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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

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Desertrose2023 · 17/01/2024 14:17

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture | Mumsnet

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardme...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

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inkworks273 · 07/02/2024 17:24

x.com/qudsnen/status/1755266157643247864?s=46

"Israel's army targets a water distribution tank, killing 13 civilians, including 7 children, in Gaza."

BackandForthRoundandRound · 07/02/2024 19:59

inkworks273 · 07/02/2024 17:24

x.com/qudsnen/status/1755266157643247864?s=46

"Israel's army targets a water distribution tank, killing 13 civilians, including 7 children, in Gaza."

Just when I think they couldn't get any worse... deliberately targeting a water tank is absolutely warped behaviour (I can't add what else I want to!)

EasterIssland · 07/02/2024 23:45

I was replying to the pinkwashing of a comment today and found this (it’s from 2014)

“Stories over the past few months have revealed that in fact the Israeli army pressures LGBTQ Palestinians into becoming informants against their friends and families by blackmailing them and threatening to expose their sexualities. “

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2014/8/9/against-the-pinkwashing-of-israel

Against the pinkwashing of Israel

Why supporting Palestinians is a queer and feminist issue.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2014/8/9/against-the-pinkwashing-of-israel

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 00:51

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DrH8Ig8lw/?igsh=dDE5dnBqZmg5OWRl An Israeli soldier decides to advertise his barber shop while next to murdered Palestinians on the ground....

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DrH8Ig8lw?igsh=dDE5dnBqZmg5OWRl

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 00:56

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Bm_XWoaPa/?igsh=cW9kMHcwZGV0d3dz A journalist ask why they fired tear gas at children who were on their way to school... back in 2014 (The Stone Cold Justice documentary)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Bm_XWoaPa?igsh=cW9kMHcwZGV0d3dz

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 01:18

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3AXwpCNek1/?igsh=NGVqNHI1a3lkNTNs Israeli army deliberately shooting two horses (who were not a threat)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3AXwpCNek1?igsh=NGVqNHI1a3lkNTNs

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 01:27

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3AnT7-gYt0/?igsh=MWFxY3NraHY1aHM2Mw== Israeli soldiers destroy a mosque simply because they want to ~ more needless destruction. (He is quite happy announcing why they are doing it.)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3AnT7-gYt0?igsh=MWFxY3NraHY1aHM2Mw%3D%3D

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 01:34

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3BjUt6NHRw/?igsh=MTJzbXhlMm85ZWZmMg== Israeli settlers (acting like extremists) have set up militias to stop and check aid trucks demanding to see papers etc while the Israeli police just happen to be standing by doing nothing while this happens. (Also preventing these trucks from going through ~ a man is at the end speaking about how he and his children are there to stop any going through.) Would be quite an extreme, intimidating experience for the drivers to go through in all honesty.

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3BjUt6NHRw?igsh=MTJzbXhlMm85ZWZmMg%3D%3D

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 01:53

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2_W4o5ulfw/?igsh=bmx5NGZoa3lxdmRh Israeli soldiers march blindfolded men and children into a bombed building..... This is completely disturbing and I strongly suspect one reason only for them doing so...

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2_W4o5ulfw?igsh=bmx5NGZoa3lxdmRh

Efacsen · 08/02/2024 07:58

I really don't understand snipers killing sheep - is it some kind of target practice or removing another source of food from people

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 08:15

Efacsen · 08/02/2024 07:58

I really don't understand snipers killing sheep - is it some kind of target practice or removing another source of food from people

You forgot the others reason: lack of brain

quite likely a mix of the 3 of them

Efacsen · 08/02/2024 08:33

Whatever the reason it's depriving starving people of milk/meat

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 10:07

Efacsen · 08/02/2024 08:33

Whatever the reason it's depriving starving people of milk/meat

There have been a few other videos doing the rounds with different animals and it seems to be starvation tactics behind it. I also agree with lack of brains full stop with them too

anotherlevel · 08/02/2024 10:46

I'm trying to find a link to the post below but it shows kidnapped Palestinian men in a room blindfolded and handcuffed. They were then executed.

www.instagram.com/reel/C3EyuYVuk8V/?igsh=MWNoc2x2c3VveGtmdg==

Desertrose2023 · 08/02/2024 10:48

I don’t think it’s lack of brains. It’s lack of basic morality and empathy. Anyone who takes pleasure in torturing or killing animals - with the further intent of taking pleasure in starving other humans- is a psychopath in my view.

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BelleHathor · 08/02/2024 11:03

Desertrose2023 · 08/02/2024 10:48

I don’t think it’s lack of brains. It’s lack of basic morality and empathy. Anyone who takes pleasure in torturing or killing animals - with the further intent of taking pleasure in starving other humans- is a psychopath in my view.

There are certain personality types that are drawn to combat and are more likely to commit war crimes.

When I see the repeated images if torture of prisoners it reminds me of the atrocities committed on prisoners that were "detained" during the war on terror.
https://theconversation.com/how-we-discovered-a-personality-profile-linked-to-war-crimes-130622

How we discovered a personality profile linked to war crimes

The military should take more care when hiring new staff if we are to prevent atrocities in wars.

https://theconversation.com/how-we-discovered-a-personality-profile-linked-to-war-crimes-130622

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 11:14

x.com/beckettunite/status/1755504321637064735?s=46

"The Israeli army prevent a Red Crescent ambulance from entering Nour Shams refugee camp yesterday to treat injured Palestinians.

It’s in the West Bank. Hamas are not in the West Bank.

Nothing to do with defence.
Everything to do with oppression."

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 11:29

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 11:14

x.com/beckettunite/status/1755504321637064735?s=46

"The Israeli army prevent a Red Crescent ambulance from entering Nour Shams refugee camp yesterday to treat injured Palestinians.

It’s in the West Bank. Hamas are not in the West Bank.

Nothing to do with defence.
Everything to do with oppression."

Hamas are in the West Bank

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67695861

Demonstrators carry Hamas flags at a protest against the war in Gaza, after Friday prayers in Hebron, in the occupied West Bank (8 December 2023)

Support for Hamas grows among Palestinians in West Bank

Israel aims to destroy the group in Gaza, but its influence is spreading in the occupied West Bank.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67695861

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 11:31

anotherlevel · 08/02/2024 10:46

I'm trying to find a link to the post below but it shows kidnapped Palestinian men in a room blindfolded and handcuffed. They were then executed.

www.instagram.com/reel/C3EyuYVuk8V/?igsh=MWNoc2x2c3VveGtmdg==

So can we see a link where it says these people were Palestinian and executed?

Otherwise it's not verifiable.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 11:33

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Desertrose2023 · 08/02/2024 11:48

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Are you really comparing killing animals for food with killing them for sport / boredom / in order to starve people ?

give your head a wobble.

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anotherlevel · 08/02/2024 11:49

@Ladyjanegreysketle

So are these guys ; www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/i-killed-10-with-my-own-hands-idf-reveals-how-a-hamas-terrorist-brags-about-killing-jews-to-parents-on-victim-s-phone-101698198333004.html

Why is it necessary to counter an IDF atrocity with one of Hamas? This thread is about ISRAELI's atrocities. There's another thread about Hamas's ones you can post this on.

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