Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

[Desertrose2023]

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Probably because that would have spooked multiple countries nearby and started an outright war with Jordan, Egypt, Yemen, Qatar and Syria all piling onto Israel, which in itself would be disastrous. The current Israeli govt/IDF have been chipping away slowly during this attack on Gaza to see what they can get away with in the international community.

Whether a population is erased over 24 hours, a fortnight, 128 days or 75 years, it’s still genocide. That is what the Israeli Govt are doing to 2.2million people right now, 99% of which are innocent civilians.

@Livinginanotherworld @Allourkids bbc has just verified the rescue footage and where it was taken.

Is this regard the recovered hostages?
Any shareable links?

@Allourkids I literally just watched it on the news.

I think I must be missing something - I’m not sure what you’re trying to tell me here about BBC verifying footage.

@Allourkids they showed where and when they were rescued from. Considering this thread was awash with conspiracy theories earlier (17.36) you asked for sources and then it came up on the bbc news.

I apologise. I thought you were interested. Perhaps I got the wrong poster.

Ah I see. No need to apologise - thanks for the info. I wasn’t questioning where they were rescued from, but the sources that said otherwise.

I would say what's happened in Gaza meets the definition of carpet bombing. It's been more intensively bombed than Hamburg or Dresden and 60% of the bombs dropped are "dumb bombs".

No one needs a degree in military strategy to read a definition and the news.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

Its cheaper and quicker to kill the civilians that way, fewer bombs needed when you concentrate people in a small area. You can also terrorise them more effectively before you kill them.

Haaretz - which I believe is an israeli news source is stating that the 2 hostages were released on 2nd February? Something is not adding up.

Because they knew they couldn't do it in full view of the world. They just doing it bit by bit, instead.

These are the 2 men that have been rescued.

Do you have a link to it? I’ve read mixed info about this and if haaretz is posting they might know something ..

@EasterIssland it was on a news agency x page. The haaretz link won't open. Of course I am not naive enough to think things cannot be changed on the internet but the screen shot is one I cropped as to not show the other hostages - only the rescued old fellas.

Oh sorry just seen it does mention 2nd February.

https://twitter.com/JonnyFX1/status/1757132907947204871?t=4FiM2h4042ACyl74yuBFlQ&s=19

@EasterIssland this is only one link. Who knows what the truth is. It has been sorely lacking over the past 4 months.

That's so strange because on top it says 129 days and it's only been 128 days since 7/10/23

Here's the link to that article:

It says he was rescued today

www.timesofisrael.com/taken-captive-argentine-born-louis-har-and-fernando-marman/

Interesting. This is their current website

@anotherlevel time difference?

Ah I hadn't thought of that, thanks.

True tho it’s 1130 right now in Israel , isn’t it ?

there is a lot of misinformation about this on Twitter. I believe the article its not new , it was first about their families and has been reused to add that they’ve been rescued today.

@EasterIssland then it should be 128 days still?

I was just wondering.
I know certain news sources in Israel (and all countries) use AI to add more info from old articles. @EasterIssland I agree.

I have had the footage sent to me of the rescue that's being shown in Israel. Hopefully it will be released on British media soon.

Its first page in times of Israel , I saw it when checking the date