"The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part two) ***MNHQ has tweaked the title in order to make the quote more clear***

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Only the few apparently........these pictures are from todays March. Footage to follow..

@Trulywonderful - I can't find who asked for another one. Hope you Don't mind. I know your busy :)

Some real loons around

"Speaking at a pro-Palestinian rally in London, poet and activist Mohammed El-Kurd unleashed a furious tirade where he equated Zionism with all the world's ills, calling to purge all institutions in Western democracies of this alleged monstrosity. "

Basically he asked protesters to push Jewish people out of all organisations, institutions etc

Rivers of Blood speech - Remastered - London 2024

Swapping out the word Jews for Zionist doesn't mean this man should not be arrested. In fact it makes this vile speech worse because he is deliberately trying to get away with not owning his racist Jew hate.

https://twitter.com/jacker/status/1746248544745390449

The fuckwit also said

“We must normalize massacres as the status quo”

He should have been arrested for inciting violence the moment he left the stage

Not to mention arrested for the other racist stuff about pushing Jews out of their places of work etc

You don't need to apologise Sto I am not the boss of these threads. Just a very bossy person on them 😁

Houthi supporter

Someone that hasn't looked at the BBC or the Guardian coverage of the conflict or basically anything Jewish related

However please listen to him and cancel your TV licence, about time the BBC was boycotted until they get their act together and report what is actually happening (Not what this protesters is implying but frankly that doesn't matter)

I am actually really impressed with the artwork of this sign

However they are literally only upset with Starbucks because it objects to staff using their messaging system with the Starbucks logo for political or personal purposes. This something most employers insist their staff never do

Also the image shared was of the pogrom in October to celebrate it. So that wasn't very nice and not something to boycott a company for objecting too. However the first point is why the staff were in trouble

The red triangle thing again that some users were trying to say isn't about Hamas on another thread a while back

Anyone want to share their thoughts on what this red triangle thing is about? Explain it to me and others? I am genuinely not that informed on it but have seen it on some very blatant pro Hamas tweets, as in them literally saying they support Hamas etc

extremismterms.adl.org/glossary/inverted-red-triangle

Also the image shared was of the pogrom in October to celebrate it. So that wasn't very nice and not something to boycott a company for objecting too. However the first point is why the staff were in trouble

The union are countersuing Starbucks for defamation for Starbucks saying they posted support of Hamas. Which they did.

Safe to assume then folks using this sign have feck all interest in peace.

Thank you sto

So back on the other thread when I asked if it meant these people were showing support for Hamas the person that replied to me was definitely lieing

I thought at the time they probably were and have since realised supporters of Hamas are definitely using the red triangle. However do like to give people the benefit of the doubt until I am sure of things

Someone argued that the red triangle was innocent?

I suppose that guy is helpfully carrying the Iranian flag in case you still weren't sure of his allegiance.

Little Amal, a 12ft giant puppet of a Syrian child refugee, accompanied protesters as they marched towards Parliament Square. Amir Nizar Zuabi, the artistic director of Walk With Amal, was among the marchers.

He said: “Amal is a Syrian child. She’s 10. She’s a representation of refugee children everywhere.”

Zuabi is Palestinian. “Refugees and Palestine are almost synonyms. We have some of the longest-existing refugee population in the world. Gaza is consistent with lots of refugees, all the refugees that came from Jaffa and what we call the Sahel, the coastal areas of Palestine are now in the refugee camps in Gaza and are targeted again,” he said.

“One of the things that is so, so horribly loud and atrociously clear is the fact that children are being targeted in large numbers,” he added.

Just to add a little perspective on why the vast majority are marching. Thousands of civilian casualties many of them children, mass displacement, starvation...

I have always supported these marches (I've never joined one because I live to far away) and am horrified by the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza. I know there's a lot of anti Israel feeling around, especially amongst their neighbours. Awful to see this hatred on the street of London though. I refuse to believe most people who want an immediate ceasefire hate Jewish people though. Most people I know are horrified by all the deaths in Gaza, I don't believe they only think this because they hate Jews. We're a half Jewish family, not that that should make any difference.

Now I know posters will come along and say Hamas should just
surrender (I agree) and the bombing will stop. Hamas is not going to surrender
though, because they are blood thirsty maniacs with little or nothing to
distinguish them from ISIS. And yes I do hold Israel to a higher standard than
Hamas. Israel is an elected democratic government and absolutely no way should
they have the blood of thousands of children on their hands, they should be
better than that, better than the terrorists that attacked them.

Coming back to the marches though, never mind the police, why
didn't the people around them do something? I want to go on the marches because
I want the bombing to stop but I don’t want to go on the marches because I don’t
want to walk next to somebody holding such a sign. In the same way I want to
wear in Israeli flag to show solidarity after the October attacks, but don’t
want it to be read as support for the IDF. I also want to wear a Palestinian
flag as objection to the bombing but don’t want it to be read as support for
Hamas.

Seeing a lot of this boycott until a company or organisation drop a legal action.

For example BDS Malaysia have told McDonalds they will boycott them until they drop the legal action being taken against BDS Malaysia and ideally cut all ties with McDonalds Israel (which is a franchise anyway for goodness sake). They have clearly stated though that the first thing is the most important to happen if McDonalds want them to stop boycotting.

Apparently the boycotts and protests outside some places are not about Gaza at all but about getting legal action for bad behaviour of protesters dropped

I suppose it is nice of them to let us know exactly what they are

We have some of the longest-existing refugee population in the world.

Let's talk about that.
Lebanon have 450,000 Palestinian refugees. About 70% of them don't have Lebanese citizenship. That means they Don't get basic human rights like freedom of movement, healthcare and education. They can't work in 20% of the jobs or own lane. They 'live in appalling social and economic conditions' They don't get citizenship so can't even be classed as second class citizens.
Awful situation.

Jordan.
6 million Palestinian refugees and 750,000 don't have Jordanian or any citizenship. Can't vote in parliament, have a job or buy any property. So many human rights removed in the name
Of keeping the Hashemite kingdom safe.

I could go on about the violent Islamic regimes that Palestinians are subject to or the corrupt Palestinian authority.

Is Amal a symbol of all those refugees?

For example BDS Malaysia have told McDonalds they will boycott them until they drop the legal action being taken against BDS Malaysia and ideally cut all ties with McDonalds Israel

I guess that they can't demand that Starbucks cut ties with Starbucks Israel seeing as Starbucks isn't in Israel.

I do wonder what the people holding signs like that anti-Starbucks one think that Starbucks has done.

Yes the Starbucks not being an Israeli company or even having any branches or franchise etc in Israel, Gaza or West Bank is a interesting boycott/protest

However the Zara one is even more of a give your head a wobble. They yes had a advert/photo shoot that was maybe a bit iffy looking. However once they realised the issue they binned the Advert

The thing about a expensive photo shoot like that is they are normally designed and planned weeks in advance. You need to book models, photographs, get sets designed and built. This photo shoot would likely have been designed way before Israel dropped any bombs. So it really is very likely to have been one hell of a coincidental cock up.

I just don't get what they want Zara to do other than what they did instantly, stop using the images and apologise for any coincidence to the conflict.

I mean rather than harassment of Zara and their customers the protesters could be outside Westminster or a military weapons supplier or something. How do they think they are helping people in Gaza by shouting in a shopping mall to a company that isn't connected to Israel?

Sadly there’s always going to be a small number of people behaving badly on any protest, regardless what the protest is about. Thankfully the large majority marching (like everyone i know) simply want Israel army to stop dropping bombs willy nilly on vulnerable children, women, babies, elderly, disabled, men and ensure aid reaches those desperately in need. I hope that the Israeli army leaders are held fully accountable for their war crimes.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/13/south-africa-israel-genocide-the-hague?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

interesting article about genocide.

Thankfully the large majority marching (like everyone i know) simply want Israel army to stop dropping bombs willy nilly on vulnerable children, women, babies, elderly, disabled, men and ensure aid reaches those desperately in need.

One would hope that they also want the Israeli hostages released and for Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel?

You can't possibly know what the large majority of the marchers want.