Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

952 replies

Desertrose2023 · 17/01/2024 14:17

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture | Mumsnet

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardme...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

OP posts:
Thread gallery
76
Efacsen · 03/02/2024 20:01

which is what you said and @stomachameleon tagged the wrong poster

niceandnew · 04/02/2024 01:26

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 18:36

In another thread (or maybe this one) someone is saying how nice idf is because they stop to feed dogs or cats

@EasterIssland In case you were wondering. In the clip I saw the IDF were feeding the animals water and some scraps of food from a tin.

Your assumption shows how obviously determined you are to paint Israel as evil. This is how misinformation and libels start and spread.

inkworks273 · 04/02/2024 05:54

niceandnew · 04/02/2024 01:26

@EasterIssland In case you were wondering. In the clip I saw the IDF were feeding the animals water and some scraps of food from a tin.

Your assumption shows how obviously determined you are to paint Israel as evil. This is how misinformation and libels start and spread.

Edited

I don’t think the IDF need much help being painted as evil. Their actions do that for them.

So good of them to feed some animals for a photo op. Meanwhile they and their government are deliberately starving 2.1 million people, including a million children. So maybe jump off your high horse.

inkworks273 · 04/02/2024 06:04

x.com/nournaim88/status/1753911266429583523?s=12

Meanwhile, here's a video of a bunch of injured children including a baby. The IDF, the most moral, animal loving army bombed them in a safe area in Rafah.

EasterIssland · 04/02/2024 07:13

niceandnew · 04/02/2024 01:26

@EasterIssland In case you were wondering. In the clip I saw the IDF were feeding the animals water and some scraps of food from a tin.

Your assumption shows how obviously determined you are to paint Israel as evil. This is how misinformation and libels start and spread.

Edited

Don’t think I’ve to try it too hard to paint the army of a country as evil , they’re doing that themselves … otherwise we’d not be on thread number 3 about tortures and racism by idf.

inkworks273 · 04/02/2024 08:53

archive.is/xMdX1

Haaretz: Opinion | 11,500 Children Have Been Killed in Gaza. Horror of This Scale Has No Explanation

Two hundred and sixty names of babies whose age was 0; names of babies who didn't get to celebrate their first birthday, nor will they ever celebrate anything else. Here are some of their names: Abdul Jawad Hussu, Abdul Khaleq Baba, Abdul Rahim Awad, Abdul Rauf al-Fara, Murad Abu Saifan, Nabil al-Eidi, Najwa Radwan, Nisreen al-Najar, Oday al-Sultan, Zayd al-Bahbani, Zeyn al-Jarusha, Zayne Shatat. What dreams did their parents have for them? Then there are hundreds of names of one- and two-year old children; toddlers three or four years of age; children who were five, six, seven or eight, up to the youths who were 17 when they died.
Thousands of names, one after the other, out of the 11,500 children killed by the Israel Defense Forces in Gaza over the last four months. The list flows like credits at the end of a long movie, a mournful tune in the background. The Al-Jazeera network posted the list of names known to it over the weekend, a total of half the 11,500 who were killed, according to Hamas' health ministry. A child killed every 15 minutes, one out of every 100 children in Gaza.
Around them remained the children who witnessed the deaths of their loved ones, the parents who buried their babies, the people who had extricated their bodies from the fire and rubble, thousands of crippled children and tens of thousands forever in shock. According to UN figures, 10,000 children lost both parents in this war, a war in which two mothers die every hour.
No explanation, no justification or excuse could ever cover up this horror. It would be best if Israel's propaganda machine didn't even try to. No stories of "Hamas is responsible for it all," and no excuses pointing to Hamas hiding among civilians. Horror of this scope has no explanation other than the existence of an army and government lacking any boundaries set by law or morality.
Think of these babies, who died in their cribs and their diapers, of the children who tried to run for their lives to no avail. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine the 10,000 tiny bodies lying side by side; open them and see the mass graves, the overcrowded emergency rooms, with ambulances spewing out more and more children who are rushed in, unclear if dead or alive.
It's happening, even now, just over a one-hour drive from Tel Aviv. It's happening without being reported in Israel, without any public debate over the violent rampage Israel has allowed itself to wage in Gaza this time, more than ever before. This is also happening without anyone in Israel reflecting on what will come of this mass killing, on what Israel might gain from it and what price it will pay for it. Don't bother us, we are killing children.
The clichés are hackneyed and pathetic: "They started," "there is no choice," "what would you have us do?" "The IDF is doing everything it can to avoid the killing of innocent people." The truth is that Israel doesn't care, it doesn't even take any interest. After all, Palestinians don't love their children, and in any case, they would have only grown up to become terrorists.
In the meantime, Israel is erasing generations in Gaza, and its soldiers are killing children in numbers competing with the cruellest of wars. This will not and cannot be forgotten. How can a people ever forget those who killed its children in such a manner? How can people of conscience around the world remain silent over such mass killing of children? The fact that Israel is not deliberating this issue internally, with no tears or conscience in evidence, only desiring more of this war, until a "final victory" is achieved, does not bind the world. The world sees and is shocked.
The truth is, it's impossible to remain silent. Even Israel, so absorbed in its grief and its concern for the fate of the hostages; Israel, which itself sustained horrors on October 7, cannot ignore what is happening in Gaza. It takes seven minutes to display the list of thousands of dead children, passing at the same speed as their miserable lives did. By the end, one cannot remain silent; these are seven minutes that leave you choked up, distressed and deeply ashamed.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 04/02/2024 08:55

Deliberately targeting civilians (again)

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3
Auvergne63 · 04/02/2024 09:00

niceandnew · 04/02/2024 01:26

@EasterIssland In case you were wondering. In the clip I saw the IDF were feeding the animals water and some scraps of food from a tin.

Your assumption shows how obviously determined you are to paint Israel as evil. This is how misinformation and libels start and spread.

Edited

Could you, please, provide links to show that the idf care as much for animals as for the starving population? Do they carry emergency supplies with them? Pain killers? Antibiotics? Water?
There are numerous videos/ photos/ testimonies of the evil done to the Palestinians and yet you and others are still blind to it. Shameful.

Auvergne63 · 04/02/2024 09:21

inkworks273 · 04/02/2024 08:53

archive.is/xMdX1

Haaretz: Opinion | 11,500 Children Have Been Killed in Gaza. Horror of This Scale Has No Explanation

Two hundred and sixty names of babies whose age was 0; names of babies who didn't get to celebrate their first birthday, nor will they ever celebrate anything else. Here are some of their names: Abdul Jawad Hussu, Abdul Khaleq Baba, Abdul Rahim Awad, Abdul Rauf al-Fara, Murad Abu Saifan, Nabil al-Eidi, Najwa Radwan, Nisreen al-Najar, Oday al-Sultan, Zayd al-Bahbani, Zeyn al-Jarusha, Zayne Shatat. What dreams did their parents have for them? Then there are hundreds of names of one- and two-year old children; toddlers three or four years of age; children who were five, six, seven or eight, up to the youths who were 17 when they died.
Thousands of names, one after the other, out of the 11,500 children killed by the Israel Defense Forces in Gaza over the last four months. The list flows like credits at the end of a long movie, a mournful tune in the background. The Al-Jazeera network posted the list of names known to it over the weekend, a total of half the 11,500 who were killed, according to Hamas' health ministry. A child killed every 15 minutes, one out of every 100 children in Gaza.
Around them remained the children who witnessed the deaths of their loved ones, the parents who buried their babies, the people who had extricated their bodies from the fire and rubble, thousands of crippled children and tens of thousands forever in shock. According to UN figures, 10,000 children lost both parents in this war, a war in which two mothers die every hour.
No explanation, no justification or excuse could ever cover up this horror. It would be best if Israel's propaganda machine didn't even try to. No stories of "Hamas is responsible for it all," and no excuses pointing to Hamas hiding among civilians. Horror of this scope has no explanation other than the existence of an army and government lacking any boundaries set by law or morality.
Think of these babies, who died in their cribs and their diapers, of the children who tried to run for their lives to no avail. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine the 10,000 tiny bodies lying side by side; open them and see the mass graves, the overcrowded emergency rooms, with ambulances spewing out more and more children who are rushed in, unclear if dead or alive.
It's happening, even now, just over a one-hour drive from Tel Aviv. It's happening without being reported in Israel, without any public debate over the violent rampage Israel has allowed itself to wage in Gaza this time, more than ever before. This is also happening without anyone in Israel reflecting on what will come of this mass killing, on what Israel might gain from it and what price it will pay for it. Don't bother us, we are killing children.
The clichés are hackneyed and pathetic: "They started," "there is no choice," "what would you have us do?" "The IDF is doing everything it can to avoid the killing of innocent people." The truth is that Israel doesn't care, it doesn't even take any interest. After all, Palestinians don't love their children, and in any case, they would have only grown up to become terrorists.
In the meantime, Israel is erasing generations in Gaza, and its soldiers are killing children in numbers competing with the cruellest of wars. This will not and cannot be forgotten. How can a people ever forget those who killed its children in such a manner? How can people of conscience around the world remain silent over such mass killing of children? The fact that Israel is not deliberating this issue internally, with no tears or conscience in evidence, only desiring more of this war, until a "final victory" is achieved, does not bind the world. The world sees and is shocked.
The truth is, it's impossible to remain silent. Even Israel, so absorbed in its grief and its concern for the fate of the hostages; Israel, which itself sustained horrors on October 7, cannot ignore what is happening in Gaza. It takes seven minutes to display the list of thousands of dead children, passing at the same speed as their miserable lives did. By the end, one cannot remain silent; these are seven minutes that leave you choked up, distressed and deeply ashamed.

I listened to an interview with a doctor who works in Gaza. At the end of it, he just said, crying: " the dead are the lucky ones". I believe him.
To the posters who support this evil, I wish you could spend 5 minutes in Gaza, experience what Palestinians are "living" through, watch your loved ones die or suffer, not knowing when your life will end. Experience their emotional, psychological and physical distress. Then tell us this is a "just war". Tell us it is worth it.
Before anyone says "try to live in Israel under the threat of terrorist attacks", just so you know ,I have lived under that threat. It is horrid but cannot compare to the hell on earth that is Gaza now.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 04/02/2024 11:08

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C242VNWOwkS/?igsh=N2wxMDd0czJwdWZ5 Deliberately destroying homes and other important buildings (with Israeli soldiers cheering on in the background)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C242VNWOwkS?igsh=N2wxMDd0czJwdWZ5

BackandForthRoundandRound · 04/02/2024 11:11

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C25fx-jO7Ga/?igsh=MTVhZHE1M2I0bHJ5cg== Despite struggling enormously these men go out of their way to help this cat. (Their goodness shines through brightly)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C25fx-jO7Ga?igsh=MTVhZHE1M2I0bHJ5cg%3D%3D

BackandForthRoundandRound · 04/02/2024 11:16

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C21sVUWuI9f/?igsh=MWZiaG9oZ3dnNngzYQ== Palestinian child with severe third degree burns after Israeli army bombed his home. (Graphic)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C21sVUWuI9f?igsh=MWZiaG9oZ3dnNngzYQ%3D%3D

BackandForthRoundandRound · 04/02/2024 11:19

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2zXZZ4OjGK/?igsh=bWdnbGk3NGczbXJ0 A Palestinian medic has had his family targeted in an Israeli strike....

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2zXZZ4OjGK?igsh=bWdnbGk3NGczbXJ0

BackandForthRoundandRound · 04/02/2024 11:29

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2uKplAOA5X/?igsh=d2tpZmNnOXZrdGl4 Palestinian men held captive (faces now covered to try to prevent the earlier events of people being recognised ~ such as journalists, doctors, so on)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2uKplAOA5X?igsh=d2tpZmNnOXZrdGl4

anotherlevel · 04/02/2024 13:51

www.instagram.com/p/C27Sz2nMQkW/?igsh=MXd2ZjRvaWR3cnc4bg==

Disgusting.

Parkingt111 · 04/02/2024 14:14

Well according to haaretz, the IDF admit that they were behind the telegram channel that shares videos of Gazans being humiliated and abused that was aimed for Israelis
This channel was mentioned on one of these threads quite awhile ago and it's contents are disgusting

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1754099364782330214?t=1WMh3T3T0qwu2n59fn2BrA&s=19

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1754099364782330214?s=19&t=1WMh3T3T0qwu2n59fn2BrA

Parkingt111 · 04/02/2024 14:15

Perhaps some sort of twisted psychological warfare to further dehumanise Palestinians

EasterIssland · 05/02/2024 07:10

Rimal Neighborhood, Gaza city |

Israeli soldier Yosee Gamzoo publish a picture showing him torturing a Palestinian civilian in West Gaza city.

I blurred the gunshot on his leg. He is handcuffed and undressed.

triggerinf images in the thread but also more explanation in it

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1754291866588090601

inkworks273 · 05/02/2024 08:52

x.com/michael_david41/status/1754338483303596253?s=46

"This is not a war. This is not a conflict.

This. Is. A. Genocide.

High school students gunned down by IDF."

Swipe left for the next trending thread