Opinion piece in newspaper -RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12878659/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-marches-intimidate-British-Jews-tolerate-hatred-streets.html

He raises some interesting ideas.

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Well this has happened in America and going to REALLY not convince people these marches and protests are appropriate

Seriously how is pulling a stunt like this that will get appual the general public supposed to help people in Gaza

https://twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1740771713560756255

For context of how bad this idea to protest at the world trade centre is:

The 9/11, the target was selected by Al Qaeda because it was seen as Jewish.

During the 2006 trial of Mounir el-Motassadeq, a surviving member of the 9/11 cell, in Hamburg, a fellow Islamist student gave evidence that Motassadeq believed in a ‘Jewish world conspiracy’ and was convinced that ‘the Second World War had been engineered by the Jews so that they could establish Israel’.

The group were particularly interested in New York, the witness added, as they saw it as ‘the centre of world Jewry’.

Motassadeq’s housemates testified that he had boasted about a forthcoming ‘big action’, gushing: ‘The Jews will burn and in the end we will dance on their graves.’

On top of all that most Americans understand the death toll and still feel the pain of those families that lost loved ones on that. This is not going down well at all.

Wow. Outside the World Trade Centre and the other day the Holocaust museum.

I remember some people around the world celebrating after 9/11... videos from Palestinine celebrating the 'victory'. I imagine some Americans remember that too. Careful whom you support. The links are further down from yours above. Cheering on Al Quieda for murdering thousands of people on aeroplanes, in the Trade Centres, the Pentagon etc. The useful idiots embolden them.

They really hate Jews. Ask them if Jewish people run the world why are there so few of them. If only they built up their own instead of focusing on destruction of others.

I truly believe that part of why they are doing it there is because they are sending a message to American they can do anything and get away with it. Plus to send a message around the world that they are getting away with doing this. Some will be cheerleading this move as a sign extreme Islam is winning even in America. Long term though they have royally shot themselves in the foot, similar to what Hamas did on 7th October. This is taking things beyond what most people will put up with and accept.

I have noticed that people I mix with whether work or social don't support or attend the marches due to the radical elements. The counter terrorism group really need to keep a watch on things.

A couple of colleagues at work did attend two of the marches in the beginning. One said her husband stayed until 9pm and had a really fun time (whatever that means). They have not continued though. Even though I have heard them say some dodgy stuff and I know they are not keen on my Jewishness shall we say. They realise the marches and protests are going to far up a road they don't want to be associated with.

@Trulywonderful

www.cbsnews.com/news/intelligence-report-warns-of-rising-foreign-terror-threats/

Marching outside Ground Zero sends a message.

You’re missing my point. I think the Free Palestine marches are being used / exploited by some people with a pro- Hamas agenda.

Yes.

I agree. I think people are being used and don't realise it. Counter terrorism have their work cut out. I hope they don't miss anything or anyone.

I guess people think they are 'doing something ' maybe not what they think though

www.newsweek.com/allahu-akbar-chant-world-trade-center-video-1856402

I think we all know what it means religiously but the use at that place on a protest shows a massive lack of awareness or is just being done to wind up people.

The whole protest there sucks and now these idiots are likely to of made things harder for the average Muslim American too. Some nut cases will look at this and think all Muslim people want to attack American or something. If the protester there want Islamophobia to rise more in American they have likely just achieved that. Hope they are proud of themselves.

Totally fuckwits that seriously don't care about anything else but there cause and even then are not exactly helping it

The 9/11, the target was selected by Al Qaeda because it was seen as Jewish.

That is some piece of clap trap revisionist history there. The WTC twin towers were targeted because being the two tallest buildings in the world was a symbol of American economic might and intelligence. It had the largest FBI field office. It had a Secret Service office. It had the IRS office for tax fraud. It had the SEC office, the SEC oversees the stock exchange, it had the NYC Emergency response office and many other offices of large financial companies like Citibank. It also meant high civilian casualties.

If they’d have wanted a Jewish target in NYC they’d have crashed the two planes in a Jewish neighbourhood of NYC, like Brooklyn which has over a half a million Jewish residents.

The Pentagon was targeted because it is a symbol of American military might.

No one knows exactly where the third plane, flight 93, was supposed to go. There are many theories. One theory is that the target was a bunker in VA where the President, Congress and so on are supposed to evacuate to and shelter in the event of an attack on US soil. The hijackers also waited until after the reports of the attacks on the twin towers had been done and reported before making their move. It was at that point, the plane turned and started heading east and southerly. The passengers also heard of the twin towers on board as well and that was one reason why they decided to mutiny and attenpt to take back the plane as they knew it was a hijacking with crash to come, not a hijacking with a safe landing and ransom demands.

I have marked the location of this bunker (it’s been known about publicly since 1974 so this is info any terrorist would have at the time. The bunker is now a museum)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12909975/France-heightens-security-New-Years-Eve-high-terrorist-threat-blamed-war-Gaza-90-000-police-set-deployed.html

Yes - I believe these actions will sadly increase Islamophobia.

How do you know?

Did you take a straw poll?

I would suggest that whoever put up that petition is anti-Semitic.

It was what was said by one of the terrorist to his room mates and to a Islamic student he knew. It was used as evidence at the 2006 trial of Mounir el-Motassadeq, a surviving member of the 9/11 cell, in Hamburg

So whether you believe it to be true or not this particular terrorist said it to 3 different people apparently

Maybe that was his own personal motivation to join in the attack. I have no idea. Just saying what was said in evidence against him.

Oh, I believe this nobody said those things to a fellow student, but not his own flat mates. Perhaps you mean the fellow student’s room mates?

But the courts found that he did not even know about the 9/11 attacks or plot them. He was exonerated on appeal. I don’t know why you call him a “surviving member” as he never set foot in the US. He was in Hamburg when the attack happened. He was a nobody, as he didn’t even know about the attacks, how could he possibly have known why they were selected?

He was convicted later for being a member of a terrorist organisation on the logic that he must have known his flatmates were terrorists because he paid their rent and tuition fees which the courts found was to likely keep their cover as students in Germany up.

Keep in mind his flat mates were the actual terrorists that died in 9/11…so it can’t have been them giving evidence years later kwim?

It is too bad the ceasefire protest at the new WTC in NYC was overshadowed by the protest simultaneously held in Times Square:

“The march took place simultaneously as thousands of older Jewish pro-Palestinian protesters — wearing all-black apparel and marching to a drumbeat — silently laid to rest 500 effigies of dead children in the middle of Times Square to mourn the scores of Gazan and Israeli children killed after Hamas attacked Israel.
About 1,500 people marched in a dual-file processional funeral line from Bryant Park before placing the bundles on the pavement in a solemn call for a cease-fire and an end to US military aid to Israel.
The lament was initiated by a group of Jewish elders to call “attention to the dire, incalculable human reality of the siege of Gaza by the Israeli military supported by the United States,” according to organizers.”

Think you are maybe over thinking what I said. He was still alive therefore tried. Hence I said survivor because I have no idea what exactly his part was other than he went to court and a study mate plus 2 other flat mates or house mates or room mates or whatever said these things are what he said. Yes I do realise he was not someone with a lead role in the attack. Not totally sure why you home in on these details of my post but there you have it. I just said the facts that I am aware of were heard in court. All of which is true and did I think my post made it clear I was repeating what was said by the witnesses against him in court. So hope that is satisfactory to you.

Not sure you quite got the point of the original post and why I mentioned these things but hokey dokey.