Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

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Where the hell are all the Palestinians meant to go now?
They were TOLD to go to Rafah, that Rafah was a safe place.
It’s just open extermination at this point.

I was listening to an Israeli ex prime minister (sorry I can't remember his name) on the radio who stated that going into Rafah would be dangerous as it would endanger the hostages. He never mentioned the civilians who would be killed. They simply don't matter.
I feel that there are many posters here who feel the same about Palestinians.

Yes why? Why is that?

Wow. Shouting at people really shows you are losing the argument. What's next? Personal insults?

I will try one more time but I know you wont answer it as the answer re "Egypt" and the other places does not tie in with your stance

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

You're making no sense. At all.

WHAT BLOODY SAFE ZONES????

We don’t believe in safe zones because they are a lie!! Every time the IDF call somewhere a “safe zone” they then promptly bomb it! You must have noticed? Do keep up.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/06/forcibly-displacing-rafah-civilians-would-be-war-france-warns-israel

Seems everyone except Netanyahu and his Israeli extremist pals and a few Mums on mumsnet think this is a reasonable action. Most agree it's a war crime.

There is history of civil wars when Palestinian refugees entered countries in the surrounding area. This is well documented and factual before any one gets offended. I’m pretty sure that’s why there has been the reluctance to take them in.

Can you name any hostage they we’ve got back as a result bombing the fuck out of somewhere and murdering children?

Even our current government aren’t that insane. Israel were never going to get their hostages back following this course of action. And pretty much every government in the world knows it, including the Israeli government.

Many thanks to MNHQ re my complaint re the title of the thread being misleading

@SummerFeverVenice Egypt also has its own history with Rafah.

Well, IDF has besieged Gaza. Gallant put the siege on Oct 9th.

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,”

Palestinians can’t leave Gaza. The HRW called this out as another rights violation - the right to flee a war zone.

History like this?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/16/sabra-and-shatila-massacre-40-years-on-explainer

How anyone, irrespective of nationality, creed, race, politics, or anything at all, can now still stand by Netanyahu and the IDF, and Israel- is just unbelievable.

They were told to go to the South to be safe, and now this. There are just NO words.

Acting ingorantly just shows you have no answer

But to remind you

Why is Egypt right next door to Gaza, or Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

That's right, no one wants them in their country as they fear it beingdestabilised - you've got the answer, now just admit but you wont as you have your agenda that I will never accpet

I'm confused.

Are you saying Hamas ARE NOT using Palestinians as human shields

Surely a typo?

Oh, not the siege then that Gallant established on 9th of October that hasn’t been lifted. Yours seems an odd viewpoint.

I think the answer to that can be seen if you look at all these Hamas marches, sit ins and rise of anti-semitism. Mission accomplished

Israel was told to put a contingency plan in place and safe evacuation.
They have.
They were told to provide humanitarian aid.
They did. (Hamas bombed the crossing)
Hamas steal the aid.
They refuse to make any concessions at discussions for release of the hostages.
They continue to hold hostages including children.
The main players of Oct 7th that remain in Gaza have not been caught and rockets have been fired from humanitarian areas. Therefore Hamas has a presence in Rafah.

The irony of your name and your posts is quite amusing.

Maybe instead of asking about Egypt, ask why Israel is bombing Gaza into the stone age?

Anyway you're making little sense and your views are hateful so I'm not going to talk to you any more.

I stand with Israel but not necessarily wholly supportive of the leader's and the IDF's actions.

Millions do stand and support Israel's right to exist.

I can't believe you don't believe that Israel has been blocking the aid.

Remarkable.

So rude, given what's happening to the population of Gaza at Israel's hand.