Standing up for Israel

[Fizzadora]

So, they have got to MN now too.
I just managed to read the previous post before it got deleted for being inflammatory. Not to me it wasn't but then I don't support terrorists.
Many, many people do stand for Israel and not for Hamas (and by definition their supporters; you know who you are).

The previous poster said that Hamas laying down arms and releasing hostages (both of which I absolutely believe they should do) would result in Israel leaving Palestine.

That's unlikely.

The occupation of Palestinian Territories did not begin following 7/10.

There are no grounds to believe that Hamas's surrender would lead to an end to occupation, especially given the severe trauma experienced by both Israelis and Palestinians during this. An end to occupation will require a lot more than that, including a willingness to make difficult compromises to achieve a sustainable peace and co-existence where there is currently a lot of fear and pain. There are some extremely right-wing and anti-Palestinian voices in government in Israel, who will likely not rush to make any form of withdrawal.

Go on…
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@Fussandmisery I think there's a hope that you or someone else might give dates that can the be argued about, or say something to which offence can be taken.

The international recognition of Palestinian Territories having been occupied pre-dates 7/10. Therefore, the surrender of the terrorist group/political entity responsible and the release of hostages taken on 7/10 is unlikely to be the solution to occupation.

What happened in 1967?

What happened in 1967?

There you go @Fussandmisery. exactly what @Scirocco is saying will happen.

The Six Day War
(This exchange could go on a while 🙃)

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=1967+Palestine

Helpful...always good to do your research.

I think recent posts on various threads are showing that Israels actions are becoming more and more indefensible.

It's extremely short sighted to say "it could all stop tomorrow if..." The conflict did not begin on Oct 7th. The Israeli government have been oppressing the Palestinians since the inception of Israel.

The bombing and fighting in Gaza could stop, the aid could restart, the rebuilding could begin
...or was that not the point of all the hand wringing and chest beating on these threads.... was it just looking for a better reason to label Israelis as monsters.

To dehumanise the Jewish people again.

Great to see Israeli based civil society and humanitarian organisations calling for a ceasefire.

https://gisha.org/en/israel-based-civil-society-and-human-rights-organizations-call-for-a-ceasefire/

Obviously the end of the war will mean the end of civilian deaths as you say but it will not bring about the end of hostility between the two groups.

As I said before it would not change anything in the West Bank and the current government in Israel needs to go as well as Hamas.

Well said and it seems to be something that is overlooked so often. The Israeli government needs to go ~ they have all been very vocal about their beliefs and what they want to happen to Palestine.

So the hand wringing horror about this war was just a ruse. Shame on you.

Do you support what Israel is doing in Gaza?

You know what else happened at Israel's inception? Come on, take a guess! If you need a clue, it involves a few different nations attacking another nation.

So the hand wringing horror about this war was just a ruse. Shame on you

Nope. Try again.

I don't need to try, your words speak for themselves.

Well so do yours

For those with the wit to understand them yes.

Would you like to try to explain your comment?

Quatumbutterfly, please do. Have the courage of your convictions.