not evidence? Who were the articles talking about then? White Afrikaaners? Samurai warriors? Marco Polo? It’s staring you right in the face and still you’re in denial. And then you report my post?

Lemonlettuce · 11/05/2024 09:26

And also @Marjoriefrobisher a pp also put up some similar links and you tried to say it’s ‘only’ 500 families trying to take over Gaza. So which is it? Either it’s not enough Jewish families or they’re not Jewish at all? Make up your mind.

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 09:28

Lemonlettuce · 11/05/2024 09:24

Wow! I’m afraid to say you are a very unfair person. How is that not evidence? Who were the articles talking about then? White Afrikaaners? Samurai warriors? Marco Polo? It’s staring you right in the face and still you’re in denial. And then you report my post?

One of your links was about the West Bank, another about Haifa. The other relates to the activities of some extrémists in Israel absolutely does not represent any coherent attempt to « auction off » land in Gaza.
and off the back of that you frothed about « Jewish groups ». So yes, I have reported you, though my confidence that you’ll be dealt with as you should be isn’t high

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 09:30

Lemonlettuce · 11/05/2024 09:26

And also @Marjoriefrobisher a pp also put up some similar links and you tried to say it’s ‘only’ 500 families trying to take over Gaza. So which is it? Either it’s not enough Jewish families or they’re not Jewish at all? Make up your mind.

I think you mean Israeli families, don’t you. Or perhaps you’re not capable of seeing the difference. And no, the actions of a bunch of extremists do not represent the approach of Israel any more than the acts of hamas represent all Palestinians.

Lemonlettuce · 11/05/2024 09:33

In your mind is Hamas a Muslim group? Yes they are a Muslim group even though their actions are not very Islamic but still they are a Muslim group. Now you’re playing semantics with me. It’s an Israeli Jewish group who believe that what they’re doing is in accordance with Jewish law so yes they are a Jewish group. I have nothing further to say to you. Goodbye.

Marjoriefrobisher · 11/05/2024 09:37

Lemonlettuce · 11/05/2024 09:33

In your mind is Hamas a Muslim group? Yes they are a Muslim group even though their actions are not very Islamic but still they are a Muslim group. Now you’re playing semantics with me. It’s an Israeli Jewish group who believe that what they’re doing is in accordance with Jewish law so yes they are a Jewish group. I have nothing further to say to you. Goodbye.

so the answer to my question is no, you cannot see the difference. No surprises there.

youngones1 · 11/05/2024 13:33

Write to our MPs

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 18:26

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1789232401622651330?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Benjamin Zephaniah

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TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 18:52

Momentarily ignoring our esteemed thread de-railer @Marjoriefrobisher .

A fantastic way of helping is sharing the original Naqba testimonies.

Mohammed Hadid:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy0fBBzMnKk/?igsh=MTU1aGtwczh3cTk2Mg==

Also this site is collecting information re villages and testimonies of people.

https://www.zochrot.org/welcome/index/en

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy0fBBzMnKk/?igsh=MTU1aGtwczh3cTk2Mg==

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 18:56

Thank you very much @TakeMe2Insanity

im actually wondering if it would be easier to start a new thread 😂 but I have a feeling that the same thing might happen again…

I went to a demonstration today and heard someone speaking about the power of BDS. It was really inspiring to hear about how it helped in SA.

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TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 19:04

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 18:56

Thank you very much @TakeMe2Insanity

im actually wondering if it would be easier to start a new thread 😂 but I have a feeling that the same thing might happen again…

I went to a demonstration today and heard someone speaking about the power of BDS. It was really inspiring to hear about how it helped in SA.

BDS?

Scottishgirlinwales · 11/05/2024 19:07

There’s nothing you can realistically do except for donate to charities that can help. Writing letters / boycotting is a waste of time and effort.

Educate your children,teach them to be kind and maybe there will be hope to break this cycle for future generations.

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TakeMe2Insanity · 11/05/2024 19:38

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 19:26

Ok I’m doing that without being affiliated to anyone! Thank you for sharing!

eomeoni · 11/05/2024 22:04

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 19:26

I am also taking part in the BDS boycott. It’s a lot easier than I thought it would be. The No thanks app helps when buying things.

Charlie2121 · 12/05/2024 06:58

Just educate your children not to vote for proscribed terrorist organisations to be their government and you’ll then find that all this faux outrage isn’t necessary anymore.

eomeoni · 12/05/2024 08:50

If your local area has a Palestinian Solidarity group please join them.

Lemonlettuce · 12/05/2024 09:08

Charlie2121 · 12/05/2024 06:58

Just educate your children not to vote for proscribed terrorist organisations to be their government and you’ll then find that all this faux outrage isn’t necessary anymore.

‘Faux outrage’

?

Seriously, how can you say that?

So when we see the unending clips of Palestinian parents sobbing over the bodies of their dead children and therefore have a desire to want to help them- this is faux outrage?

How easy for you to say don’t vote for Hamas- as if this has only been happening since Hamas were voted in. Israel have been ‘mowing the lawn’ (which by the way is official Israeli terminology for their approach towards Palestinians) for decades.

It’s been happening since 1947 and Hamas were not around then. What do you think? Before October 7- it was all sunshine and daisies? Yes, what happened on October 7 was terrible and a slaughter of innocents but why can’t you say the same about the suffering faced by the Palestinians before and since Oct 7? Instead you call it faux outrage? I don’t understand these posters- how easily you swallow what the mass media tells you.

Scirocco · 12/05/2024 09:39

Charlie2121 · 12/05/2024 06:58

Just educate your children not to vote for proscribed terrorist organisations to be their government and you’ll then find that all this faux outrage isn’t necessary anymore.

Do you have any suggestions for how to provide practical or emotional support for Palestinians, either in Palestine or elsewhere, or for people whose loved ones have been killed by Israeli forces during this conflict?