"The only purpose of these marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part three)

[stomachamelon]

Carrying on from part two....

Oh dear god.

For the billionth time, the marches being intimidating and the purpose of the marches being to intimidate are not the same thing.

So STOP claiming that I believe that the purpose of the marches is to intimidate. Because it is starting to look like trolling.

And this is exactly the cherry picking in order assign your own meaning that I’m talking about. It’s not a coherent discussion, it’s childish and I’m doubting whether you even need anyone here to carry on a conversation that doesn’t conform to the one you appear to be having, which is basically you talking to you.

I also think you’re trying to kill this thread by driving posters away with endless word salads and pointless circular arguments.

And this is exactly the cherry picking in order assign your own meaning that I’m talking about

It does take quite extraordinary arrogance to tell someone that they are wrong about their own opinion.

It's postmodernist to the extreme. Trying to assert your reality onto others.

However, it's MY opinion and no one else gets to overrule me on what that is.

It may not be the only purpose of the marches but intimidation does seem to be the purpose of those blockading coffee shops and Macdonalds, but that's indiscriminate intimidation, very fair, you don't have to be jewish.

Stopping in front of a cancer hospital screaming at the patients standing at the window sure sounds like it's meant to be intimidating.

Posted on Instagram.

It has been said before. I hope the latest hostage negotiations are successful.

It weakens rather than strengthens sympathy for the Gazan cause while they are still held.

They obviously know every pro-Palestinian to be able to make such sweeping generalisations about a diverse group of tens of thousands of people 🙄

I think they know better than most.

@quantumbutterfly update on other thread.

I think they know better than most.
Who is they? I was commenting on an Instagram post you shared, no idea who the person is

And here you are comparing people who decide to go on a march to Jewish people again.

I think the point is that, if it (quite rightly) is considered not ok to make sweeping generalisations or assumptions based on non-representative sample sizes about some groups of people, that should be the case for other groups too

Why the need to make this comparison to Jewish people at all? Why is it such an issue for some people when they’re asked not to tokenise and misrepresent all Jewish people according to the actions and opinions of some Jewish people? No, it’s not ok to make sweeping generalisations about Jews, any more than it’s ok to do it about protestors, so what does this complaint add to the discussion?

Eta missing word.

Generalising about people who decide to go to a protest is not on the same level as generalising about a race and religion who have faced extreme persecution for thousands of years. To compare them is downplaying anti-Semitism.

As someone who is part of a minority group which experiences sweeping generalisations, discrimination and hate on a regular basis, that experience only reinforces to me the importance of not doing that to other groups.

In relation to people participating in marches, demonstrations and other ways of expressing concerns about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, this is hugely heterogeneous group, so it's not appropriate to make sweeping generalisations based on non-representative samples.

Thanks @Scirocco I believe it is not Ok to make sweeping generalisations about any group. There is no group of people that it is OK to do this about.
Ridiculous that it was taken down merely for pointing out that there are people on who dislike being stereotyped themselves, but feel it’s OK to do it to other people.

That’s right. So next time somebody posts something like this about any group I’m sure you can be counted on to speak out.

And likewise, I’m sure you can be counted on to call out any unproductive point scoring that pits one group against another.

That’s why I come here.

Sure it is.