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25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 00:29

@ParentofanewPC I don’t think your Jesus, who was definitely a Jew and not a Palestinian, would be particularly enamoured of your goady antisemitism, and I thought lying was a sin.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 00:34

Jesus a Palestinian born in Bethlehem

OK definitely a joke, which user has done a name change to give us a laugh 😂

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plusjamais · 31/12/2023 00:34

@ParentofanewPC I can't support that and never will, my Jesus a Palestinian born in Bethlehem, always stood up for the weak and defenceless, especially children

It is a compliment, seeing most are to the right of the present arseholes in government and either want all non whites sent home or all benefit receivers to be neutered. So to them anyone left of Genghis Khan is a communist.

Sorry but you just sound like a Skawkbox mouthpiece parroting whatever crap you've seen on social media and therefore I can't take you seriously. Au revoir.

copiley695 · 31/12/2023 00:37

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These are all things that the Socialist Worker has said, the publication you like so much. I don't support genocide or war crimes (and frankly how fucking dare you accuse me of that) but they do.

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 00:41

I now no longer attend church or listen to mainsteam media and TV. the two greatest terrorist states of all time are the USA and UK, the most sanctioned country is Israel.

This is what radicalisation sounds like.

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 00:45

Copiley695
I condemn Hamas attack on the 890 civilians, if the ICC confirm rape I condemn that. The killing of the soldiers and Israeli spy's I not sure about, as my maternal great aunt's husband was a Dane and both his parents and relatives where in the resistance movement of WW2 and killed Nazi and Danes who worked with the Nazi's so I am conflicted on those.
I don't think Israel should have ever been formed in Palestine, but I am 76 years out of date, I want ( makes fuck all difference because what Israel and the USA/UK and European Union wants is what will happen) to go to the 1948 UN plan SO ISRAEL + PALESTINE + NEUTRAL JERUSALEM.

So will you condemn with your fellow Israeli fan girls the murder of Naheda Anton and her daughter Samr Anton, the illegal murder of over 200 Palestinian journalists and the numerous bombings of Mosques, churches, refugee camps, schools and hospitals. What about Israeli settlers and soldiers urinating on Palestinian corpses or abusing women and shooting children?

After all according to the USA, UK and EU all the above are illegal when Russia did them, so are they not illegal to Israel? Or am I just a thick working class lad from East Yorkshire without your private and university education

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 00:52

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 31/12/2023 01:01

@ParentofanewPC
It is a compliment, seeing most are to the right of the present arseholes in government and either want all non whites sent home or all benefit receivers to be neutered. So to them anyone left of Genghis Khan is a communist.

I want to make sure that I have understood properly, so please clarify if I have misunderstood your position:

  • you do not believe non-whites in the UK should be ‘sent home’.
  • you do believe that Jews in Israel/Palestine should be ‘sent home’/sent away/in some way removed from that piece of land.

Have I understood that correctly?

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 01:05

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@Trulywonderful Indeed. They most definitely do not approve of the Soulless Zionist Sociopaths. It seems someone has helped themselves to a bit too much of the Christmas sherry while their parents weren’t looking.

copiley695 · 31/12/2023 01:07

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 00:45

Copiley695
I condemn Hamas attack on the 890 civilians, if the ICC confirm rape I condemn that. The killing of the soldiers and Israeli spy's I not sure about, as my maternal great aunt's husband was a Dane and both his parents and relatives where in the resistance movement of WW2 and killed Nazi and Danes who worked with the Nazi's so I am conflicted on those.
I don't think Israel should have ever been formed in Palestine, but I am 76 years out of date, I want ( makes fuck all difference because what Israel and the USA/UK and European Union wants is what will happen) to go to the 1948 UN plan SO ISRAEL + PALESTINE + NEUTRAL JERUSALEM.

So will you condemn with your fellow Israeli fan girls the murder of Naheda Anton and her daughter Samr Anton, the illegal murder of over 200 Palestinian journalists and the numerous bombings of Mosques, churches, refugee camps, schools and hospitals. What about Israeli settlers and soldiers urinating on Palestinian corpses or abusing women and shooting children?

After all according to the USA, UK and EU all the above are illegal when Russia did them, so are they not illegal to Israel? Or am I just a thick working class lad from East Yorkshire without your private and university education

Comparing Israeli soldier's murdered in the massacre to Nazis while praising a pro-Hamas and pro-Massacre publication, nice.

I don't know who those "fellow Israeli fan girls" are or what makes you think I'm an "Israeli fan girl" so I don't know why it's my duty to comdemn them.

a thick working class lad

Yeah I thought so. A "lad" who joined mumsnet just to insult people.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 01:13

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 01:05

@Trulywonderful Indeed. They most definitely do not approve of the Soulless Zionist Sociopaths. It seems someone has helped themselves to a bit too much of the Christmas sherry while their parents weren’t looking.

Yes and no

You will see

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 01:15

Lad / dad you say tomato I say tomato

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BigFrau · 31/12/2023 01:16

Is that you, Wolfie?

setsu · 31/12/2023 01:17

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I was referring to the article in the OP. The one you enjoyed so much and called "the truth". Like this bit for example:

In the South Vietnamese capital Saigon, liberation fighters blasted a hole into a US embassy compound and stepped foot on their occupiers’ soil. This happened last Saturday as Palestinians tore down the fences that imprison them and trod on land seized by Israel.

(Bearing in mind the article was written on 9th October).

I mean it's in the title for Christ's sake. They're rejoicing over the attacks.

And I'm not sure why you think me calling Hamas and their supporters (like the author of the article you love so much) terrorist scum makes me a supporter of war crimes and genocide.

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 01:21

I have now at least twice condemned HAMAS. I again condemn Hamas I have met Terry Waite, due to my volunteering at Emmaus. I have also met with Gerry Adams, because I was a friend of an Irish agri student in 1987 to 1990 and visited him in his home in Ballyshannon. I also met with John Hume in passing. I have also been to been to SWP, SDP and sadly Tory meetings.
I boycotted South Africa and campaigned for peace in Ireland. I went to Palestine meetings in London in the 1990, when the PLO was the terrorists.

The one thing I know is you can not bomb or kill our way out of armed conflict, as what follows is always worse. I take it you all didn't follow history at school, or maybe you only did empire studies? The British empire killed more innocents then Hamas and the US has a history of bloody coups.
Look at Syria, Afghanistan. Libya, Zimbabwe, Iran and Iraq for the glory of US and UK foreign policy.

But like any one who does not support Israel I am either a Anti-Semitic or a terrorist been programmed. Or maybe i just one of millions in the UK and world who doesn't automatically support everything the west and Israel does. But that was what my crapping 1980 comprehensive education taught us.

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 01:22

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 01:15

Lad / dad you say tomato I say tomato

Aha.

BigFrau · 31/12/2023 01:31

@ParentofanewPC you seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder about being working class, comprehensive school etc when literally no one on here gives a shit

As for patronisingly asking whether we did history at school, some of us actually lived it mate and are dealing with the aftermath of that every day

Stop assuming everyone else is a white, middle class, clueless female. Your prejudices are showing and it's not a good look

plusjamais · 31/12/2023 01:35

BigFrau · 31/12/2023 01:16

Is that you, Wolfie?

😂

Girahim · 31/12/2023 01:44

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 01:21

I have now at least twice condemned HAMAS. I again condemn Hamas I have met Terry Waite, due to my volunteering at Emmaus. I have also met with Gerry Adams, because I was a friend of an Irish agri student in 1987 to 1990 and visited him in his home in Ballyshannon. I also met with John Hume in passing. I have also been to been to SWP, SDP and sadly Tory meetings.
I boycotted South Africa and campaigned for peace in Ireland. I went to Palestine meetings in London in the 1990, when the PLO was the terrorists.

The one thing I know is you can not bomb or kill our way out of armed conflict, as what follows is always worse. I take it you all didn't follow history at school, or maybe you only did empire studies? The British empire killed more innocents then Hamas and the US has a history of bloody coups.
Look at Syria, Afghanistan. Libya, Zimbabwe, Iran and Iraq for the glory of US and UK foreign policy.

But like any one who does not support Israel I am either a Anti-Semitic or a terrorist been programmed. Or maybe i just one of millions in the UK and world who doesn't automatically support everything the west and Israel does. But that was what my crapping 1980 comprehensive education taught us.

If you don't like Hamas then maybe don't talk about an article celebrating the Hamas terror attacks as 'the truth for a change' and say that folk must be a genocide supporters because they called Hamas terrorist scum. Just a thought.

And nobody gives a shit who you met, or what meetings you've been to, or what school you went to. Seriously, it doesn't matter if you were BFFs with Nelson Mandela or whatever you're going to come out with next.

BigFrau · 31/12/2023 01:48

Exactly. Logic fail. Thought process all over the place.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 01:48

Lots of people meet all sorts of people every day.

Some people you only meet once but stay friends with for the rest of your life or they make a lasting impression on you and shape your views

SOCIALIST REVOLUTIONARIES FOR HAMAS?
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25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 01:54

@ParentofanewPC

You will only condemn rape if it’s confirmed by the ICC?

You’re conflating murdered Israeli soldiers with Nazis?

Patronising and insulting “Israeli fan girls” while making prejudiced assumptions about their backgrounds?

I don’t care about your crapping 1980’s education or your dubious condemnation of Hamas but you can add misogynist to the list of antisemite and talking like a radicalised teenager.

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 02:09

"girls"

Tell us your a white middle age or older man just by saying one word

Plus we all know that wasn't the first time a woman has called this poster a mystogist

I definitely know this poster has be called a Jez fanboy before. Which does mean a level of radicalisation is there too

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ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 02:33

Big Frau
Notice I haven't attacked any one, i have condemned Hamas and will do again. i am not a cave dweller as one pp called me or a terrorist in waiting. Just a parent of 2 boys, one who will be doing 12 hours policing a northern English city centre tomorrow night ( I couldn't be prouder of him) and one who has spent every day but Christmas day at Sainburys making sure you all got your Christmas food (couldn't be prouder of him too)Plus my son worked 12 hours into Christmas Day and my spouse worked both Christmas day and Boxing Day for our police force. I will be working all over new year's weekend.
But because I care for Palestine you and you friends on here have to de-humanise us.

But Like i said i won't change your mind, you certainly won't stop my beliefs.
i hope all here have a peaceful and Happy New Year, and unlike millions of Gazan's don't spend the next 48 hours wondering when the IDF will kill you.

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 03:56

Truly
who has attacked me before, I have only made one post on mumsnet before, about and on Chris Kaba in the news section. I have not posted on any other thread before.

But it is so easy to attack me, I notice you and no one else has condemned the murder of Naheda and Samr Anton by Israeli troops, I think that says all I need to know.