Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!

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"Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!" was being chanted on the streets of London yesterday and last week.

I'm just interested in whether people think this is a reasonable thing to be chanting or not, because there were quite a few people chanting it. So a quick poll:

Are the Houthis a prescribed terrorist organisation in the UK? If Indonesia was committing a genocide against New Zealand and Australia put up a shipping blockade to try to prevent it would they be considered terrorists? Don’t countries have a responsibility under international law to prevent an ongoing genocide?

This is what I find double standards.

People supporting the Houthis who have slaughtered hundreds of thousands in their own country and caused hundreds of thousands more starvation. Barely a murmur about what they do to their own country.

Suddenly to some they are heroes and also to some of the sane stupid people, actually attractive, because they are against Israel.

No, it was discussed but decided against as it would restrict severely needed aid to Yemen (guess why Yemen needs aid?).

However the government have now said that support for the Houthi attacks is glorifying terrorism and there will be zero tolerance of this, so you really ought to start rethinking your approach.

Have you looked up the Houthi slogan and seen what they think of the Jews yet?

@XRAYTHIS I do not support the Houthis. I find it a sad day when Yemen is one of very few countries doing anything at all to stop Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

I can agree that the Houthis have done terrible things while also agreeing that the Israeli government and the IDF are no better than them.

I don't think the Houthis are a terrorist organisation in the UK yet

It's a sad day when people support a terrorist organisation that have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of their own people.

You can be against the IDF without supporting terrorists you know

I do not support the Houthis. I find it a sad day when Yemen is one of very few countries doing anything at all to stop Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

This is a fascinating switch of language.

I do not support the Houthis

I find it a sad day when Yemen is one the very few countries doing anything at all to stop Israel's genocide.

Why did you switch Houthi for Yemen when it is the Houthis who are attacking international shipping? Is it because you do actually support the Houthi attacks on international shipping but you're now aware that this is glorifying terrorism so you're trying to disguise it?

The Houthis are not targeting shipping because of the conflict in Israel and Gaza. The conflict is their cover for indiscriminate piracy and violence.

@XRAYTHIS I literally said I don't support the Houthis. I'm just not going to condemn an attempt to stop a genocide.

The Houthis are very much a case of your enemies enemies not being your friends. You don't want friends like those, unless you are someone who values a Palestinian life over a Yemeni one? Which I suppose it's possible you do, but I'd hope not.

In your opinion. It started after the genocide and also stopped when there was a temporary ceasefire.

Indeed the west that so many hates is sending aid to Yeman to feed the people left starving due to the war and destruction of Yeman by those 'lovely helpful ' Houthis. It would be funny if not so tragic for Yeman.

Why did you switch Houthi for Yemen in your post when you claimed not to support the Houthis?

This.

Yeman isn't attacking ships. It's civilians are starving.

Its the Houthis who caused their own peoples starvation which the west is attempting to help combat by sending in aid ships.

@inkworks273

What do you mean by "it started after the genocide"

Which genocide are you talking about?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/crew-seized-galaxy-leader-allowed-modest-contact-with-families-shipowner-2023-12-05/

These are the civilian hostages I'm concerned about. I can't seem to find any more up-to-date information about them.

Hostages who, by the way, weren't released during the temporary ceasefire.

You're not going to condemn these scum because...?

Nope. I can't get your argument at all

Inconvenient to the Houthis flag wavers to post about taking hostages from various nationalities and to others posting about the Houthis slaughtering and starving their own people. The houthis flag wavers don't worry about the truth it appears. 🤔

You don't support the houthis, you just keep repeatedly praising the actions of the houthis.

The genocide Israel is perpetrating against the Palestinians.

But you accept that the Houthis have attacked ships that have nothing to do with Israel or the conflict, don’t you?

How does that fit with your opinion?

And how does Iran’s funding and direction of the Houthis fit with your opinion?

Unfortunately you can’t put it as a characteristic of US (or UK) foreign policy either.

We can’t destabilise these countries and then tut tut that they are unstable.

That does not in any way mean that I support attacks on shipping, or other terrorism. But I do think the OP is being quite disingenuous by painting this as an inexplicable act of mindless terrorism rather than just the latest development in a violent, unstable area.

The Houthis have attacked Red Sea shipping before October 7th.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/14/iran-warns-us-of-problems-in-response-to-red-sea-task-force-plans

"Yet, Houthis have a history of attacking ships in the Red Sea. In January 2017, during their conflict with a Saudi-led coalition, they attacked the frigate Al Madinah using three remote-controlled unmanned explosive boats, forcing the Royal Saudi Navy to withdraw from Yemeni waters.
Encouraged by their success, in May and July 2018, they attacked two huge Saudi oil tankers with Iranian-built cruise missiles, similar to those used in recent attacks. Neutral-flagged ships were also attacked in the same period."

The ceasefire was from 24th to 30th November 2023.

Here's an article saying that a Houthi drone was launched in an attack on 29th November https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-houthi-drone-yemen-daf0427ba836799ba29479050b866f90

And you also previously said that the Houthis were only targeting ships headed for Israel.

Where are you getting your misinformation from, and do you think you should possibly rethink this?

Can you point out the post where I 'disingenuously' paint these attacks as an 'inexplicable act of mindless terrorism' please?

@inkworks273 I'm struggling to follow your logic here, sorry

Are you saying that this "genocide" started on 7 October.

That doesn't fit with the usual "free free Palestine" rhetoric

A sudden onset of a genocide. Ok